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Old May 15th 04, 12:42 AM
Jan G
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Hey, dirty little secret here. I love to iron. Ironing, to me, is
theraputic no brain work. Especially using lavander or rosemary mint water
on the clothes. In fact, I have a whole pile of therapy waiting in the
other room.
Now cleaning, OTOH........................
Jan

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"Jalynne" wrote in message
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Then there's me, who really enjoys cleaning, just not the mess monsters

that come
along after I'm done....sigh.
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"Kathy N-V" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 12:36:45 -0400, Diana Curtis wrote
(in message ):

Are you really sorry to have to give up
housekeeping?

Oh yes. Heartbroken. I live to clean.

Kathy N-V

(my fingers are going to drop off for writing such lies.)







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Old May 15th 04, 12:42 AM
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Then there's me, who really enjoys cleaning, j

Jalynne? Me too, darlin. I'm going over to Carol's other house tonight in
search of something to clean, LOL. (this place is spotless).


Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling
difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows
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Old May 15th 04, 12:43 AM
Jan G
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Kathy, great news! What do you think helped the most? The meds?
JanG
"Helen Page" wrote in message
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Kathy N-V wrote:
For the first time in I don't know how long, I'm not about to cry
with pain. It's still there, a little, but the pain has reduced
enough for me to force it out of my consciousness. For me, this is
*huge.*

snip

WHEEEEEEEEEEEE! Yay! Really pleased for you!

And no, there are no miraculous cures that will enable me to do
housework. Ever.


Oh dear.




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Old May 15th 04, 12:54 AM
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Hey, dirty little secret here. I love to iron. Ironing, to me, is
theraputic no brain work. Especially using lavander or rosemary mint water
on the clothes. In fact, I have a whole pile of therapy waiting in the
other room.
Now cleaning, OTOH........................
Jan


When I used to indulge in recreational meds, long long ago, I used to iron my
little heart out. I'd go to my friend's house and iron everything that wasn't
nailed down. She loved it.
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Old May 15th 04, 01:48 AM
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Kathy! That is wonderful news. You and Sooz both getting better? I'm
actually crying for you both!

"Kathy N-V" wrote in message
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For the first time in I don't know how long, I'm not about to cry with

pain.
It's still there, a little, but the pain has reduced enough for me to

force
it out of my consciousness. For me, this is *huge.*

I went to YA doc yesterday, and he gave me some muscle relaxants. I had
taken Flexoril in the past, and reported that it had done nothing for the
pain, but just made me so stoned I didn't care. He gave me a newer

medicine,
Robaxin, which is supposed to make you less dopey, and is having me boost

it
with Ultram and Vioxx. (A pain med and an anti-arthritis drug)

I'm drowsy, to be sure, but I hope that will pass. But to be in such a

small
amount of pain that I can think about other things first is so amazing.

It's
only a short term solution, until I go see the surgeon in a month. Feh.

I'm
probably not going to get away without another operation, but I'll fight

to
keep it as low-key as possible, and not the drastic spinal

fusion/Harrington
rod nightmare I've been hearing about.

Now, I just have to remind myself that the bad stuff that hurts is still
there, and I shouldn't go overboard just because the pain is lessened for
now. I realized that I hadn't been miraculously cured overnight when I

tried
to play ball with Sophie this morning. And no, there are no miraculous

cures
that will enable me to do housework. Ever.

Kathy N-V



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Old May 15th 04, 02:42 AM
Debbie B
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Kathy,
We sound the same. I'm not on the heavy duty stuff yet, but it feels as if
it's coming. The weight sucks too. I eat veggies and good stuff, but I'm
still 100 lbs overweight. I was walking with my husband and fell against a
display, he asked what was wrong with me. I just looked at him and said
what? This is what is happening. He said I look drunk. LOL I wish. I
would love to tie one on right now. Then maybe I could walk and laugh more.
grinning Right after that my hip went oops and I almost fell again. He
didn't know it had gotten that bad cause I hide it from him.

It's so frustrating. The exhaustion is the worse. I was able to stay
upright and bead last nite for a few hours, even made sense of a couple of
new stitches. Today I can barely move. I feel I have the weight of another
person on my body. I've taken several naps and haven't even taken any meds
for the pain. lol

I'm looking forward to my sunny day soon.

Hugs,
--
Debbie (New Mexico)
Life is too short
"Kathy N-V" wrote in message
.com...
On Fri, 14 May 2004 19:43:24 -0400, Jan G wrote
(in message . net):


Kathy, great news! What do you think helped the most? The meds?


A combination of things - meds, PT, a little weight loss and lots of

powerful
vibes from the people here on RCB.

Amazingly, I wrote this last week, when I think I hit my lowest point:

-----------------------
The reality of my life is that I often have to crawl to get upstairs, and

pay
for even the slightest exertion with days of pain. Or, I can take the
painkillers and be zoned out, those are my choices. I've gotten a lot
tougher - pain that would have made me cry years ago barely registers in

my
consciousness these days. I spent a day with [a friend] a couple of weeks

ago
- and spent five days in bed afterward, because I couldn't even walk to th

e
other end of the house without help.

It infuriates me to have people who have no idea what it's like to live in

my
skin tell me that I need to lose weight. Think I don't know that? Think

I
don't cringe when I see myself in the mirror and compare it to the person

I
used to be? What magic wand can I wave to make it possible for me to walk

up
the thirteen steps to my house? Forget running a marathon - I'd like to be

to
sit through one of DD's school presentations. Once I gain that much
progress, I'll worry about losing weight, okay?
----------------------------

That was in response to someone telling me that I "need to get active and
take off those pounds. Just stop eating so damn much."

She didn't get it. I've been on heavy duty steroids for more than 20

years,
and am 100 lbs. heavier than my pre-steroid weight. I used to eat

everything
in sight back then, and never gained an ounce. Now, I eat one meal a day,
because the pain makes me nauseated most of the time. If I stop the

steroids,
I die - period.

Not too many choices there - I'll walk through burning coals to be there
while my daughter grows up. I suspect that DD thinks that having a fat

mother
is way better than having a dead one. Being there for my family is my sole
motivation.

I'm a little sore tonight - I had to test my new meds by driving a couple

of
miles, because Bob is out of town. But I've been able to skip the Vicodin
for three days, and that's wonderful. Even if it doesn't last, this

respite
has been wonderful. It's like a beautiful sunny day after a long, long
winter.

Kathy N-V



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Old May 15th 04, 03:35 AM
starlia
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Your lowest day really hit a nerve with me Kathy. I just found out I have
gained 25 pounds over the last few months and I was already heavy. Some
folks just don't get that we would really rather being doing normal stuff.
I can do some things when I feel good and I'm thankful for that. Then there
are those days when I can't even move.

I was so low today after finding out I gained that much weight. I've never
weighed this much, not even when I was pregnant. So I'm going to be
grateful that I can do things that not everyone can. I'm going to be happy
that I'm alive and I can work at the torch.

Thanks Kathy and you are an amazing woman. ---- Starlia who is taking
Vicodin today.
"Kathy N-V" wrote in message
.com...
On Fri, 14 May 2004 19:43:24 -0400, Jan G wrote
(in message . net):


Kathy, great news! What do you think helped the most? The meds?


A combination of things - meds, PT, a little weight loss and lots of

powerful
vibes from the people here on RCB.

Amazingly, I wrote this last week, when I think I hit my lowest point:

-----------------------
The reality of my life is that I often have to crawl to get upstairs, and

pay
for even the slightest exertion with days of pain. Or, I can take the
painkillers and be zoned out, those are my choices. I've gotten a lot
tougher - pain that would have made me cry years ago barely registers in

my
consciousness these days. I spent a day with [a friend] a couple of weeks

ago
- and spent five days in bed afterward, because I couldn't even walk to

the
other end of the house without help.

It infuriates me to have people who have no idea what it's like to live in

my
skin tell me that I need to lose weight. Think I don't know that? Think

I
don't cringe when I see myself in the mirror and compare it to the person

I
used to be? What magic wand can I wave to make it possible for me to walk

up
the thirteen steps to my house? Forget running a marathon - I'd like to be

to
sit through one of DD's school presentations. Once I gain that much
progress, I'll worry about losing weight, okay?
----------------------------

That was in response to someone telling me that I "need to get active and
take off those pounds. Just stop eating so damn much."

She didn't get it. I've been on heavy duty steroids for more than 20

years,
and am 100 lbs. heavier than my pre-steroid weight. I used to eat

everything
in sight back then, and never gained an ounce. Now, I eat one meal a day,
because the pain makes me nauseated most of the time. If I stop the

steroids,
I die - period.

Not too many choices there - I'll walk through burning coals to be there
while my daughter grows up. I suspect that DD thinks that having a fat

mother
is way better than having a dead one. Being there for my family is my sole
motivation.

I'm a little sore tonight - I had to test my new meds by driving a couple

of
miles, because Bob is out of town. But I've been able to skip the Vicodin
for three days, and that's wonderful. Even if it doesn't last, this

respite
has been wonderful. It's like a beautiful sunny day after a long, long
winter.

Kathy N-V



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Old May 15th 04, 04:00 AM
KDK
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Well ya know - iffen y'all really *need* to do it, I'll gladly sacrifice my
house for your, um "addiction"

Kathy K
"BeckiBead" wrote in message
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Then there's me, who really enjoys cleaning, j


Jalynne? Me too, darlin. I'm going over to Carol's other house tonight

in
search of something to clean, LOL. (this place is spotless).


Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the

crumbling
difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows



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Old May 15th 04, 04:48 AM
BeckiBead
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LOL. Kathy -- I'll keep that in mind.


Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling
difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows
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Old May 15th 04, 08:23 PM
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Debbie, avoiding meds for the pain isn't therapeutic. Trust me, I know.

~ Enduring pain as a virtue is a myth. It's very bad for your body, and your
health. It creates more stress, which in turn creates worse health.

~ If you put up with pain, feeling it instead of masking it, you can end up
with fibromyalgia or other neurological problems. It's pointless to suffer,
unless you want to get sicker. It's better for you, long term and short term,
to be a bit woozy than in pain.

~ If you don't take the meds at the first onset of the pain, it doesn't work
very well. You should take them at the first hint.

Being "tough" about one's pain is not wise. It's a myth perpetuated for years
and years, based on this country's Puritan founders' views. And those people
were crazy! Do you really want to do that? Be crazy?

Plus, people in pain are very hard on the ones who love them. If you won't do
it for yourself, do it for those around you.

maybe I could walk and laugh more.

~~snipped~~
haven't even taken any meds
for the pain. lol



~~
Sooz
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"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html
 




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