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New Newsgroup
Please forgive the X-post, but trying to get this new newsgroup
working. It's not that I don't like your newsgroup, actually its very interesting. I just think there oughta be an unmoderated one as well. It's just the rebel/anarchist in me. Thanx! Frosty SilverMan -- Real debate; No bull****. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hale_Bobb/ & http://halebobb.com |
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Frosty wrote:
Please forgive the X-post, but trying to get this new newsgroup working. It's not that I don't like your newsgroup, actually its very interesting. I just think there oughta be an unmoderated one as well. It's just the rebel/anarchist in me. Thanx! Frosty SilverMan -- Real debate; No bull****. That must be a typo, I'm sure you meant to say Real bull****; No debate. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On or about Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:54:57 GMT, an entity identified as
Abrasha proudly proclaimed: Frosty wrote: Please forgive the X-post, but trying to get this new newsgroup working. It's not that I don't like your newsgroup, actually its very interesting. I just think there oughta be an unmoderated one as well. It's just the rebel/anarchist in me. Thanx! Frosty SilverMan -- Real debate; No bull****. That must be a typo, I'm sure you meant to say Real bull****; No debate. You are correct. Lately there has been a lot of bull**** and very little debate. Maybe some of you smart guys will join and tell us all how wrong we are. :-) -- Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes! |
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Frosty wrote:
On or about Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:54:57 GMT, an entity identified as Abrasha proudly proclaimed: Frosty wrote: Please forgive the X-post, but trying to get this new newsgroup working. It's not that I don't like your newsgroup, actually its very interesting. I just think there oughta be an unmoderated one as well. It's just the rebel/anarchist in me. Thanx! Frosty SilverMan -- Real debate; No bull****. That must be a typo, I'm sure you meant to say Real bull****; No debate. You are correct. Lately there has been a lot of bull**** and very little debate. Maybe some of you smart guys will join and tell us all how wrong we are. :-) Who is this us? I though you were trying to get a NEW newsgroup going. The way I see it, there is no "us". There isn't even a newsgroup for "us" to go to. You are like the stranger who walks into a bar and tells all the regularsto come to the bar he knows on the other side of town, one that nobody else knows about, with the promise that it might be better there. Sorry to break it to you pal, we're just not interested. The beer and the company are just fine here. Why don't you just go and start your new unmoderated newsgroup and see what happens. I think that basically with what this ng, Orchid and r.c.m has to offer, we're just not going to be very interested over at your place. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:18:02 GMT, Frosty wrote:
Please forgive the X-post, but trying to get this new newsgroup working. It's not that I don't like your newsgroup, actually its very interesting. I just think there oughta be an unmoderated one as well. It's just the rebel/anarchist in me. Thanx! Frosty SilverMan -- Real debate; No bull****. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hale_Bobb/ That's not a newsgroup. That's a web board run by Yahoo. -- Marilee J. Layman http://mjlayman.livejournal.com/ |
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:54:42 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry "Marilee J. Layman"
wrote: On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:18:02 GMT, Frosty wrote: Please forgive the X-post, but trying to get this new newsgroup working. It's not that I don't like your newsgroup, actually its very interesting. I just think there oughta be an unmoderated one as well. It's just the rebel/anarchist in me. Thanx! Frosty SilverMan -- Real debate; No bull****. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hale_Bobb/ That's not a newsgroup. That's a web board run by Yahoo. Yes, and that board's mention is merely part of his sig file. I think what he's referring to was the other newsgroup to which the post was, as suggested by his first sentence, cross posted to, alt.rec.crafts.jewelry. I haven't checked to see whether there is in fact such a group, and wonder what steps the poster has taken to get one established. Alt groups are easierto get started than groups in the big eight hierarchies, but it takes certain formal steps to do. And then, presumably, one needs people to take advantage ofit in order for it to amount to anything useful. In the case of this alt group, if it becomes established and known, it might be useful, or might suffer the fate this group seemed headed for when users voted to have it converted into a moderated group back in '97, and that was an ever increasing flood of advertising. Back then, ebay wasn't what it is now, and I'll bet if this alt group does indeed get established, it will quickly become little more than an advertising board for ebay ads. or maybe not. perhaps I'm being too much of a cynic. cheers Peter |
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On or about Sat, 03 Jun 2006 01:03:11 GMT, an entity identified as
"Peter W.. Rowe," proudly proclaimed: On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:54:42 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry "Marilee J. Layman" wrote: On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:18:02 GMT, Frosty wrote: Please forgive the X-post, but trying to get this new newsgroup working. It's not that I don't like your newsgroup, actually its very interesting. I just think there oughta be an unmoderated one as well. It's just the rebel/anarchist in me. Thanx! Frosty SilverMan -- Real debate; No bull****. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hale_Bobb/ That's not a newsgroup. That's a web board run by Yahoo. Yes, and that board's mention is merely part of his sig file. I think what he's referring to was the other newsgroup to which the post was, as suggestedby his first sentence, cross posted to, alt.rec.crafts.jewelry. True. I haven't checked to see whether there is in fact such a group, and wonder what steps the poster has taken to get one established. Alt groups are easier to get started than groups in the big eight hierarchies, but it takes certain formal steps to do. And then, presumably, one needs people to take advantage of it in order for it to amount to anything useful. I sent a "control post" as one must to create a newsgroup. In the case of this alt group, if it becomes established and known, it might be useful, or might suffer the fate this group seemed headed for when usersvoted to have it converted into a moderated group back in '97, and that was anever increasing flood of advertising. Back then, ebay wasn't what it is now,and I'll bet if this alt group does indeed get established, it will quickly become little more than an advertising board for ebay ads. or maybe not. perhaps I'm being too much of a cynic. No, you're probably correct. It's be a place with lots of spam. Such is the nature of the alt.hierachy. But that's what ~*PLONK*~ filters are for. cheers Peter SilverMan -- Real debate; No bull****.(OK, well maybe a little.) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hale_Bobb/ & http://halebobb.com |
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:23:44 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Frosty
wrote: I sent a "control post" as one must to create a newsgroup. While in theory, this is all that's needed to create an Alt newsgroup, now your task is to convince news administrators to carry it on their servers. That's the hard part. You may need to send that control message several times. And it will help (perhaps a lot, from what I've read) to also propose/defend/justify the proposed new group on alt.config (I think that's the one. do some homework to be sure...) Also, if you can find public news servers (not just your own, if you have one) who have picked it up, be sure messages to that group get posted there. it will help in convincing other news admins that there is indeed traffic, and therefor some reason to get off their butts and add the group. Although no formal vote or similar structured creation process is needed in the Alt heirarchy, you still have to jump through the human loops of getting news admins, often overworked and sometimes underskilled people, to get on board. It's not as automatic as one might wish. You are aware, I'm sure, that there are already a few somewhat related groups, such as pdaxs.ads.jewelry, alt.diamonds and alt.diamonds.marketplace, alt.folklore.gemstones, free.uk.jewelry, and perhaps others I'm not awareof, for which jewelry related postings are on topic. And of course, though it's not jewelry specific, there's also both the big eight version and the alt version of rec.crafts.metalworking, one of the busier and more useful newsgroups outthere (well worth your time, folks, if you've not found it before. Someone even set up a web site for it. Lots of home shop machinists, but also many more skill sets to be found there...) peter |
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:34:09 GMT, "Peter W.. Rowe,"
wrote: You are aware, I'm sure, that there are already a few somewhat related groups, such as pdaxs.ads.jewelry I know lots of people post there anyway, but pdaxs is a local Portland Oregon group. -- Marilee J. Layman http://mjlayman.livejournal.com/ |
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