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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 09:48:48 +0100, "Roberta Zollner" wrote:

Just read one of those "interesting" articles, may have been Time, about
jumping spiders in Kenya. (No webs, they stalk and leap on their prey.)
Apparently there's one species that lives inside people's houses and its
preferred prey is female mosquitoes that have just had a blood meal. :-p
Roberta in D

Shudder! Glad I don't live in Kenya!
Debra in VA
See my quilts at
http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 07:42:18 -0500, Bonnie Patterson
wrote:

I've used a product called "Bug 'n Sun", it's made for children, with
no ill effects.

I usually use sun block called "NO-AD", it doesn't have any scent that
I can smell. I put it on about a half hour before I leave the house. I
spray "OFF Skintastic" on my hair, clothing, and exposed skin just
before I go out into the yard, all with no ill effects.

Maybe I'm just lucky.

I do have pale skin that will burn and I attract all biting insects
and they in turn call all of their buddies and tell them that lunch
has arrived!

Bonnie, in Middletown, VA

Oh, Bonnie, you poor dear. I know what it's like to be the most
munchable person to the bugs in an outdoor crowd. I was the same way
until I read about the B vitamins. I figured it couldn't hurt me and
was worth a try, and it worked for me. I did buy bug repellant that
year, just in case I needed it, but never used it.

I'll have to look for the No-Ad next spring. I've never heard of it
or the Bug-n-Sun.
Debra in VA
See my quilts at
http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere

I get "NO-AD" at Wal-Mart, have also seen it at Rite Aid. It comes in
a 16 ounce plastic bottle.

Bonnie, in Middletown, VA

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:08:45 GMT, Debra
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 07:42:18 -0500, Bonnie Patterson
wrote:

I've used a product called "Bug 'n Sun", it's made for children, with
no ill effects.

I usually use sun block called "NO-AD", it doesn't have any scent that
I can smell. I put it on about a half hour before I leave the house. I
spray "OFF Skintastic" on my hair, clothing, and exposed skin just
before I go out into the yard, all with no ill effects.

Maybe I'm just lucky.

I do have pale skin that will burn and I attract all biting insects
and they in turn call all of their buddies and tell them that lunch
has arrived!

Bonnie, in Middletown, VA

Oh, Bonnie, you poor dear. I know what it's like to be the most
munchable person to the bugs in an outdoor crowd. I was the same way
until I read about the B vitamins. I figured it couldn't hurt me and
was worth a try, and it worked for me. I did buy bug repellant that
year, just in case I needed it, but never used it.

I'll have to look for the No-Ad next spring. I've never heard of it
or the Bug-n-Sun.
Debra in VA
See my quilts at
http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:16:00 -0500, Bonnie Patterson
wrote:

I get "NO-AD" at Wal-Mart, have also seen it at Rite Aid. It comes in
a 16 ounce plastic bottle.

Bonnie, in Middletown, VA

No wonder I haven't seen it. I have to drive 35 miles to a Walmart
and I usually find something useable locally because I suddenly
realize I don't have sunblock and I have to mow the yard.
Debra in VA
See my quilts at
http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere

And what are we outdoorsy Texas supposed to do?! DEET is the only thing
that keeps skeeters off me, and if I *don't* wear sunscreen, I get an
itchy sun rash that lasts for weeks and is as bad as poison ivy. You
can always find me in the field--I'm the one with the long pants, long
sleeves, and a big hat.

I did try the all-in-one lotion once. It worked neither as a sunscreen
nor as an insect repellent. Waste of money, at least for me.

Monique in TX

I decided to double check this. FWIW, the Center for Disease Control
seems to disagree with this. There is a FAQ on insect repellents at:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/west..._repellent.htm
If you scroll down a bit there is the following:

"Q. Can I use an insect repellent and a product containing sunscreen at
the same time? What are the recomendations for combination
sunscreen/insect repellent products ?

A. Yes. People can, and should, use both a sunscreen and an insect
repellent when they are outdoors. Follow the instructions on the package
for proper application of each product. In general, the recommendation
is to apply sunscreen first, followed by repellent.
It is recommended NOT to use a single product that combines insect
repellent containing DEET and sunscreen, because the instructions for
use of insect repellents and use of sunscreen are different. In most
situations, insect repellent does not need to be reapplied as frequently
as sunscreen. While no recommendations are available at this time
regarding products that combine other active ingredients and sunscreen,
it is important to always follow the label on whatever product you are
using.
To protect from sun exposure and insect bites, you can also wear long
sleeves and long pants. You can also apply insect repellent to your
clothing, rather than directly to your skin. "

Personally, I think I'll use both if needed....
Allison

Polly Esther wrote:
I know I have a heap more time to read things than most of you busy people
do. You need to know this -
Our newspaper's Dr. Gott today says that applying sunscreen *and* bug
repellant is dangerous. The results can be: toxicity, rash, low blood
pressure, dizziness, headaches, disorientation and brain damage. Now we
know what's wrong with me.
You don't have to reply and you don't have to try it just to see if he's
right or not. Just please file it away in your insufficient memory. Polly

always good to go to a reputable scientific source NAYY (well, kind of) )

Allison wrote:

I decided to double check this. FWIW, the Center for Disease Control
seems to disagree with this. There is a FAQ on insect repellents at:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/west..._repellent.htm
If you scroll down a bit there is the following:

"Q. Can I use an insect repellent and a product containing sunscreen at
the same time? What are the recomendations for combination
sunscreen/insect repellent products ?

A. Yes. People can, and should, use both a sunscreen and an insect
repellent when they are outdoors. Follow the instructions on the package
for proper application of each product. In general, the recommendation
is to apply sunscreen first, followed by repellent.
It is recommended NOT to use a single product that combines insect
repellent containing DEET and sunscreen, because the instructions for
use of insect repellents and use of sunscreen are different. In most
situations, insect repellent does not need to be reapplied as frequently
as sunscreen. While no recommendations are available at this time
regarding products that combine other active ingredients and sunscreen,
it is important to always follow the label on whatever product you are
using.
To protect from sun exposure and insect bites, you can also wear long
sleeves and long pants. You can also apply insect repellent to your
clothing, rather than directly to your skin. "

Personally, I think I'll use both if needed....
Allison

Polly Esther wrote:

I know I have a heap more time to read things than most of you busy
people do. You need to know this -
Our newspaper's Dr. Gott today says that applying sunscreen
*and* bug repellant is dangerous. The results can be: toxicity,
rash, low blood pressure, dizziness, headaches, disorientation and
brain damage. Now we know what's wrong with me.
You don't have to reply and you don't have to try it just to see
if he's right or not. Just please file it away in your insufficient
memory. Polly



--
Dr. Quilter
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out for a walk)

Thank you, Allison. How very interesting. I'm glad you took the time to
root around and get us some further thoughts. I suspect we'll never be
able to resolve the different opinions of the gov't and the meds. When I
just must, I apply the DEET to my clothing - in the hope that it won't gang
up with my sunscreen and cause brain damage. Not enough left to trifle
with. Polly

Allison wroteI decided to double check this. FWIW, the Center for Disease
Control
seems to disagree with this. There is a FAQ on insect repellents at:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/west..._repellent.htm
If you scroll down a bit there is the following:

"Q. Can I use an insect repellent and a product containing sunscreen at
the same time? What are the recomendations for combination
sunscreen/insect repellent products ?

A. Yes. People can, and should, use both a sunscreen and an insect
repellent when they are outdoors. Follow the instructions on the package
for proper application of each product. In general, the recommendation is
to apply sunscreen first, followed by repellent.
It is recommended NOT to use a single product that combines insect
repellent containing DEET and sunscreen, because the instructions for use
of insect repellents and use of sunscreen are different. In most
situations, insect repellent does not need to be reapplied as frequently
as sunscreen. While no recommendations are available at this time
regarding products that combine other active ingredients and sunscreen, it
is important to always follow the label on whatever product you are using.
To protect from sun exposure and insect bites, you can also wear long
sleeves and long pants. You can also apply insect repellent to your
clothing, rather than directly to your skin. "

Personally, I think I'll use both if needed....
Allison