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Mirjam - how are you?
On 12/31/08 6:37 PM, "Pat P" wrote:
wrote in message ... Lucretia http://www.honestreporting.com/a/15seconds.asp I haven`t seen you ever protest the Ongoing Rockets Shooting at civilians , children , hospitals etc on our side of the border , http://www.honestreporting.com/a/15seconds.asp Look at this and ask yourself How long YOU would have waited to stop it , Please notice that the Egyptian Government and the Palestinian President told the Hamas that they are to be balmaed because they were warned warned and warned to stop sending rockets over Israel , mirjam On the other hand, what shocks most of us is the totally OTT response by Israel. If two or three people in a town anywhere in the world get killed the normal reaction isn`t to go and kill more than 300 indiscriminately! All that`s going to do is produce even more terrorism and suicide bombings all over the world (Like we had recently in Mumbai). Pat OTOH, most people in the world don't have such a huge set of groups set on annihilating them. I think that sadly, minimal responses have proven to be insignificant in effectiveness. Ellice |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On 12/31/08 9:00 PM, " wrote:
On Dec 31, 4:48*pm, Walker Family wrote: No, not exactly. *I don't expect adults to go from zero to hateful at the first sentence. * *Everyone has strong opinions in my family and we peacefully coexist without resorting to harsh words and bent feelings. *Moni I, on the other hand, was raised in a family where people did and do go from zero to hateful in no time, so, while I don't like it, I do usually expect it. I sometimes do it, because it's habit, although I have been trying to curb that. Hey - do you know my SILs? Ellice |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Dec 31 2008, 11:14*pm, Jangchub wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:00:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 31, 4:48*pm, Walker Family wrote: No, not exactly. *I don't expect adults to go from zero to hateful at the first sentence. * *Everyone has strong opinions in my family and we peacefully coexist without resorting to harsh words and bent feelings. *Moni I, on the other hand, was raised in a family where people did and do go from zero to hateful in no time, so, while I don't like it, I do usually expect it. *I sometimes do it, because it's habit, although I have been trying to curb that. I don't think it's from zero to hate. *I think many times it is zero to annoyed or ****ed off. *Hate is a very strong emotion and certainly not one I experience with people I've only had cyber connections with. Victoria Hate and hateful are not the same thing. Hateful just means someone is being nasty. It doesn't mean they hate you, at least that's not how I've ever understood it. Elizabeth |
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Mirjam - how are you?
Back to the original subject - Moni posted a controversial post instead of using email if her concern was genuine. She stated that she was only getting 'two, three minute news bytes' so I furnished her with a link that covered more. Then that was wrong because I politely included a tiny url in case her reader couldn't cover the longer link. So perhaps her rude response is the 'hateful' ? I think it is all out of sorts for no real reason. I posted here because several groups mentioned having Mirjams emails bounce. I expressed concern for someone having issues in her country, which I would do if Australia, Canada, etc. had problems and one of our members was in country. A link is always fine but it sounded like you were putting me down as I had never, ever heard of problems following a link of any length. I corrected this impression later. Nothing hateful, filled with hate or anything else. I'm a gentle, friendly, positive, glass half full and getting fuller type of person. I'm sorry my simple message of concern for a person in our group caused such issues. Moni |
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Mirjam - how are you?
"Walker Family" wrote in message ... Back to the original subject - Moni posted a controversial post instead of using email if her concern was genuine. She stated that she was only getting 'two, three minute news bytes' so I furnished her with a link that covered more. Then that was wrong because I politely included a tiny url in case her reader couldn't cover the longer link. So perhaps her rude response is the 'hateful' ? I think it is all out of sorts for no real reason. I posted here because several groups mentioned having Mirjams emails bounce. I expressed concern for someone having issues in her country, which I would do if Australia, Canada, etc. had problems and one of our members was in country. A link is always fine but it sounded like you were putting me down as I had never, ever heard of problems following a link of any length. I corrected this impression later. Nothing hateful, filled with hate or anything else. I'm a gentle, friendly, positive, glass half full and getting fuller type of person. I'm sorry my simple message of concern for a person in our group caused such issues. Moni Don`t worry, Moni - we all get our knickers in a twist from time to time on here. I normally forget it after a day or two (some hang onto it for months - even years, but then you come across folk that do that in "real life"). I think that half the trouble is that your fingers tend to type out what`s going through your mind at the time and, hey presto, you`ve hit the "send" button. In real life you`d probably censor it a bit. (That`s a general "you", not a personal "you", by the way!). Pat |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 1, 8:51*am, ellice wrote:
On 12/31/08 6:37 PM, *"Pat P" wrote: wrote in message .... Lucretia http://www.honestreporting.com/a/15seconds.asp I haven`t seen you ever protest the Ongoing Rockets Shooting at civilians , children , hospitals etc on our side of the border , http://www.honestreporting.com/a/15seconds.asp Look at this and ask yourself How long YOU would have waited to stop it , Please notice that the Egyptian Government and the Palestinian President told the Hamas that they are to be balmaed because they were warned warned and warned to stop sending rockets over Israel , mirjam On the other hand, what shocks most of us is the totally OTT response by Israel. *If two or three people in a town *anywhere in the world get killed the normal reaction isn`t to go and kill more than 300 indiscriminately! All that`s going to do is produce even more terrorism and suicide bombings all over the world (Like we had recently in Mumbai). Pat OTOH, most people in the world don't have such a huge set of groups set on annihilating them. *I think that sadly, minimal responses have proven to be insignificant in effectiveness. And the overwhelming responses have somehow been more effective? I don't think so: they haven't stopped the attacks and they've ruined Israel's reputation among many who would otherwise have been supporters. Elizabeth |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 1, 10:54*pm, wrote:
On Jan 1, 8:51*am, ellice wrote: On 12/31/08 6:37 PM, *"Pat P" wrote: wrote in message .... AS if you ever had a GOOD opinion about Israel , Never ONCE did i see you have a good word for the many people who suffered in Isreal under Terrorist attacks ,, But i DO REMEMBER after 9/11 , how many of you almost 50 personal Emails from Readers , both active and Lurkers from this NG alone] asked me , how to deal with Terror in one`s own country? , how to explain it to children , Than when Usa entered Iraq , how many of you were rude about the Iraquies , how many Here wrote that one must Nuke the Afghanis , Nuke the Iraquis etc,,,, There comes a point in a Person`s life , or a nation`s life , when they have to put a stop to be harrased , trrorized etc, 3 years ago Azza was given to the Palestinian Authority , Hot houses were left intact , so argriculture could be used to provide local vegetables in modern systems , + exporting to Europe. Factories were already built on the International Border , so that people from both side could work together , Loads of money was poured in . Palestinians fought amongst themselves , Hot houses were Ruined , Factories that provided work to Azza people were bombed by Palestian Hamas , several times . Suicide bombers were entering Israel Hence Border checkpoints were a must . { Isn`t USA checking people who Enter it`s borders ????, Don`t people who enter USA go through a security check , need a visa , Is USA allowed to stop certain people from entering it`s border ? The hard truth is that To You Elizabeth , it is ok as long as a Jew gets killed , but a jew deffending himself is to you unthinkable ,, mirjam |
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Mirjam - how are you?
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 3, 1:32*am, wrote:
AS if you ever had a GOOD opinion about Israel , Never ONCE did i see you have a good word for the many people who suffered in Isreal under Terrorist attacks ,, It may come as a shock to you, Mirjam, but I did not spring fully formed to life on this newsgroup. I have had many opinions in my life that were not expressed here. My good opinion of Israel ended with the attacks on the camps at Shabra and Shatilla, but I did have one before that point. The hard truth is that To You Elizabeth , it is ok as long as a Jew gets killed , but a jew deffending himself is to you unthinkable ,, Mirjam, that is unkind and untrue. And that from a woman who claims that she is never unkind. Once again, you show yourself for the liar you are. Elizabeth |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 3, 9:30*am, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)"
wrote: wrote: On Jan 1, 10:54 pm, wrote: On Jan 1, 8:51 am, ellice wrote: On 12/31/08 6:37 PM, *"Pat P" wrote: wrote in message ... AS if you ever had a GOOD opinion about Israel , Never ONCE did i see you have a good word for the many people who suffered in Isreal under Terrorist attacks ,, snipped Mirjam, When you respond to someone please quote the message (or at least a part of the message) to which you are referring, otherwise it makes following the discussion very difficult. -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney UK http://claremont.island-blogging.co.uk Bruce here is the part i responded to ,,, Elizabeth `s eye rolling to heaven that ..about those...many who ..other wise would have been our suporters ,, we saw their support over those long years of Missile shooting ,,, Interesting that Abu Mazen and the egyptian , and many moderate Arab Countries , CALL the Hamas what it is a TERROR Regime supported by IRAN ,,,, which Threatens Us DAILY ,,,,, mirjam And the overwhelming responses have somehow been more effective? I don't think so: they haven't stopped the attacks and they've ruined Israel's reputation among many who would otherwise have been supporters. |
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