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  #11  
Old August 23rd 04, 06:25 PM
Lisa Caryl
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Hey Di,
In no particular order, I have the following thoughts on why I come to the
ng each day......

I come to hear about what people are working on. I love it when people post
pictures of their work. I go look as time allows, and I should probably post
more responces to let those people know I like what I see

I like to see posts where people mention their own, personal expirience with
both new and old quilting products, be it thread, needles batting, whatever
is quilt related.

I also like that we have OT posts, and I read the ones that interest me,
skip the ones I'm not interested in.

I'm grateful that I don't have to wade through piles and piles of ads for
things I can easily get locally, or by using my best friend, Google ;-).

--
Lisa
http://www.picturetrails.com/quiltygurl

"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
I pay to learn how to quilt better. To get quilting advice. To get
inspiration and techinical advice about quilting. I also pay for the
friendship and fun chat.
So, what does everyone else come here for?
Diana

"Jan" wrote in message
link.net...
Maybe it's because it ISN'T a class.


"Diana Curtis" wrote in
:

Only you can decide if that is a reasonable interuption to your quilt
lesson. For me, trying to pay attention to the teachers, it would be
unwelcome. That might not be true for others.
Diana

"Jan" wrote in message
news But is it a person popping in to the classroom or a person sitting
around the frame answering a question asked? If it's quilting

related
and no prices mentioned or sales pitch made, perhaps it isn't an
interruption, but a nice addition to the conversation, another nugget

of
knowledge and a celebration waiting to happen.

What constitutes adverstising in my mind is a price or a specific
service pitched. Not just saying I do that.... because then all of

us
stay at home moms, or other crafters saying I do that.... are
advertising.

Jan

"Diana Curtis" wrote in
:

.
We all talk about this group as if it is a cyber quilting bee. It
isnt. It is a quilting lesson, ongoing and dynamic. They are

lessons
we each pay for. Some pay more, some pay less, but dang it, we all
pay to be here.
Picture having a quilting lesson at your local quilt store where
every so
often a person pops into the class room and advertises something,
interupting the lessons you paid for. You'd be right to be upset.

It
could be your best friend in the world, offering to quilt for you,

or
a total stranger offering a better way of living thru pills or what
have you. Its the same thing, an interuption.
But what about OT posts, you ask. Arent they an interruption as
well? Yes,
when we forget to mark them as being off topic, to the paying
subscriber to this group, they are, for some, an unwanted

interruption
of what they pay to come here for. Quilt lessons. When we do

remember
to use the OT in the header it is as if we have excused ourselves

to
the little room over there with the coffee urn and the nummy

desserts
where we wont be interupting the other quilters with our chatter.
We all have the right to be here. We have the right to a

newsgroup
that
the majority will find useful and fun. Along with those rights

comes a
serious responsibilty to police ourselves and our own posts. If we
decide as a group to allow people to post ads where do we draw the
line? Who gets to post ads and how many and how often is offensive?

Do
we get to pick on people who are obviously not regular posters? Who

is
going to police such a wishy washy policy?
Does it make more sense to make a blanket policy that

advertisments
are to
go to rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace? That is what it is for.
Rant mode over, back to quilting
Diana










Ads
  #12  
Old August 23rd 04, 06:58 PM
Bonnie
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So, what does everyone else come here for?
Diana



I guess I come here because I like to learn from others and
then share what I've learned through "hugs". I'm generally
not a joiner but this group allows me to participate in my
own way.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/


  #13  
Old August 23rd 04, 07:07 PM
Don/Gen
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WOW. Guess there are quilt police after all. Apparently you think you
speak for all of us. As for the advertising--occasionally someone steps up
and does it. You obviously have made no mistakes! The tone of this group
is taking a definite turn to turn against anyone who makes the slightest
mistake. When someone is looking for a particular fabric, etc. I guess we
shouldn't tell them where they might find it, since that would be considered
advertising for a particular shop
It's too bad you don't consider this a cyber quilting bee. This has been
talked about many times, that basically this is what it is. Guess you're
happy on your pedestal.
Gen


"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
.
We all talk about this group as if it is a cyber quilting bee. It isnt. It
is a quilting lesson, ongoing and dynamic. They are lessons we each pay

for.
Some pay more, some pay less, but dang it, we all pay to be here.
Picture having a quilting lesson at your local quilt store where every

so
often a person pops into the class room and advertises something,
interupting the lessons you paid for. You'd be right to be upset. It could
be your best friend in the world, offering to quilt for you, or a total
stranger offering a better way of living thru pills or what have you. Its
the same thing, an interuption.
But what about OT posts, you ask. Arent they an interruption as well?

Yes,
when we forget to mark them as being off topic, to the paying subscriber

to
this group, they are, for some, an unwanted interruption of what they pay

to
come here for. Quilt lessons. When we do remember to use the OT in the
header it is as if we have excused ourselves to the little room over there
with the coffee urn and the nummy desserts where we wont be interupting

the
other quilters with our chatter.
We all have the right to be here. We have the right to a newsgroup that
the majority will find useful and fun. Along with those rights comes a
serious responsibilty to police ourselves and our own posts. If we decide

as
a group to allow people to post ads where do we draw the line? Who gets to
post ads and how many and how often is offensive? Do we get to pick on
people who are obviously not regular posters? Who is going to police such

a
wishy washy policy?
Does it make more sense to make a blanket policy that advertisments are

to
go to rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace? That is what it is for.
Rant mode over, back to quilting
Diana




  #14  
Old August 23rd 04, 07:09 PM
Don/Gen
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So you're now the moderator of the group????????????
Gen


"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
so I
am asking us to each consider our posts in terms of the Quilt Lesson
analogy.
Diana



  #15  
Old August 23rd 04, 07:09 PM
Don/Gen
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Thank you.
Gen

"maryd" wrote in message
...
Marking this thread OT because it isn't about quilting IMO

I pay nothing to get to this NG. I pay for internet service and this NG

is
a minute part of that.

--
Mary
http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948
"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
I pay to learn how to quilt better. To get quilting advice. To get
inspiration and techinical advice about quilting. I also pay for the
friendship and fun chat.
So, what does everyone else come here for?
Diana

"Jan" wrote in message
link.net...
Maybe it's because it ISN'T a class.


"Diana Curtis" wrote in
:

Only you can decide if that is a reasonable interuption to your

quilt
lesson. For me, trying to pay attention to the teachers, it would be
unwelcome. That might not be true for others.
Diana

"Jan" wrote in message
news But is it a person popping in to the classroom or a person sitting
around the frame answering a question asked? If it's quilting
related
and no prices mentioned or sales pitch made, perhaps it isn't an
interruption, but a nice addition to the conversation, another

nugget
of
knowledge and a celebration waiting to happen.

What constitutes adverstising in my mind is a price or a specific
service pitched. Not just saying I do that.... because then all of
us
stay at home moms, or other crafters saying I do that.... are
advertising.

Jan

"Diana Curtis" wrote in
:

.
We all talk about this group as if it is a cyber quilting bee. It
isnt. It is a quilting lesson, ongoing and dynamic. They are
lessons
we each pay for. Some pay more, some pay less, but dang it, we

all
pay to be here.
Picture having a quilting lesson at your local quilt store

where
every so
often a person pops into the class room and advertises something,
interupting the lessons you paid for. You'd be right to be upset.
It
could be your best friend in the world, offering to quilt for

you,
or
a total stranger offering a better way of living thru pills or

what
have you. Its the same thing, an interuption.
But what about OT posts, you ask. Arent they an interruption as
well? Yes,
when we forget to mark them as being off topic, to the paying
subscriber to this group, they are, for some, an unwanted
interruption
of what they pay to come here for. Quilt lessons. When we do
remember
to use the OT in the header it is as if we have excused ourselves
to
the little room over there with the coffee urn and the nummy
desserts
where we wont be interupting the other quilters with our chatter.
We all have the right to be here. We have the right to a
newsgroup
that
the majority will find useful and fun. Along with those rights
comes a
serious responsibilty to police ourselves and our own posts. If

we
decide as a group to allow people to post ads where do we draw

the
line? Who gets to post ads and how many and how often is

offensive?
Do
we get to pick on people who are obviously not regular posters?

Who
is
going to police such a wishy washy policy?
Does it make more sense to make a blanket policy that
advertisments
are to
go to rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace? That is what it is for.
Rant mode over, back to quilting
Diana












  #16  
Old August 23rd 04, 07:19 PM
Diana Curtis
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Please read the post again. I am asking people to consider what they want
this group to be. I am not telling anyone they cannot post, or what they can
or cannot post. I am encouraging everyone who reads this group to consider
what is appropriate for OUR group. So, *you* are the moderator, so is
everyone who posts. You moderate your posts, they moderate theirs. Like
grownups policing themselves. I like how that works.
Diana

"Don/Gen" wrote in message
news
So you're now the moderator of the group????????????
Gen


"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
so I
am asking us to each consider our posts in terms of the Quilt Lesson
analogy.
Diana





  #17  
Old August 23rd 04, 07:23 PM
Diana Curtis
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If you would please point out where I picked on anyone I would love to see
it, and where did I tell anyone what they could post?
Diana

"Don/Gen" wrote in message
...
WOW. Guess there are quilt police after all. Apparently you think you
speak for all of us. As for the advertising--occasionally someone steps

up
and does it. You obviously have made no mistakes! The tone of this group
is taking a definite turn to turn against anyone who makes the slightest
mistake. When someone is looking for a particular fabric, etc. I guess we
shouldn't tell them where they might find it, since that would be

considered
advertising for a particular shop
It's too bad you don't consider this a cyber quilting bee. This has

been
talked about many times, that basically this is what it is. Guess you're
happy on your pedestal.
Gen


"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
.
We all talk about this group as if it is a cyber quilting bee. It isnt.

It
is a quilting lesson, ongoing and dynamic. They are lessons we each pay

for.
Some pay more, some pay less, but dang it, we all pay to be here.
Picture having a quilting lesson at your local quilt store where every

so
often a person pops into the class room and advertises something,
interupting the lessons you paid for. You'd be right to be upset. It

could
be your best friend in the world, offering to quilt for you, or a total
stranger offering a better way of living thru pills or what have you.

Its
the same thing, an interuption.
But what about OT posts, you ask. Arent they an interruption as well?

Yes,
when we forget to mark them as being off topic, to the paying subscriber

to
this group, they are, for some, an unwanted interruption of what they

pay
to
come here for. Quilt lessons. When we do remember to use the OT in the
header it is as if we have excused ourselves to the little room over

there
with the coffee urn and the nummy desserts where we wont be interupting

the
other quilters with our chatter.
We all have the right to be here. We have the right to a newsgroup

that
the majority will find useful and fun. Along with those rights comes a
serious responsibilty to police ourselves and our own posts. If we

decide
as
a group to allow people to post ads where do we draw the line? Who gets

to
post ads and how many and how often is offensive? Do we get to pick on
people who are obviously not regular posters? Who is going to police

such
a
wishy washy policy?
Does it make more sense to make a blanket policy that advertisments

are
to
go to rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace? That is what it is for.
Rant mode over, back to quilting
Diana






  #18  
Old August 23rd 04, 07:26 PM
Mardi
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I agree wholeheartedly about the OT concept. My pet peeve is when
people reply to an OT post and somehow remove the OT from it. Now it
is no longer an OT post. So, remember, when replying to an OT post,
don't remove the OT from the subject line.

Mardi

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:33:31 -0500, "Diana Curtis"
wrote:

.
We all talk about this group as if it is a cyber quilting bee. It isnt. It
is a quilting lesson, ongoing and dynamic. They are lessons we each pay for.
Some pay more, some pay less, but dang it, we all pay to be here.
Picture having a quilting lesson at your local quilt store where every so
often a person pops into the class room and advertises something,
interupting the lessons you paid for. You'd be right to be upset. It could
be your best friend in the world, offering to quilt for you, or a total
stranger offering a better way of living thru pills or what have you. Its
the same thing, an interuption.
But what about OT posts, you ask. Arent they an interruption as well? Yes,
when we forget to mark them as being off topic, to the paying subscriber to
this group, they are, for some, an unwanted interruption of what they pay to
come here for. Quilt lessons. When we do remember to use the OT in the
header it is as if we have excused ourselves to the little room over there
with the coffee urn and the nummy desserts where we wont be interupting the
other quilters with our chatter.
We all have the right to be here. We have the right to a newsgroup that
the majority will find useful and fun. Along with those rights comes a
serious responsibilty to police ourselves and our own posts. If we decide as
a group to allow people to post ads where do we draw the line? Who gets to
post ads and how many and how often is offensive? Do we get to pick on
people who are obviously not regular posters? Who is going to police such a
wishy washy policy?
Does it make more sense to make a blanket policy that advertisments are to
go to rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace? That is what it is for.
Rant mode over, back to quilting
Diana


Real e-mail address spelled out to prevent spam. kate at mardiweb dot com.
____________________

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Paint Shop Pro tutorials: http://www.mardiweb.com/web
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  #19  
Old August 23rd 04, 07:35 PM
Diana Curtis
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Some newsgroup reading programs strip off anything after an : on a reply.
Good reminder tho, to put it back in if your reader takes it out.
Diana

"Mardi" wrote in message
...
I agree wholeheartedly about the OT concept. My pet peeve is when
people reply to an OT post and somehow remove the OT from it. Now it
is no longer an OT post. So, remember, when replying to an OT post,
don't remove the OT from the subject line.

Mardi

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:33:31 -0500, "Diana Curtis"
wrote:

.
We all talk about this group as if it is a cyber quilting bee. It isnt.

It
is a quilting lesson, ongoing and dynamic. They are lessons we each pay

for.
Some pay more, some pay less, but dang it, we all pay to be here.
Picture having a quilting lesson at your local quilt store where every

so
often a person pops into the class room and advertises something,
interupting the lessons you paid for. You'd be right to be upset. It

could
be your best friend in the world, offering to quilt for you, or a total
stranger offering a better way of living thru pills or what have you. Its
the same thing, an interuption.
But what about OT posts, you ask. Arent they an interruption as well?

Yes,
when we forget to mark them as being off topic, to the paying subscriber

to
this group, they are, for some, an unwanted interruption of what they pay

to
come here for. Quilt lessons. When we do remember to use the OT in the
header it is as if we have excused ourselves to the little room over

there
with the coffee urn and the nummy desserts where we wont be interupting

the
other quilters with our chatter.
We all have the right to be here. We have the right to a newsgroup that
the majority will find useful and fun. Along with those rights comes a
serious responsibilty to police ourselves and our own posts. If we decide

as
a group to allow people to post ads where do we draw the line? Who gets

to
post ads and how many and how often is offensive? Do we get to pick on
people who are obviously not regular posters? Who is going to police such

a
wishy washy policy?
Does it make more sense to make a blanket policy that advertisments are

to
go to rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace? That is what it is for.
Rant mode over, back to quilting
Diana


Real e-mail address spelled out to prevent spam. kate at mardiweb dot

com.
____________________

My Quilting page: http://www.mardiweb.com/quilts/MardiQuilts.html
Paint Shop Pro tutorials: http://www.mardiweb.com/web
Low-Fat Lifestyle Forum: http://www.mardiweb.com/lowfat



  #20  
Old August 23rd 04, 07:37 PM
maryd
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As it did in this thread.

--
Mary
http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948
"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
Some newsgroup reading programs strip off anything after an : on a reply.
Good reminder tho, to put it back in if your reader takes it out.
Diana

"Mardi" wrote in message
...
I agree wholeheartedly about the OT concept. My pet peeve is when
people reply to an OT post and somehow remove the OT from it. Now it
is no longer an OT post. So, remember, when replying to an OT post,
don't remove the OT from the subject line.

Mardi

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:33:31 -0500, "Diana Curtis"
wrote:

.
We all talk about this group as if it is a cyber quilting bee. It isnt.

It
is a quilting lesson, ongoing and dynamic. They are lessons we each pay

for.
Some pay more, some pay less, but dang it, we all pay to be here.
Picture having a quilting lesson at your local quilt store where

every
so
often a person pops into the class room and advertises something,
interupting the lessons you paid for. You'd be right to be upset. It

could
be your best friend in the world, offering to quilt for you, or a total
stranger offering a better way of living thru pills or what have you.

Its
the same thing, an interuption.
But what about OT posts, you ask. Arent they an interruption as well?

Yes,
when we forget to mark them as being off topic, to the paying

subscriber
to
this group, they are, for some, an unwanted interruption of what they

pay
to
come here for. Quilt lessons. When we do remember to use the OT in the
header it is as if we have excused ourselves to the little room over

there
with the coffee urn and the nummy desserts where we wont be interupting

the
other quilters with our chatter.
We all have the right to be here. We have the right to a newsgroup

that
the majority will find useful and fun. Along with those rights comes a
serious responsibilty to police ourselves and our own posts. If we

decide
as
a group to allow people to post ads where do we draw the line? Who gets

to
post ads and how many and how often is offensive? Do we get to pick on
people who are obviously not regular posters? Who is going to police

such
a
wishy washy policy?
Does it make more sense to make a blanket policy that advertisments

are
to
go to rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace? That is what it is for.
Rant mode over, back to quilting
Diana


Real e-mail address spelled out to prevent spam. kate at mardiweb dot

com.
____________________

My Quilting page: http://www.mardiweb.com/quilts/MardiQuilts.html
Paint Shop Pro tutorials: http://www.mardiweb.com/web
Low-Fat Lifestyle Forum: http://www.mardiweb.com/lowfat





 




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