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Old April 21st 05, 07:30 AM
M Rimmer
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Whenever I do free motion quilting I suffer from occasional loops of top
thread on the back of my work. Big loopy loops, but just the odd one or
two. I don't mean the great big knots you get when you forget to drop
the presser foot (I get them sometimes, too, but at least I know what
causes that!). I suspect they appear when I slow my machine speed right
down, and when I'm sewing along at a normal fm speed everything is OK.

Does anyone know what's going on, and how to avoid it?

I'll let you in on a secret - I'm hoping you'll say "Oh yes, that
happens sometimes with very cheap basic machines. I'll bet you use a
20-year-old plastic Singer don't you? What you need is a fancy new
sewing machine. Tell your husband we said so". But if you don't say that
I'll be happy with "Oh yes, that happens when you haven't got your
doohicky attached, you know, the one that came with your sm and you
never knew what it was for but you kept it safe anyway. Just clip that
on and set your stitch length to two-and-a-quarter, and it will never
happen again"
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Old April 21st 05, 09:28 AM
Kate Dicey
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M Rimmer wrote:

Whenever I do free motion quilting I suffer from occasional loops of top
thread on the back of my work. Big loopy loops, but just the odd one or
two. I don't mean the great big knots you get when you forget to drop
the presser foot (I get them sometimes, too, but at least I know what
causes that!). I suspect they appear when I slow my machine speed right
down, and when I'm sewing along at a normal fm speed everything is OK.

Does anyone know what's going on, and how to avoid it?

I'll let you in on a secret - I'm hoping you'll say "Oh yes, that
happens sometimes with very cheap basic machines. I'll bet you use a
20-year-old plastic Singer don't you? What you need is a fancy new
sewing machine. Tell your husband we said so". But if you don't say that
I'll be happy with "Oh yes, that happens when you haven't got your
doohicky attached, you know, the one that came with your sm and you
never knew what it was for but you kept it safe anyway. Just clip that
on and set your stitch length to two-and-a-quarter, and it will never
happen again"



I get that when I run the machine too slow and move the fabric too fast!
Walloping great stitches and loopy mess on the back! Sorry - happens
with Lily, the Lotus, and the treadle! Have yet to try FM on the
Viscount or Mum's new FW II.

Are you using the darning foot? I find that helps a LOT!

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Old April 21st 05, 01:06 PM
C & S
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Humm.. I don't get big loopy loops when I MQ. I do get tension problems
(small loops on top or loose tension on the back of the quilt) when I use
the glow bug thread (which is occasionally as an accent to a design). I
still haven't figured out how to totally fix that problem yet no matter how
much I play with the tension. Using all purpose Coats thread in the bobbin
with that glow bug seems to work better, no small loops on the top. For
general all purpose MQ, I tend to use Metler, silk finish for . I like the
idea that I can use the same thread in my bobbin.

If it's any consolation, I don't use what you refer to as a "cheap" machine
;o) - I have a Bernina 1090 which I wouldn't trade for the world. It is a
work horse and it never lets me down.

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"M Rimmer" wrote in message
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Whenever I do free motion quilting I suffer from occasional loops of top
thread on the back of my work. Big loopy loops, but just the odd one or
two. I don't mean the great big knots you get when you forget to drop
the presser foot (I get them sometimes, too, but at least I know what
causes that!). I suspect they appear when I slow my machine speed right
down, and when I'm sewing along at a normal fm speed everything is OK.

Does anyone know what's going on, and how to avoid it?

I'll let you in on a secret - I'm hoping you'll say "Oh yes, that
happens sometimes with very cheap basic machines. I'll bet you use a
20-year-old plastic Singer don't you? What you need is a fancy new
sewing machine. Tell your husband we said so". But if you don't say that
I'll be happy with "Oh yes, that happens when you haven't got your
doohicky attached, you know, the one that came with your sm and you
never knew what it was for but you kept it safe anyway. Just clip that
on and set your stitch length to two-and-a-quarter, and it will never
happen again"
--
M Rimmer




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Old April 21st 05, 01:10 PM
Polly Esther
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Hush, Kate. Go sit down. Here's the correct answer.Oh yes, that
happens sometimes with very cheap basic machines. I'll bet you use a
20-year-old plastic Singer don't you? What you need is a fancy new
sewing machine. Tell your husband we said so.

There are several lovely sewing machines out now that are especially for
quilters. I have the Bernina one and my neighbor has a new Viking. Mother's
Day is coming soon. What a fine gift a fancy new sewing machine would be.
Polly (How did I do?)

"Kate Dicey"
I get that when I run the machine too slow and move the fabric too fast!
Walloping great stitches and loopy mess on the back! Sorry - happens
with Lily, the Lotus, and the treadle! Have yet to try FM on the
Viscount or Mum's new FW II.

Are you using the darning foot? I find that helps a LOT!



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Old April 21st 05, 02:10 PM
C & S
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"Kate Dicey" wrote in message
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I get that when I run the machine too slow and move the fabric too fast!
Walloping great stitches and loopy mess on the back! Sorry - happens
with Lily, the Lotus, and the treadle!

Hey Kate, maybe you need a new machine ;o). As Polly mentioned, mother's
day is coming up!

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Champlain, NY
http://photos.yahoo.com/ceridwen_rhea


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Old April 21st 05, 03:14 PM
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I've got the Bernina Virtuosa QE and it does it on the back to. No amount
of tension adjustment seems to help. I was hoping someone knew what could
be done to avoid it.

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"Polly Esther" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hush, Kate. Go sit down. Here's the correct answer.Oh yes, that
happens sometimes with very cheap basic machines. I'll bet you use a
20-year-old plastic Singer don't you? What you need is a fancy new
sewing machine. Tell your husband we said so.

There are several lovely sewing machines out now that are especially
for
quilters. I have the Bernina one and my neighbor has a new Viking.
Mother's
Day is coming soon. What a fine gift a fancy new sewing machine would be.
Polly (How did I do?)

"Kate Dicey"
I get that when I run the machine too slow and move the fabric too fast!
Walloping great stitches and loopy mess on the back! Sorry - happens
with Lily, the Lotus, and the treadle! Have yet to try FM on the
Viscount or Mum's new FW II.

Are you using the darning foot? I find that helps a LOT!





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Old April 21st 05, 05:03 PM
marbles_2
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I always thought loops were just me! I used to have an old clunky cheap
White sewing machine, and before that a cheap Sears Brother machine
(and before that a Singer treadle) and sometimes I'd get globs of loops
so thick I thought I had to through the project away. Last summer I
bought a brand new Pfaff 2034 and was happy as can be until the loops
came along while trying to quilt a purse I was making. *Booo hooo hoooo
hoooooooooo!* (I figured if I couldn't quilt a dang purse panel, how
could I do a quilt for a bed?? And I am way too stubborn to let anyone
else do my quilting!!) I did figure that sometimes the bobbin wasn't
wound very smoothly, or sometimes if I sewed too fast maybe the bobbin
was spinning around even faster down there and sent out extra thread. I
figured I had to be a little more steady and patient and to pay
attention and make sure all my settings are perfect, and the threading
is correct (sometimes thread jumps out on top as well). But I don't
know for sure. I'd kinda hate to have to buy a fancier fancier
machine........

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Old April 21st 05, 05:17 PM
Jessamy
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if it's any consolation my friend has the same problem...
she has a top of the line Janome which she uses with her Handiquilter...

Me? I have a lower end Janome (419S) which I love but I don't free motion
on anything important and don't worry overly much on the things I *do* free
motion quilt :-) - I am still in the practice stage but lack practice due to
a severe lack of finished projects

--
Jessamy ( UFO's ? what are UFO's? ummmmm those boxes filled with projects I
started once upon a time? ... ummmm... well..... um... *only* 65 of them -
you mean I would class as expert if I finished them? yikes!!)
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I always thought loops were just me! I used to have an old clunky cheap
White sewing machine, and before that a cheap Sears Brother machine
(and before that a Singer treadle) and sometimes I'd get globs of loops
so thick I thought I had to through the project away. Last summer I
bought a brand new Pfaff 2034 and was happy as can be until the loops
came along while trying to quilt a purse I was making. *Booo hooo hoooo
hoooooooooo!* (I figured if I couldn't quilt a dang purse panel, how
could I do a quilt for a bed?? And I am way too stubborn to let anyone
else do my quilting!!) I did figure that sometimes the bobbin wasn't
wound very smoothly, or sometimes if I sewed too fast maybe the bobbin
was spinning around even faster down there and sent out extra thread. I
figured I had to be a little more steady and patient and to pay
attention and make sure all my settings are perfect, and the threading
is correct (sometimes thread jumps out on top as well). But I don't
know for sure. I'd kinda hate to have to buy a fancier fancier
machine........


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Old April 21st 05, 07:00 PM
Marcella Peek
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When I bought my Brother 1500 loops on the back became a thing of the
past. I cannot get it to make those loops when I try just to see if I
can.

I think part of it is the straight stitch throat plate. It keeps the
thread in good position to form a stitch on the back. Sometimes you can
buy a straight stitch throat plate for regular sewing machines. Just
make sure you take it off before you change to fancy stitching!

marcella

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"Jessamy" wrote:

if it's any consolation my friend has the same problem...
she has a top of the line Janome which she uses with her Handiquilter...

Me? I have a lower end Janome (419S) which I love but I don't free motion
on anything important and don't worry overly much on the things I *do* free
motion quilt :-) - I am still in the practice stage but lack practice due to
a severe lack of finished projects

--
Jessamy ( UFO's ? what are UFO's? ummmmm those boxes filled with projects I
started once upon a time? ... ummmm... well..... um... *only* 65 of them -
you mean I would class as expert if I finished them? yikes!!)
www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jess_ayad/my_photos
In The Netherlands
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I always thought loops were just me! I used to have an old clunky cheap
White sewing machine, and before that a cheap Sears Brother machine
(and before that a Singer treadle) and sometimes I'd get globs of loops
so thick I thought I had to through the project away. Last summer I
bought a brand new Pfaff 2034 and was happy as can be until the loops
came along while trying to quilt a purse I was making. *Booo hooo hoooo
hoooooooooo!* (I figured if I couldn't quilt a dang purse panel, how
could I do a quilt for a bed?? And I am way too stubborn to let anyone
else do my quilting!!) I did figure that sometimes the bobbin wasn't
wound very smoothly, or sometimes if I sewed too fast maybe the bobbin
was spinning around even faster down there and sent out extra thread. I
figured I had to be a little more steady and patient and to pay
attention and make sure all my settings are perfect, and the threading
is correct (sometimes thread jumps out on top as well). But I don't
know for sure. I'd kinda hate to have to buy a fancier fancier
machine........

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Old April 21st 05, 07:20 PM
SNIGDIBBLY
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My loops are from the excess top thread being pulled to the back - not the
bottom/bobbin thread.
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"marbles_2" wrote in message
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I always thought loops were just me! I used to have an old clunky cheap
White sewing machine, and before that a cheap Sears Brother machine
(and before that a Singer treadle) and sometimes I'd get globs of loops
so thick I thought I had to through the project away. Last summer I
bought a brand new Pfaff 2034 and was happy as can be until the loops
came along while trying to quilt a purse I was making. *Booo hooo hoooo
hoooooooooo!* (I figured if I couldn't quilt a dang purse panel, how
could I do a quilt for a bed?? And I am way too stubborn to let anyone
else do my quilting!!) I did figure that sometimes the bobbin wasn't
wound very smoothly, or sometimes if I sewed too fast maybe the bobbin
was spinning around even faster down there and sent out extra thread. I
figured I had to be a little more steady and patient and to pay
attention and make sure all my settings are perfect, and the threading
is correct (sometimes thread jumps out on top as well). But I don't
know for sure. I'd kinda hate to have to buy a fancier fancier
machine........



 




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