OT OT People fed up with gas prices being jerked around in Canada

I was in Nova Scotia on vacation just recently and I didn't notice a
dramatic increase in gas prices. I spoke with my grandmother about it and
she said that it has always been high in the city that they live in.
However, here in Ottawa, the ESSO station that is close to my house has
always had the lowest prices out of the stations around my area. The most
expensive gas that I saw was on my way home from the Maritimes, it was in
Quebec and it was up to 91.9 cents per liter and it wasn't an ESSO station.
IIRC it was an Ultramar.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Suzanne N. Fernandes
Ottawa, ON, Canada
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There has been much whining on our local group about how the gas
prices suddenly jump up prior to holidays such as the Labour Day
Weekend, Thanksgiving etc. or simply just when the gas companies feel
they want some extras. They openly admitted the other day that the
blackout had dinged their profits and ergo, they had to raise our
prices - in Nova Scotia - to cover lack of profits in Ontario.

So down here, we have decided the only course we can take is to avoid
one particular brand, Esso. We know, it's not really significant, but
sometimes you can't stands no more,like Popeye. The baby of the
newsgroup said he was making signs to print and put under wipers.
Someone else posted this site - I just thought I would pass it on.
(*l*)
http://www.glowinthedarkmonkey.com it's good for a giggle.

I would also ask all good Canadians, for the next while, do not
patronize Esso. Show them we have had enough of being taken for
granted, we are NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE, ANARCHY IS CLOSE!

Sheena

Our gas prices here in NJ have jumped 30 - 35 cents a gallon practically
overnight. In our paper this morning there is a big article about the
increase but no real explanation. Tees me off when these spikes occur but
suddenly they will drop again after the holiday.

I, too, was wishing there could be some kind of boycott, but the truth is
that we need to buy gas to get to work and such. They got us right where
they want us. For one thing, I have really cut back on any nonsense
driving. I got rid of my gas-guzzling SUV. This has really saved me money
at the pumps. God knows, that I need those extra bucks for more stash!

So what will we do when the gas runs out as they know it will in the not too
far distant future?

Pat P.

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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:34:24 -0400, "goaliemom"
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Our gas prices here in NJ have jumped 30 - 35 cents a gallon practically
overnight. In our paper this morning there is a big article about the
increase but no real explanation. Tees me off when these spikes occur
but
suddenly they will drop again after the holiday.

I, too, was wishing there could be some kind of boycott, but the truth is
that we need to buy gas to get to work and such. They got us right where
they want us. For one thing, I have really cut back on any nonsense
driving. I got rid of my gas-guzzling SUV. This has really saved me
money
at the pumps. God knows, that I need those extra bucks for more stash!

That was why we decided we should just pick one brand, in our case
Esso, to boycott. In fact all gas around here comes from the same
refinery, an Esso one, but we hope that when the Esso stations find
they are cooling their heels, they will drop their price to woo people
back.

If we are all primed the moment the price lifts, to do this, then we
feel they will at least have an action/reaction that they will ignite.
It just might deter them because do they really want that hassle?

We knew it was unrealistic to ask people to stop using gas - I live
outside of town and I am not prepared to stay home all the time. I
have a small car that takes little gas so I have done my bit in that
sense.

Sheena

Not fighting words at all, just thinking that the scarcer it gets, the more
we`ll pay (be thankful you don`t pay the prices WE do!) and - wondering what
we`ll do when it all runs out!!! As simple and straightforward and
non-argumentative as that! Not that it will worry us oldies - at least I
think it`ll last long enough to fire up the oil-fired crematoriums for us!
Hopefully they`ll have thought up some other means of energy. At least we`re
going in for more wind-farms now. Naturally people are objecting to them,
but at least they`re better than coal-mines and slag heaps! They keep
TALKING about harnessing tidal energy, but I`ve seen precious little
evidence of it yet. Mind you, our old Tide mill at Woodbridge is back in
working order so it`s not a new concept in any case. Think of the tidal
schemes they could set up on the Severn.

Pat P
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:35:55 +0100, "Pat Porter"
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So what will we do when the gas runs out as they know it will in the not
too
far distant future?

Pat P.

I am trying to figure out what you mean ? We know it will run out but
in the interim some of us are trying to control the extreme commercial
greed of oil companies.

If there was an alternative, I would like to use it. Electric cars
are not that available at even just slightly more than gas cars. Then
you have to factor in how electricity is generated in your area and
what that is doing.

We can't all live in town, take busses and ride bikes.

So come on Pat - tell me what you mean! I think them's fighting
words but I am not quite clear on what we want to fight about lol

Sheena

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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:34:24 -0400, "goaliemom"
wrote:

Our gas prices here in NJ have jumped 30 - 35 cents a gallon
practically
overnight. In our paper this morning there is a big article about the
increase but no real explanation. Tees me off when these spikes occur
but
suddenly they will drop again after the holiday.

I, too, was wishing there could be some kind of boycott, but the truth
is
that we need to buy gas to get to work and such. They got us right
where
they want us. For one thing, I have really cut back on any nonsense
driving. I got rid of my gas-guzzling SUV. This has really saved me
money
at the pumps. God knows, that I need those extra bucks for more
stash!

That was why we decided we should just pick one brand, in our case
Esso, to boycott. In fact all gas around here comes from the same
refinery, an Esso one, but we hope that when the Esso stations find
they are cooling their heels, they will drop their price to woo people
back.

If we are all primed the moment the price lifts, to do this, then we
feel they will at least have an action/reaction that they will ignite.
It just might deter them because do they really want that hassle?

We knew it was unrealistic to ask people to stop using gas - I live
outside of town and I am not prepared to stay home all the time. I
have a small car that takes little gas so I have done my bit in that
sense.

Sheena

they want some extras. They openly admitted the other day that the
blackout had dinged their profits and ergo, they had to raise our
prices - in Nova Scotia - to cover lack of profits in Ontario.

LOL Here in Ontario we were led to believe that our high prices were
because a list of things:

1. The blackout - refineries were down for 3-4 days, therefore gas wasn't
produced, which created a mild shortage
2. The blackout - in a panic, there was a significant increase in the
demand for gas once the blackout ended, with more people filling up their
tanks and extra canisters than normal - creating a mild shortage
and
3. The pipeline burst down in Arizona - this was according to one station
the major reason for the increase.

So maybe we add in a fourth, lack of profits in Ontario ? But then alot of
us in the Toronto area were already prepared for an increase to 85 cents or
more... during the blackout there were stations raising their prices to
almost $1. LOL Suddenly 85 cents seemed cheap.

Shannon L.

"Pat Porter" ) writes:
Not fighting words at all, just thinking that the scarcer it gets, the more
we`ll pay (be thankful you don`t pay the prices WE do!) and - wondering what
we`ll do when it all runs out!!! As simple and straightforward and
non-argumentative as that! Not that it will worry us oldies - at least I
think it`ll last long enough to fire up the oil-fired crematoriums for us!
Hopefully they`ll have thought up some other means of energy. At least we`re
going in for more wind-farms now. Naturally people are objecting to them,
but at least they`re better than coal-mines and slag heaps! They keep
TALKING about harnessing tidal energy, but I`ve seen precious little
evidence of it yet. Mind you, our old Tide mill at Woodbridge is back in
working order so it`s not a new concept in any case. Think of the tidal
schemes they could set up on the Severn.

Pat P

I cannot answer for other countries, but here in Canada we can last
for a very long time. The oil sands in Alberta have something like more
proven reserves than all the rest of the world put together. The trouble
is it takes a lot of effort to get the oil out, but we know, now, how to
do it. If necessary we are self-sufficient for a very long time. We are
also producing a lot of ethanol. Mainly from corn, but the byproduct is
cattle feed, very rich in protein, so this is financially feasible. We
can also produce it from straw, and some specific types of wood. These
latter are not yet commercially viable. Interestingly enough, wind farms
are much more efficient in cold climates; the air is that much more dense
in the cold. Good for "The true north strong and free". I understand
that wave power is more likely to come on stream before tidal power.
--
Jim Cripwell.
The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of one's life, any
time that is spent in stitching.
Adapted from a sign on The Cobb, Lyme Regis, England.

What about the scheme that's been tested - and proven (!!!!!) on using
manure as fuel - methane being the gas in question . I'm sure plenty of this
is around for many many years to come LOL !!!
Jan
"Pat Porter" wrote in message
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Not fighting words at all, just thinking that the scarcer it gets, the
more
we`ll pay (be thankful you don`t pay the prices WE do!) and - wondering
what
we`ll do when it all runs out!!! As simple and straightforward and
non-argumentative as that! Not that it will worry us oldies - at least I
think it`ll last long enough to fire up the oil-fired crematoriums for us!
Hopefully they`ll have thought up some other means of energy. At least
we`re
going in for more wind-farms now. Naturally people are objecting to them,
but at least they`re better than coal-mines and slag heaps! They keep
TALKING about harnessing tidal energy, but I`ve seen precious little
evidence of it yet. Mind you, our old Tide mill at Woodbridge is back in
working order so it`s not a new concept in any case. Think of the tidal
schemes they could set up on the Severn.

Yes - there`s a chicken-s**t place near here that uses the gas therefrom
for heating houses!

Pat P

"Jan Lennie" wrote in message
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What about the scheme that's been tested - and proven (!!!!!) on using
manure as fuel - methane being the gas in question . I'm sure plenty of
this
is around for many many years to come LOL !!!
Jan
"Pat Porter" wrote in message
...
Not fighting words at all, just thinking that the scarcer it gets, the
more
we`ll pay (be thankful you don`t pay the prices WE do!) and - wondering
what
we`ll do when it all runs out!!! As simple and straightforward and
non-argumentative as that! Not that it will worry us oldies - at least
I
think it`ll last long enough to fire up the oil-fired crematoriums for
us!
Hopefully they`ll have thought up some other means of energy. At least
we`re
going in for more wind-farms now. Naturally people are objecting to
them,
but at least they`re better than coal-mines and slag heaps! They keep
TALKING about harnessing tidal energy, but I`ve seen precious little
evidence of it yet. Mind you, our old Tide mill at Woodbridge is back
in
working order so it`s not a new concept in any case. Think of the tidal
schemes they could set up on the Severn.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 23:28:29 -0300, wrote:

http://www.glowinthedarkmonkey.com
I followed one of the links on this delightful site, and found a
source for an amusing bumpersticker:
Republicans:
Proof Against Evolution

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Darla
Sacred cows make great hamburgers.

We went from about 1.30 usd to 1.59 usd per gallon ( and that's for the low
grade). Of course I live in TN near 2 major Interstates I 81 and I 40.
Last week was the Bristol races back to school, labor day weekend ( 1st Vol
game this weekend, Charlotte races, Boomsday celebration, outlets nearby,
and Dollywood).

I live in a rural area, we'll go back to horse and buggy (but of course
there's always Tennessee Valley Authority and Oak Ridge National Labs). We
have quite a few natural gas deposits here.

Wish I could make it back up to Canada someday, beautiful country and
friendly people.

--
Angel
My family are the golden threads running
through the tapestry of my life.
My friends are the silver threads running
through the tapestry of my life.
The gold and silver in my tapestry show
happiness, love, sadness, togetherness.
And most important of all love.
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:17:54 GMT, Darla wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 23:28:29 -0300, wrote:

http://www.glowinthedarkmonkey.com
I followed one of the links on this delightful site, and found a
source for an amusing bumpersticker:
Republicans:
Proof Against Evolution

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Darla
Sacred cows make great hamburgers.

You devil you! Logically of the Americans on rctn just over 50% at
least must be Republican - or should I count that up again lol