Told in a Garden "Baby in a Basket"

Told in a Garden's "Baby in a Basket" is charted to be stitched
over two, with the baby's face and hands over one. I'd like to
stitch the whole thing over one. Before I spend time recharting
it myself, just thought I'd ask if anyone has already done this
-- or had advice for me.

TIA,



Peaches

If the face & hands are stitched over-one, whilst the rest of the
pattern is stitched over-two, then I believe all the over-two stitches
would have to be converted to over-one. Not a very simple thing to do,
even for practiced needleworkers, especially if fractional stitches
and/or beads are used! The face & hands would remain the same, but this
means the remainder (over-two) Xs of the pattern would have to be
converted from one single (over-two) X to four (over-one) Xs. I hope
y'all know what I mean to say (?). Metallic thread (if not already
used) can be substituted for beads.

My advice, for what it's worth, would be to stitch this piece as
directed, but use a much finer count of ground fabric. Also reduce the
number of fibers by half. By using a finer ground fabric and half the
fiber, the count is greatly increased, thus making the dimensions of the
finished piece much smaller (I hope I make sense?). If beads are used
in the pattern, they may have to be omitted (sp?) or substituded with
metallic thread instead (as already mentioned) due to difference(s) in
dimension to the ground fabric.

Good luck with the piece, and I'm sure no matter how you tackle the
piece, the finished product will be awesome!

Sweet Stitching!!!!!!!

Helen (Skyhooks)
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Peaches wrote:

Told in a Garden's "Baby in a Basket" is charted to be stitched
over two, with the baby's face and hands over one. I'd like to
stitch the whole thing over one. Before I spend time recharting
it myself, just thought I'd ask if anyone has already done this
-- or had advice for me.

TIA,

Peaches

Peaches wrote:

Hi, Victoria! Sorry I wasn't clear.

The face and hands are blank on the main chart -- no symbols.
There are "over one" charts for these spaces at the edge of the
page, with four stitches for every blank square on the main
chart.

I've seen charts with optional pieces if you want to do the face
over one, but they've always had symbols for doing it the same
size/scale as the rest of the chart.

It's not too hard to turn "over two" into "over one" but going
the other way seems more difficult to me. There's a lot of
detail in the over one charts that will be lost, and not being a
designer, I wondered if anyone had done this one already.


I'm confused. Do you want to stitch the whole
piece over one, or do you want to stitch the whole piece
over two? Your original post seemed to say the former,
but this one seems to say the latter?

Best wishes,
Ericka

"Ericka Kammerer" wrote in message

Peaches wrote:
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It's not too hard to turn "over two" into "over one" but going
the other way seems more difficult to me. There's a lot of
detail in the over one charts that will be lost, and not being a
designer, I wondered if anyone had done this one already.


I'm confused. Do you want to stitch the whole
piece over one, or do you want to stitch the whole piece
over two? Your original post seemed to say the former,
but this one seems to say the latter?

I think I understand what she's saying.
If she just stiches the over-2 chart as an over-1 chart she'll have to the
change the face and hands to fit. That would require decreasing the number
of stitches........just the same as if she were to keep it over-2 and change
the face and hands to over-2. (Four stitches would have to become one
stitch.)

So it's a choice between that or converting the rest of the chart to over-1
(one stitch becomes 4 stitches) and leaving the face and hands as charted.

Ouch! It's way too early to be doing brain gymnastics. I think I have a
cramp. lol
--
Jeri
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because
thorns have roses."
~author unknown~

Jeri wrote:


I think I understand what she's saying.
If she just stiches the over-2 chart as an over-1 chart she'll have to the
change the face and hands to fit. That would require decreasing the number
of stitches........just the same as if she were to keep it over-2 and change
the face and hands to over-2. (Four stitches would have to become one
stitch.)

So it's a choice between that or converting the rest of the chart to over-1
(one stitch becomes 4 stitches) and leaving the face and hands as charted.

Ouch! It's way too early to be doing brain gymnastics. I think I have a
cramp. lol


Ahhhhh, the light dawns ;-) Thanks for clearing
that up. I was mightily confused for a while there.
She's actually changing the *scale* of the thing. Wish
I had a good solution for the OP. I probably wouldn't
choose to do something painful like that. If I wanted
it smaller, I'd probably just use a smaller ground and
prepare for teeny tiny stitches for the over-one part.
If I wanted it more detailed all over, I'd switch the
over-2 part to over-1 by changing each over-2 stitch
into four over-1 stitches.

Best wishes,
Ericka

If the face & hands are stitched over-one, whilst the rest of the
pattern is stitched over-two, then I believe all the over-two stitches
would have to be converted to over-one. Not a very simple thing to do,
even for practiced needleworkers, especially if fractional stitches
and/or beads are used! The face & hands would remain the same, but this
means the remainder (over-two) Xs of the pattern would have to be
converted from one single (over-two) X to four (over-one) Xs. I hope
y'all know what I mean to say (?)

I did this on a recent piece and will have to go over it when the entire
work is done and smooth out the corners. Doing four instead of one can lead
to a very boxy look if you follow the chart exactly.
Liz from Humbug

Peaches wrote:
The face and hands are blank on the main chart -- no symbols.
There are "over one" charts for these spaces at the edge of the
page, with four stitches for every blank square on the main
chart.

I've seen charts with optional pieces if you want to do the face
over one, but they've always had symbols for doing it the same
size/scale as the rest of the chart.

It's not too hard to turn "over two" into "over one" but going
the other way seems more difficult to me. There's a lot of
detail in the over one charts that will be lost, and not being a
designer, I wondered if anyone had done this one already.

Thanks!
Peaches

Not only is the face over one, but there are fractional stitches shown
for the eyes and mouth although you could do that with a half stitch
going the appropriate direction and then adding the backstitch on top.

The over one face gives it detail.

I agree with Skyhooks that doing the design on finer count fabric would
be the best option.

But that depends on your reason for wanting to do it all over one. If
you want to stitch it on Aida, it's possible to pierce the center of
the fabric intersection (carefully) to do the over one part. It will be
worth it to get the detail.

If you already plan to use very fine fabric, just wing it combining
each clump of four stitches on the face into a single stitch. You'll
be losing detail especially with three different colors of over one
stitches (only one place). Otherwise, choose the color that has the
majority. In half and half situations, guess. But if it's so small,
the colors will blend together.

You will be losing detail, but depending on why you want to do it all
over one, maybe it doesn't matter. I'd be sure to get the backstitching
on the face just right.

Beth Katz

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 14:28:08 GMT, "Jeri"
wrote:

I think I understand what she's saying.
If she just stiches the over-2 chart as an over-1 chart she'll have to the
change the face and hands to fit. That would require decreasing the number
of stitches........just the same as if she were to keep it over-2 and change
the face and hands to over-2. (Four stitches would have to become one
stitch.)

Yes, Jeri! That's exactly what I meant. Thanks to everyone who
tried to figure out what I was talking about, but this project
went back in the drawer.

I intended to stitch it for a dear friend's first grandchild.
Her DIL is due in January. But this morning I overheard the DIL
hope she didn't get "any of that embroidered crap." So I will
buy something instead.

Peaches

Peaches wrote:

I intended to stitch it for a dear friend's first grandchild.
Her DIL is due in January. But this morning I overheard the DIL
hope she didn't get "any of that embroidered crap." So I will
buy something instead.

How terrible! But at least you heard this before you put a lot of time
and effort into something that wouldn't be appreciated. I can't help
but think that she doesn't know what she's missing.

I used to clean houses during the summer on Cape Cod and I hated nothing
more than trying to get the sand out of braided rugs. So when my
mother, who hooked and braided beautifully, offered to make me a braided
rug, I said "no way." But then I got to thinking about it and decided
that I had been a fool. So I went back to my mother and asked her if I
could reconsider. She made me a gorgeous rug that I cherish (and that I
need to go recover. It's rolled up in a room on the third floor where
we put it when the puppy arrived. Since he's three and absolutely
fastidious, it's a good bet that I can safely put it back down) and
since no-one tracks sand in my house, I don't even mind vacuuming it.

Elizabeth
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The most important thing one woman can do for another is to illuminate
and expand her sense of actual possibilities. --Adrienne Rich
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On 12/7/03 10:20 PM, in article , "Dr. Brat"
wrote:

Peaches wrote:

I intended to stitch it for a dear friend's first grandchild.
Her DIL is due in January. But this morning I overheard the DIL
hope she didn't get "any of that embroidered crap." So I will
buy something instead.

How terrible! But at least you heard this before you put a lot of time
and effort into something that wouldn't be appreciated. I can't help
but think that she doesn't know what she's missing.

I used to clean houses during the summer on Cape Cod and I hated nothing
more than trying to get the sand out of braided rugs. So when my
mother, who hooked and braided beautifully, offered to make me a braided
rug, I said "no way." But then I got to thinking about it and decided
that I had been a fool. So I went back to my mother and asked her if I
could reconsider. She made me a gorgeous rug that I cherish (and that I
need to go recover. It's rolled up in a room on the third floor where
we put it when the puppy arrived. Since he's three and absolutely
fastidious, it's a good bet that I can safely put it back down) and
since no-one tracks sand in my house, I don't even mind vacuuming it.

Elizabeth

Having done the same work at one time in my life - you can't get sand out of
any carpet with out a shop vac! But you must have worked at the better
places!
Cheryl