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For English Majors only. First of all. I am NOT, no way, do not take it as such, picking on Marilyn. I am just trying to get my head wrapped around the correct wordage,/correct usage of the word 'sewed' and 'sewn' in the below sentence. Past tense, present past tense, future present past tense....see what I mean? I won't tell you how many times I have reread it trying to make sense. Fibro-fog does it to you. Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? One of the conundrums of Fibro--you get fixated on a sentence and can't it forget it. This is driving me nutzo! Help. Private email is fine. Once again...it has NOTHING to do with Marilyn. Please don't take it that way. it has NOTHING to do with local word usage-----just me and my word usage this AM. Now from Marilyn::::: So, I've done that. Decided I still needed 8 more blocks. I've got 5 of them done, and I have sewed on 3 sides of that last border. Now I need to patch in some batting..........Marilyn in Alberta, Canada .. Butterfly (off to the Dr this AM to see if I need a Med or two changed) |
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sew. P.p. sewed or sewn. The first is, perhaps contrary to general
belief, the older form and (to judge by the OED 19th-20th-c. examples) was then slightly the commoner. But sewn has since gained on it. [That's from Fowler's Modern English Usage.] I'm not an English Major, didn't sleep at the Holiday Inn Express last night. English isn't even my first language. First was Southern, learned some 'rose garden' English from rather fierce teachers. As long as I get the general idea of what's being said, I'm happy. I also checked with Mr. Webster and he didn't seem to care either. Polly "Butterflywings" wrote For English Majors only. First of all. I am NOT, no way, do not take it as such, picking on Marilyn. I am just trying to get my head wrapped around the correct wordage,/correct usage of the word 'sewed' and 'sewn' in the below sentence. Past tense, present past tense, future present past tense....see what I mean? I won't tell you how many times I have reread it trying to make sense. Fibro-fog does it to you. Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? One of the conundrums of Fibro--you get fixated on a sentence and can't it forget it. This is driving me nutzo! Help. Private email is fine. Once again...it has NOTHING to do with Marilyn. Please don't take it that way. it has NOTHING to do with local word usage-----just me and my word usage this AM. Now from Marilyn::::: So, I've done that. Decided I still needed 8 more blocks. I've got 5 of them done, and I have sewed on 3 sides of that last border. Now I need to patch in some batting..........Marilyn in Alberta, Canada .. Butterfly (off to the Dr this AM to see if I need a Med or two changed) |
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Hi Butterfly
Don't change your meds on my account! LOL No offence taken. I reread that and I see exactly what you mean. I believe I should have said "I have sewn" in the context that I used it. Although "I have sewed" would technically be correct cause I did "sew".... Ah heck maybe I should have just said "I attached by sewing" LOL Marilyn in Alberta, Canada not an English major by any means but I do like to play with wording. "Butterflywings" wrote in message ... For English Majors only. First of all. I am NOT, no way, do not take it as such, picking on Marilyn. I am just trying to get my head wrapped around the correct wordage,/correct usage of the word 'sewed' and 'sewn' in the below sentence. Past tense, present past tense, future present past tense....see what I mean? I won't tell you how many times I have reread it trying to make sense. Fibro-fog does it to you. Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? One of the conundrums of Fibro--you get fixated on a sentence and can't it forget it. This is driving me nutzo! Help. Private email is fine. Once again...it has NOTHING to do with Marilyn. Please don't take it that way. it has NOTHING to do with local word usage-----just me and my word usage this AM. Now from Marilyn::::: So, I've done that. Decided I still needed 8 more blocks. I've got 5 of them done, and I have sewed on 3 sides of that last border. Now I need to patch in some batting..........Marilyn in Alberta, Canada .. Butterfly (off to the Dr this AM to see if I need a Med or two changed) |
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I read and reread and just couldn't decide which one sounded better let
alone read better. LOL So I thought I'd ask. Love that I used read as Read and Read Oh, this is gonna be a fine day. And yes, had 3 med changes, donated a pint and a half of blood and will find out this PM if I need to change/add one more. Butterfly (think I shall go work on the Star Afghan, up to the last 1/3 of the top 3 rows....) "marigold" wrote in message ... Hi Butterfly Don't change your meds on my account! LOL No offence taken. I reread that and I see exactly what you mean. I believe I should have said "I have sewn" in the context that I used it. Although "I have sewed" would technically be correct cause I did "sew".... Ah heck maybe I should have just said "I attached by sewing" LOL Marilyn in Alberta, Canada not an English major by any means but I do like to play with wording. "Butterflywings" wrote in message ... For English Majors only. First of all. I am NOT, no way, do not take it as such, picking on Marilyn. I am just trying to get my head wrapped around the correct wordage,/correct usage of the word 'sewed' and 'sewn' in the below sentence. Past tense, present past tense, future present past tense....see what I mean? I won't tell you how many times I have reread it trying to make sense. Fibro-fog does it to you. Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? One of the conundrums of Fibro--you get fixated on a sentence and can't it forget it. This is driving me nutzo! Help. Private email is fine. Once again...it has NOTHING to do with Marilyn. Please don't take it that way. it has NOTHING to do with local word usage-----just me and my word usage this AM. Now from Marilyn::::: So, I've done that. Decided I still needed 8 more blocks. I've got 5 of them done, and I have sewed on 3 sides of that last border. Now I need to patch in some batting..........Marilyn in Alberta, Canada .. Butterfly (off to the Dr this AM to see if I need a Med or two changed) |
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No wonder I couldn't decide! Either/ or would have been/ was correct
Butterfly (not as discombobbled as I thought) "Polly Esther" wrote in message ... sew. P.p. sewed or sewn. The first is, perhaps contrary to general belief, the older form and (to judge by the OED 19th-20th-c. examples) was then slightly the commoner. But sewn has since gained on it. [That's from Fowler's Modern English Usage.] I'm not an English Major, didn't sleep at the Holiday Inn Express last night. English isn't even my first language. First was Southern, learned some 'rose garden' English from rather fierce teachers. As long as I get the general idea of what's being said, I'm happy. I also checked with Mr. Webster and he didn't seem to care either. Polly "Butterflywings" wrote For English Majors only. First of all. I am NOT, no way, do not take it as such, picking on Marilyn. I am just trying to get my head wrapped around the correct wordage,/correct usage of the word 'sewed' and 'sewn' in the below sentence. Past tense, present past tense, future present past tense....see what I mean? I won't tell you how many times I have reread it trying to make sense. Fibro-fog does it to you. Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? One of the conundrums of Fibro--you get fixated on a sentence and can't it forget it. This is driving me nutzo! Help. Private email is fine. Once again...it has NOTHING to do with Marilyn. Please don't take it that way. it has NOTHING to do with local word usage-----just me and my word usage this AM. Now from Marilyn::::: So, I've done that. Decided I still needed 8 more blocks. I've got 5 of them done, and I have sewed on 3 sides of that last border. Now I need to patch in some batting..........Marilyn in Alberta, Canada .. Butterfly (off to the Dr this AM to see if I need a Med or two changed) |
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Butterflywings said:
Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? So I'ma chimin' in: English major here! Masters in Composition and I'm going on for a Doctorate in Linguistics. Here's the deal with "sewed/sewn"... A lot of words with Germanic roots are supposed to fall into the "-ed/-ewn" category. For example: present tense "hew"--to "hew down a tree" simple past "hewed"--"he hewed down that tree" (weird, I know, but correct) participial form "hewn"--"he has hewn down that tree" Participial forms ending in "-ewn" have rather recently come out of favor, so either of the "-ed" or the "-ewn" form are considered correct now. The meaning, however, depends upon the auxiliary verb placed with it: "had sewn" - I've sewn before in the past and I'm done with it now; it has no effect on current events. "have/has sewn" - I've sewn before in the past, and that even is affecting something else that's happening now. This subtle shade of different meaning between "had" and "have/has" affects the "shall", "will", and "might" auxiliaries below, too. "will have sewn" - By the time something else happens in the future, the sewing will be done. "might have sewn" - It's a possibility that the sewing has been done in the past. "shall have sewn" - By the will of someone or something, the sewing is going to be finished in the future. English goes on, practically ad infinitum, using auxiliaries to make the most subtle changes to the verb. We feel some need to get as precise as we can about the timing of the verb in question. Of course, the language is changing, and "have/has" and "had" don't always carry such exact information anymore. But what's here is the traditional grammarian's view. Did I muddle it up for ya, Butterfly? Anastasia --who's off to grade her junior high students' essays now |
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wow! You get an "A" in my grade book!
-- Kathyl (KJ) remove "nospam" before mchsi http://community.webshots.com/user/kathylquiltz "Anastasia Luettecke" wrote in message ... Butterflywings said: Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? So I'ma chimin' in: English major here! Masters in Composition and I'm going on for a Doctorate in Linguistics. Here's the deal with "sewed/sewn"... A lot of words with Germanic roots are supposed to fall into the "-ed/-ewn" category. For example: present tense "hew"--to "hew down a tree" simple past "hewed"--"he hewed down that tree" (weird, I know, but correct) participial form "hewn"--"he has hewn down that tree" Participial forms ending in "-ewn" have rather recently come out of favor, so either of the "-ed" or the "-ewn" form are considered correct now. The meaning, however, depends upon the auxiliary verb placed with it: "had sewn" - I've sewn before in the past and I'm done with it now; it has no effect on current events. "have/has sewn" - I've sewn before in the past, and that even is affecting something else that's happening now. This subtle shade of different meaning between "had" and "have/has" affects the "shall", "will", and "might" auxiliaries below, too. "will have sewn" - By the time something else happens in the future, the sewing will be done. "might have sewn" - It's a possibility that the sewing has been done in the past. "shall have sewn" - By the will of someone or something, the sewing is going to be finished in the future. English goes on, practically ad infinitum, using auxiliaries to make the most subtle changes to the verb. We feel some need to get as precise as we can about the timing of the verb in question. Of course, the language is changing, and "have/has" and "had" don't always carry such exact information anymore. But what's here is the traditional grammarian's view. Did I muddle it up for ya, Butterfly? Anastasia --who's off to grade her junior high students' essays now |
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Make it easy. If it stands alone, use "sewed" -- for example, I sewed a
seam. If it has a "helping verb" (is, are, was, were, has, have, had) use "sewn", though apparently "sewed" is also acceptable these days. Julia in MN Butterflywings wrote: For English Majors only. First of all. I am NOT, no way, do not take it as such, picking on Marilyn. I am just trying to get my head wrapped around the correct wordage,/correct usage of the word 'sewed' and 'sewn' in the below sentence. Past tense, present past tense, future present past tense....see what I mean? I won't tell you how many times I have reread it trying to make sense. Fibro-fog does it to you. Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? One of the conundrums of Fibro--you get fixated on a sentence and can't it forget it. This is driving me nutzo! Help. Private email is fine. Once again...it has NOTHING to do with Marilyn. Please don't take it that way. it has NOTHING to do with local word usage-----just me and my word usage this AM. Now from Marilyn::::: So, I've done that. Decided I still needed 8 more blocks. I've got 5 of them done, and I have sewed on 3 sides of that last border. Now I need to patch in some batting..........Marilyn in Alberta, Canada .. Butterfly (off to the Dr this AM to see if I need a Med or two changed) -- ----------- This message has been scanned for viruses by Norton Anti-Virus http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/ ----------- |
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Well, I looked at it, and in my mind "I have sewn" felt the more
correct. But if you are talking about someone else, in third person, it becomes "she has sewed" as the more correct sounding usage. but, as long as you get the point across, should it matter?............... Ginger in CA who knows the conundrums of teaching English to non-native speakers On Oct 3, 8:10*am, "Butterflywings" wrote: For English Majors only. First of all. I am NOT, no way, do not take it as such, picking on Marilyn. I am just trying to get my head wrapped around the correct wordage,/correct usage of the word 'sewed' and 'sewn' in the below sentence. Past tense, present past tense, future present past tense....see what I mean? I won't tell you how many times I have reread it trying to make sense. Fibro-fog does it to you. Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? One of the conundrums of Fibro--you get fixated on a sentence and can't it forget it. This is driving me nutzo! Help. Private email is fine. Once again...it has NOTHING to do with Marilyn. Please don't take it that way. it has NOTHING to do with local word usage-----just me and my word usage this AM. Now from Marilyn::::: So, I've done that. Decided I still needed 8 more blocks. I've got 5 of them done, and I have sewed on 3 sides of that last border. Now I need to patch in some batting..........Marilyn in Alberta, Canada .. Butterfly (off to the Dr this AM to see if I need a Med or two changed) |
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What a fascinating study, Anastasia. I'm giving you an "A" too. Polly
"KJ" wrote in message news:O6yFk.371275$yE1.201672@attbi_s21... wow! You get an "A" in my grade book! -- Kathyl (KJ) remove "nospam" before mchsi http://community.webshots.com/user/kathylquiltz "Anastasia Luettecke" wrote in message ... Butterflywings said: Does the usage of 'sewed' mean: She has sewn this far and needs to go on ---or should the word 'sewn' have been used because: She DID sew that far and no further. or is either/or correct? So I'ma chimin' in: English major here! Masters in Composition and I'm going on for a Doctorate in Linguistics. Here's the deal with "sewed/sewn"... A lot of words with Germanic roots are supposed to fall into the "-ed/-ewn" category. For example: present tense "hew"--to "hew down a tree" simple past "hewed"--"he hewed down that tree" (weird, I know, but correct) participial form "hewn"--"he has hewn down that tree" Participial forms ending in "-ewn" have rather recently come out of favor, so either of the "-ed" or the "-ewn" form are considered correct now. The meaning, however, depends upon the auxiliary verb placed with it: "had sewn" - I've sewn before in the past and I'm done with it now; it has no effect on current events. "have/has sewn" - I've sewn before in the past, and that even is affecting something else that's happening now. This subtle shade of different meaning between "had" and "have/has" affects the "shall", "will", and "might" auxiliaries below, too. "will have sewn" - By the time something else happens in the future, the sewing will be done. "might have sewn" - It's a possibility that the sewing has been done in the past. "shall have sewn" - By the will of someone or something, the sewing is going to be finished in the future. English goes on, practically ad infinitum, using auxiliaries to make the most subtle changes to the verb. We feel some need to get as precise as we can about the timing of the verb in question. Of course, the language is changing, and "have/has" and "had" don't always carry such exact information anymore. But what's here is the traditional grammarian's view. Did I muddle it up for ya, Butterfly? Anastasia --who's off to grade her junior high students' essays now |
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