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Lots actually, too many to post here. I teach both the current-trend,
balanced literacy - workshop model, shared reading, guided reading models. I also teach a strong phonics-based, developmental reading class. The long and short of it is that most students will learn to read no matter what method is used in what a former professor termed the "school of 'what's happening now'". However, some students - about 25% will learn to become fluent readers only with direct instruction in phonics and word structure. Contrary to popular opinion, much of the English language does follow some type of rule. A bit more that half of all words are fully decodable. Of the 50% what are not fully decodable, another 85% follow an either/or rule. Of the remaining 15%, all but 5% follow an either/or/or rule. The remaining words are non-decodable and must be taught as sight words. Many of these are high-frequency words. Combine the teaching of phonics, syllablication, and structural analysis with the 1000 most common words and you have the makings of a fluent reader. Off my soapbox. Linda PATCHogue, NY On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:46:19 -0500, "teleflora" wrote: I've seen this before and I think it is fascinating. I had a discussion a few years back with a friend who was bemoaning the fact that kids are not taught to read phonetically any more. She was of the opinion that phonics gives a better basis for learning. I really had no opinion one way or the other. I was taught to read phonetically back in the early 60's, but I have no trouble reading a paragraph such as this. |
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Spelling OT
Dear Pt, I ahte to ay tihs but your spel cecker has gone on vacation again.
Butterfly (sed my finers only wokr on my good dazz--whzts your excus) "Pat in Virginia" wrote in message news:n5Q7f.14450$vk1.14137@dukeread04... Tahkns a mliloin, Mray! Fnuny! Pat in Vriingia Mary in Washington wrote: Thought I would put this on since there was a thread about spelling a while back. It is really interesting. Only smart people can read this.... Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! |
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i count 6 "f"s
WitchyStitcher wrote: Gee, and I thought it was only because I 'm a special ed teacher. Actually, a good reader predicts and fills in, and that is why you can read it. A poor reader reads word-by-word with a great deal of effort going into the reading, and would not be able to read it. A while ago, a passage with the "count the instances of the letter "f" Most people can't do it because their minds don't process the word "OF" unless it contributes significantly to meaning. FINISHED FILES ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS Linda PATCHogue, NY On 26 Oct 2005 09:47:50 -0700, "Mary in Washington" wrote: Thought I would put this on since there was a thread about spelling a while back. It is really interesting. Only smart people can read this.... Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! |
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6 is correct - most people on their first reading only count 3 or 4
Linda PATCHogue, NY On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:58:09 -0400, CNY/VAstitcher wrote: i count 6 "f"s WitchyStitcher wrote: Gee, and I thought it was only because I 'm a special ed teacher. Actually, a good reader predicts and fills in, and that is why you can read it. A poor reader reads word-by-word with a great deal of effort going into the reading, and would not be able to read it. A while ago, a passage with the "count the instances of the letter "f" Most people can't do it because their minds don't process the word "OF" unless it contributes significantly to meaning. FINISHED FILES ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS |
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"WitchyStitcher" wrote in message ... Lots actually, too many to post here. I teach both the current-trend, balanced literacy - workshop model, shared reading, guided reading models. I also teach a strong phonics-based, developmental reading class. The long and short of it is that most students will learn to read no matter what method is used in what a former professor termed the "school of 'what's happening now'". However, some students - about 25% will learn to become fluent readers only with direct instruction in phonics and word structure. Yes, and I think that is what my friend was talking about. Both she and her son were mildly dyslexic. She thought his problems in reading could have been addressed with phonics, but his school did not teach reading this way. She worked with him and he ultimately did well, but there was a few years when it was a real struggle. Cindy |
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"Patti" wrote in message ... Well ... You've had a bit of reading practice since then g Boy, that's no kidding! Cindy |
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I failled the test!!!!!!
Carole Champlain, NY "WitchyStitcher" wrote in message ... Gee, and I thought it was only because I 'm a special ed teacher. Actually, a good reader predicts and fills in, and that is why you can read it. A poor reader reads word-by-word with a great deal of effort going into the reading, and would not be able to read it. A while ago, a passage with the "count the instances of the letter "f" Most people can't do it because their minds don't process the word "OF" unless it contributes significantly to meaning. FINISHED FILES ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS Linda PATCHogue, NY On 26 Oct 2005 09:47:50 -0700, "Mary in Washington" wrote: Thought I would put this on since there was a thread about spelling a while back. It is really interesting. Only smart people can read this.... Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! |
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How curious - I got 4, missing the first two OFs, but getting the last one.
Hanne in London WitchyStitcher wrote: 6 is correct - most people on their first reading only count 3 or 4 Linda PATCHogue, NY On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:58:09 -0400, CNY/VAstitcher wrote: i count 6 "f"s WitchyStitcher wrote: Gee, and I thought it was only because I 'm a special ed teacher. Actually, a good reader predicts and fills in, and that is why you can read it. A poor reader reads word-by-word with a great deal of effort going into the reading, and would not be able to read it. A while ago, a passage with the "count the instances of the letter "f" Most people can't do it because their minds don't process the word "OF" unless it contributes significantly to meaning. FINISHED FILES ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS |
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Spelling OT
Mary in Washington wrote:
Thought I would put this on since there was a thread about spelling a while back. It is really interesting. Only smart people can read this.... Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! I've seen this before... Without the spell checker, mine's much worse! Dyslexia has its compensations. -- Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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"teleflora" schreef in bericht news:N9Q7f.123$0M1.113@dukeread12... "Mary in Washington" wrote in message oups.com... Thought I would put this on since there was a thread about spelling a while back. It is really interesting. Only smart people can read this.... Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! I've seen this before and I think it is fascinating. I had a discussion a few years back with a friend who was bemoaning the fact that kids are not taught to read phonetically any more. She was of the opinion that phonics gives a better basis for learning. I really had no opinion one way or the other. I was taught to read phonetically back in the early 60's, but I have no trouble reading a paragraph such as this. Any thoughts? Oh yes PLENTY.. and you would not believe half of them.... Oh uh... wait.. you mean Any thoughts about this topic??? oops sorry...... FiederEls Cindy |
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