unual knit.

I have need for a fabric that has a different "thickness" depending on
the angle you are looking at it. For example, if the fabric is let to
drape vertically, the number of threads you look through when looking
up at the fabric is greater than the number of threads you look
through when looking down from above. What I require is a stitch that
has an effect similar to half drawn venetian blinds.

Does anyone know if such a stitch exists ?

Thanks,
Pete.

Presuming you mean horizontal venetian blinds and not the vertical ones...

How about garter stitching say three rows and stocking stitch 8 rows or a
combination to get the amount you width for each pleat you need, as this is
what it would look like but the garter rows would show too much, especially
if you did them on smaller needles and thus the tension would be smaller...

You'd have to play about to get it right.

higz Cher
"pete_dl" wrote in message
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I have need for a fabric that has a different "thickness" depending on
the angle you are looking at it. For example, if the fabric is let to
drape vertically, the number of threads you look through when looking
up at the fabric is greater than the number of threads you look
through when looking down from above. What I require is a stitch that
has an effect similar to half drawn venetian blinds.

Does anyone know if such a stitch exists ?

Thanks,
Pete.

In article ,
pete_dl wrote:
I have need for a fabric that has a different "thickness" depending on
the angle you are looking at it. For example, if the fabric is let to
drape vertically, the number of threads you look through when looking
up at the fabric is greater than the number of threads you look
through when looking down from above. What I require is a stitch that
has an effect similar to half drawn venetian blinds.

Does anyone know if such a stitch exists ?

I assume you want the thicker part uppermost, so it's solid looking
down but lacy looking up? Some of the "bell" shaped decorative
stitches might have that effect. They're usually done as an
edging but can be done as an allover stitch. Most stitch dictionaries
have one version or another of it.

=Tamar

Tamar
I must say i could SEE what she had in mind ,, must think about it a
bit more , it sounds more like a woven cloth to me than a knitted
one !!!
mirjam

wrote:

I must say i could SEE what she had in mind ,, must think about it a
bit more , it sounds more like a woven cloth to me than a knitted
one !!!


That's what I thought, too.

Thanks for all the replies.

The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind
which is near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is
opaque when viewed from below.

Following up Tamar's suggestion, I had a look for online stitch
dictionaries that mention a bell stitch. Unfortunately I could not
find it. Is there a definitive stitch dictionary I should be looking
at?

I must say i could SEE what she had in mind ,, must think about it a
bit more , it sounds more like a woven cloth to me than a knitted
one !!!

Could you explain why ? As a novice to this subject, I assumed that if
this cloth does exist, it would be knitted. This is because I read
that knitting has greatest potential for variety of shapes.

Having looked at some of the most common stitches, they all seem to be
vertically symmetrical in cross section. The “venetian blind” fabric
would have a vertical asymmetry in the cross section. This discourages
me as to the likelihood that such a stitch exists.

Thanks for any further comments.

Pete

pete_dl wrote:
Thanks for all the replies.

The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind
which is near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is
opaque when viewed from below.


It sounds like what you want to make is something on the line of a
honeycomb blind in that it is three-dimensional.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:22:42 -0700, pete_dl wrote:


Thanks for all the replies.

The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind which
is near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is opaque when
viewed from below.

Following up Tamar's suggestion, I had a look for online stitch
dictionaries that mention a bell stitch. Unfortunately I could not find
it. Is there a definitive stitch dictionary I should be looking at?

The site I use for information about stitches is at:
http://www.knittingfool.com/ where 1400 different knitting stitches are
displayed. You don't need to subscribe, you can just look at them all and
they give details of how to knit them. If you start at "A" and work your
way through you should be able to find something similar to the one you
want. It will take you quite some time!

Good luck in your search.


I must say i could SEE what she had in mind ,, must think about it a
bit more , it sounds more like a woven cloth to me than a knitted one
!!!

Could you explain why ? As a novice to this subject, I assumed that if
this cloth does exist, it would be knitted. This is because I read that
knitting has greatest potential for variety of shapes.

Having looked at some of the most common stitches, they all seem to be
vertically symmetrical in cross section. The "venetian blind" fabric
would have a vertical asymmetry in the cross section. This discourages me
as to the likelihood that such a stitch exists.

Thanks for any further comments.

Pete
--
Bernadette

On Jun 25, 1:22*am, pete_dl wrote:
Thanks for all the replies.

The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind
which is *near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is
opaque when viewed from below.

Following up Tamar's suggestion, I had a look for online stitch
dictionaries that mention a bell stitch. Unfortunately I could not
find it. Is there a definitive stitch dictionary I should be looking
at?

I must say i could SEE what she had in mind ,, must think about it a
bit more , it sounds more like a woven cloth to me than a knitted
one !!!

Could you explain why ? As a novice to this subject, I assumed that if
this cloth does exist, it would be knitted. This is because I read
that knitting has greatest potential for variety of shapes.

Having looked at some of the most common stitches, they all seem to be
vertically symmetrical in cross section. The “venetian blind” fabric
would have a vertical asymmetry in the cross section. This discourages
me as to the likelihood that such a stitch exists.

Thanks for any further comments.

Pete

Because you speak of Vertical and horizontal `stitches that cross`
each other , it Reads to me woven Warp and weft , which Cross each
other ,. knitted stitches LOOP one on top of each other and one beside
each other.
When you weave=cross the warp & weft , you can controll how many
threads you have under and how many on top , and thus have a Different
look from each angle.
mirjam

In article ,
pete_dl wrote:

Thanks for all the replies.

The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind
which is near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is
opaque when viewed from below.

Ah, I had it upside down. So in essence what you want would be
like a curtain for an upstairs window that would let in light
from above but block the view from below. Like roofing tiles
to shed the rain only aimed up instead of down.

Following up Tamar's suggestion, I had a look for online stitch
dictionaries that mention a bell stitch. Unfortunately I could
not find it. Is there a definitive stitch dictionary I should
be looking at?
snip

It took me a while to find it; I seem to have been over-optimistic.
The pattern I was thinking of is "Embossed Bell Motif" on
page 138 of _A Treasury of Knitting Patterns_ by Barbara Walker;
it's the first "treasury" of her series of books, which are readily
available (I think Schoolhouse Press is reprinting them now).
However, "Bells and Bell-Ropes" on the same page may be more useful.
Both of them have the openings downward and the fabric would have
to be used as if knitted top-down so as to have the openings upward.

Both of the above are fairly heavy patterns. If you want a lighter
fabric, there is another stitch in the same book that may be
more like what you want. On page 130 "Coral Knot Stitch" has a
relatively flat row, then a slight ridge, and right next to the
ridge is a row of small eyelets. Again, it would have to be
used with the stitch pattern knitted downward to have the slight
ridge block the small eyelets from the looking-upward direction.

If these don't work, you may want to look into crochet, to get
a thicker ridge and then pick up some more open stitches from
slightly below the edge to make the ridge project outward and
block the openings. It would be possible to do that with knitting
but much easier and faster with crochet.

=Tamar