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This may have been asked...
Does anyone know how old knitting a crocheting is? Carol In WI
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Carol !!!
Sorry i didn`t understand your question ? mirjam On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:28:15 GMT, "Carol In WI" wrote: Does anyone know how old knitting a crocheting is? Carol In WI |
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Carol In WI wrote: Does anyone know how old knitting a crocheting is? Knitting has been found in Egypt and, um, whatever they're calling Constantinople now, with Fatimid-style patterns; it goes back at least to the eleventh century AD. Some fragments may be as early as the tenth century AD. The finest are color-stranded patterned silk at gauges of 16 to 24 stitches per inch. The coarses are cotton tubes that are about modern cotton sock weight, done in blue and white. In between are lots and lots of blue and white cotton socks that are t-shirt weight or finer. I think one very tiny fragment of silk knitting was found stuck to the back of a pin in a Roman grave in France, dated to around 200 AD, but that is disputed. Anything earlier than that has always turned out to be done in nalbinding, which can look exactly like crossed-loop knitting but which often has increases made in a way that is impossible with knitting but very easy with nalbinding (dont by 'sewing' the stitches with an eyed needle). Crocheting seems to be much more recent. The earliest proven crochet seems to be just at the end of the 18th century, as an old woman was making slipstitch crochet undershirts for her husband in 1811. The slipstitch technique is known over much of Europe under various names and with some minor variations - Shepherd's Knitting, Bosnian Crochet, etc. Modern crochet seems to have begun in the 19th century. Crochet /might/ be earlier: the Ursuline nuns in Ireland say their branch of that organization was started by a woman who was sent to France in the 17th century to learn crocheting from the Ursulines there, but the authorities don't accept that version. Also, Professor Irena Turnau quoted someone else who reported that in the Wupper Valley in the 17th century or earlier there were eight women doing crocheting, but there is always a problem with translating needlework terms from various European languages: many of them don't distinguish clearly among various techniques, partly because knitting, crocheting, etc will often be combined in the same item. But the English-language authorities on the subject don't accept anything earlier than the 1811 reference for crochet. =Tamar |
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Mirjam - Just looking to see have far back these crafts are dated. Who may
have started it all, did it go back to the time of God or just what. Carol In WI |
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Hum ,,, Tamar ,,,,, Constantinople ,, is now Istanbul , and it is in
Turkey ,, the oldest knitting comes from Dura-Eoropus and this is in Morth East Syrya . |
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Oh I have loads of that materials , if i haven`t deleted it i will
send it ,, mirjam On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:09:28 GMT, "Carol In WI" wrote: Mirjam - Just looking to see have far back these crafts are dated. Who may have started it all, did it go back to the time of God or just what. Carol In WI |
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Oh, I'm convinced God is a crocheter!
And St. Peter does macrame, Thomas is into nalbinding and, oh yes, the BVM Mary knits! Mary Magdelene is a mean quilter, too. -- Kathleen Currently in Blountville TN Sure I can knit... hand me that knitting loom! But you know, the meaning of life really is in a granny square. |
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Carol In WI wrote:
Does anyone know how old knitting a crocheting is? Carol In WI Do a search for Ranee's "Arabian Knits" page and you'll find some fascinating material. Or search Google groups for previous discussions here! |
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"KATHLEEN HANCOCK" wrote: Oh, I'm convinced God is a crocheter! And St. Peter does macrame, Thomas is into nalbinding and, oh yes, the BVM Mary knits! Mary Magdelene is a mean quilter, too. you fogot kumihimo braiding, but I can tell you that was old hat, and done thousands of years ago, in South America as well as China.....good sure is a busy man Els -- hate spam not welcome |
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LOL! I'd like to think that! But that brings up a good question...is
there a patron saint for knitting, crocheting, spinning, etc? Allaya "KATHLEEN HANCOCK" wrote in message nk.net... Oh, I'm convinced God is a crocheter! And St. Peter does macrame, Thomas is into nalbinding and, oh yes, the BVM Mary knits! Mary Magdelene is a mean quilter, too. -- Kathleen Currently in Blountville TN Sure I can knit... hand me that knitting loom! But you know, the meaning of life really is in a granny square. |
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