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Mirjam - how are you?
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 3, 5:21*pm, wrote:
Bruce here is the part i responded to ,,, Elizabeth `s eye rolling to heaven that .. Excuse me? Please quote me exactly and leave your malignant interpretation out of it. I did not roll my eyes to heaven. I simply pointed out that Israel is often its own worst enemy in terms of public relations. And got a personal attack from you for my statement as well, even though you're never mean to people. Elizabeth |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 4, 1:51*am, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)"
wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 9:30 am, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)" wrote: Bruce here is the part i responded to ,,, Elizabeth `s eye rolling to heaven that ..about those...many who ..other wise would have been our suporters ,, we saw their support over those long years of Missile shooting ,,, Interesting that Abu Mazen and the egyptian , and many moderate Arab Countries , CALL the Hamas what it is a TERROR Regime supported by IRAN ,,,, which Threatens Us DAILY ,,,,, mirjam And the overwhelming responses have somehow been more effective? *I don't think so: they haven't stopped the attacks and they've ruined Israel's reputation among many who would otherwise have been supporters. I'm sorry Mirjam, all those multiple commas are somewhat confusing and I'm still not sure what you inferred. However, in my view the rockets fired by Hamas were not complained about by the people now condemning Israel's robust response. -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney UK http://claremont.island-blogging.co.uk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ok Bruce , here it is again ,,, copied and pasted here are Elizabeth`s words --------------------------- And the overwhelming responses have somehow been more effective? I don't think so: they haven't stopped the attacks and they've ruined Israel's reputation among many who would otherwise have been supporters. Elizabeth --------------------------- to which i reacted in my words . about her Not liking Israel before this ... And thank you for acknowledging that However, in my view the rockets fired by Hamas were not complained about by the people now condemning Israel's robust response. mirjam |
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Mirjam - how are you?
Elizabeth , nothing in your words would ever surprise me ..
It may come as a shock to you, Mirjam, but I did not spring fully formed to life on this newsgroup. *I have had many opinions in my life that were not expressed here. *My good opinion of Israel ended with the attacks on the camps at Shabra and Shatilla, but I did have one before that point. You of course would not admit it , But the Sabra and Shatila Masscare was done by Lebanese Christian fallangas , who murdered their Lebanese Muslim neighbours as a revenge for the murder of their leader Bashir Gumail . The hard truth is that To You Elizabeth , it is ok as long as a Jew gets killed , but a jew deffending himself is to you unthinkable ,, Mirjam, that is unkind and untrue. *And that from a woman who claims that she is never unkind. *Once again, you show yourself for the liar you are. Your usual way of calling me liar , about any fact that doesn`t fit your point of view ,, is known to me ,,,, Tahnk you for being yourself ,,, mirjam Elizabeth |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 3, 2:36*pm, lucretia borgia wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:32:47 -0800 (PST), opined: The hard truth is that To You Elizabeth , it is ok as long as a Jew gets killed , but a jew deffending himself is to you unthinkable ,, mirjam How do you manage to arrive at that ? *Elizabeth was talking about Israelis, they may or may not be Jews. Israel is a Jewish State , with 20% non Jewish minorities. But of course you knew that ,, The Rockets don`t make a difference between our citizens . Egypt , Saudia , and other Muslim countries ALL BLAME HAMAS for what is happening , Everybody called them to stop shooting at Israel ,,, mirjam |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 3, 11:49*pm, wrote:
Please don't mangle the attributions, Mirjam. The hard truth is that To You Elizabeth , it is ok as long as a Jew gets killed , but a jew deffending himself is to you unthinkable ,, Mirjam, that is unkind and untrue. *And that from a woman who claims that she is never unkind. *Once again, you show yourself for the liar you are. Your usual way of calling me liar , about any fact that doesn`t fit your point of view ,, is known to me ,, I'm sorry, but "it is ok as long as a Jew gets killed" is not a fact that doesn't fit my point of view. It isn't a fact at all. It is you slandering me, once again, for having a negative opinion of Israel's lack of restraint. Any time I voice an opinion about Israel with which you disagree, you call me an anti-Semite and then are offended when I point out your lies. I am not an anti-Semite. I am simply someone who thinks that Israel is heavy-handed and indiscriminate in its response to attacks. I think that about the US as well, but you don't call me anti-American. I made a very general statement about Israeli foreign policy and you immediately came back with a personal attack on me. You are the one who made this personal and about me, Mirjam. I said nothing bad about you until you attacked me. But it seems that you can't read anything I post without responding to me with your heinous lies. You are a twisted, bitter, evil person. Why are you incapable of discussing what is going on in your country without making personal comments about me? Am I shooting rockets at you? No. So why don't you save your venom for those who are? Elizabeth |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 3, 11:49*pm, wrote:
You of course would not admit it , But the Sabra and Shatila Masscare was done by Lebanese Christian fallangas , who murdered their Lebanese Muslim neighbours as a revenge for the murder of their leader Bashir Gumail . Why wouldn't I admit this? It's a known fact. But your own government found that Israel bore indirect responsibility for this massacre and that Ariel Sharon bore personal responsibility for it. Your saying that I would not admit it is just one more of your lies about me. Do you consider your compatriots who protested the massacres to be anti-Semites also? Elizabeth |
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Mirjam - how are you?
wrote in message ... On Jan 4, 1:51 am, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)" wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 9:30 am, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)" wrote: Bruce here is the part i responded to ,,, Elizabeth `s eye rolling to heaven that ..about those...many who ..other wise would have been our suporters ,, we saw their support over those long years of Missile shooting ,,, Interesting that Abu Mazen and the egyptian , and many moderate Arab Countries , CALL the Hamas what it is a TERROR Regime supported by IRAN ,,,, which Threatens Us DAILY ,,,,, mirjam And the overwhelming responses have somehow been more effective? I don't think so: they haven't stopped the attacks and they've ruined Israel's reputation among many who would otherwise have been supporters. I'm sorry Mirjam, all those multiple commas are somewhat confusing and I'm still not sure what you inferred. However, in my view the rockets fired by Hamas were not complained about by the people now condemning Israel's robust response. -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney UK http://claremont.island-blogging.co.uk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ok Bruce , here it is again ,,, copied and pasted here are Elizabeth`s words --------------------------- And the overwhelming responses have somehow been more effective? I don't think so: they haven't stopped the attacks and they've ruined Israel's reputation among many who would otherwise have been supporters. Elizabeth Sorry, Mirjam - for once in my life I agree with Elizabeth. That doesn`t mean that anyone is anti-Israel - just anti the completely OTT response. You`d have thought that with the experience of the holocaust they`d be a bit reluctant to be seen to be reacting in such a genocidal way. Surely they have a force similar to our SAS who could be far more effective using infiltration and destruction of Hamas sites without so much slaughter of innocent civilians? Or don`t ordinary Palestinians matter? Pat |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 4, 2:24*pm, "Pat P" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 4, 1:51 am, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)" wrote: wrote: On Jan 3, 9:30 am, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)" wrote: Bruce here is the part i responded to ,,, Elizabeth `s eye rolling to heaven that ..about those...many who ..other wise would have been our suporters ,, we saw their support over those long years of Missile shooting ,,, Interesting that Abu Mazen and the egyptian , and many moderate Arab Countries , CALL the Hamas what it is a TERROR Regime supported by IRAN ,,,, which Threatens Us DAILY ,,,,, mirjam And the overwhelming responses have somehow been more effective? I don't think so: they haven't stopped the attacks and they've ruined Israel's reputation among many who would otherwise have been supporters. I'm sorry Mirjam, all those multiple commas are somewhat confusing and I'm still not sure what you inferred. However, in my view the rockets fired by Hamas were not complained about by the people now condemning Israel's robust response. -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney UK http://claremont.island-blogging.co.uk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ok Bruce , here it is again ,,, copied and pasted here are Elizabeth`s words --------------------------- And the overwhelming responses have somehow been more effective? *I don't think so: they haven't stopped the attacks and they've ruined Israel's reputation among many who would otherwise have been supporters. Elizabeth Sorry, Mirjam - for once in my life I agree with Elizabeth. *That doesn`t mean that anyone is anti-Israel - just anti the completely OTT response. You`d have thought that with the experience of the holocaust they`d be a bit reluctant to be seen to be reacting in such a genocidal way. *Surely they have a force similar to our SAS who could be far more effective using infiltration and destruction of Hamas sites without so much slaughter of innocent civilians? Or don`t ordinary Palestinians matter? Pat- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well Pat , You can agrre or not agree with Elizabeth and every one else , the True matter is that HAMAS is hiding it`s weapons /missiles etc,, under houses/ schools/ musques etc,,,,, So that when they fire and fire , and than after a long time we want to take out that Shooting , [And we do call houses and tell the people to get out ,,,,,before shooting that missile launcher and or missile kept under the houses.. mirjam |
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Mirjam - how are you?
On Jan 4, 7:32*am, wrote:
On Jan 3, 11:49*pm, wrote: Please don't mangle the attributions, Mirjam. The hard truth is that To You Elizabeth , it is ok as long as a Jew gets killed , but a jew deffending himself is to you unthinkable ,, Mirjam, that is unkind and untrue. *And that from a woman who claims that she is never unkind. *Once again, you show yourself for the liar you are. Your usual way of calling me liar , about any fact that doesn`t fit your point of view ,, is known to me ,, I'm sorry, but "it is ok as long as a Jew gets killed" is not a fact that doesn't fit my point of view. *It isn't a fact at all. *It is you slandering me, once again, for having a negative opinion of Israel's lack of restraint. *Any time I voice an opinion about Israel with which you disagree, you call me an anti-Semite and then are offended when I point out your lies. *I am not an anti-Semite. *I am simply someone who thinks that Israel is heavy-handed and indiscriminate in its response to attacks. *I think that about the US as well, but you don't call me anti-American. I made a very general statement about Israeli foreign policy and you immediately came back with a personal attack on me. *You are the one who made this personal and about me, Mirjam. *I said nothing bad about you until you attacked me. *But it seems that you can't read anything I post without responding to me with your heinous lies. *You are a twisted, bitter, evil person. *Why are you incapable of discussing what is going on in your country without making personal comments about me? *Am I shooting rockets at you? *No. *So why don't you save your venom for those who are? Elizabeth You are the one that for years flamed attacked and called me liar , you have no clue about anything that goes on here , it is my country Our people our friends who uneder fitre , and being shot at ,, Not you ,, thus why should i discuss it with you ? do you have acces to those Terrorists Groups , can you influence them to stop shooting ROCKETS ,,, No ,,, I told you in the past when i posted , that a Terror act happened here did you ever CONDEMM those terrorists No !!! thus just now i have no reason to discuss the policy of my country with you ,, mirjam |
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