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On 8/20/08 1:01 PM, in article ,
"Lucille" lzoltynospam@now at comcast..net wrote: "Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message ... On 8/20/08 11:32 AM, in article , "Lucille" lzoltynospam@now at comcast..net wrote: "Karen C in California" wrote in message ... lewmew wrote: Ours starts tomorrow (earlier and earlier). I wish I could say we're 100% ready but the kids have hit the "I don't know what I need until I get to class" stage. And by the time the teacher makes the decision, the stuff is off sale (sigh). They used to do that to us, too. First day of school was always marked by an afternoon trip to the store -- some teachers wanted bound black-marble composition books, others wanted spiral notebooks or looseleaf, and they wanted them by tomorrow morning. Mom always muttered "what about the working mothers who can't do this?" (I assume they bought one of each in advance and returned the unneeded ones.) Around here, the teachers submit their lists to Admin, Admin transmits them to the stores. Walk into OfficeMax (and I'm assuming the other office supply stores, too), and there's a carousel with photocopies of dozens of school shopping lists: you grab the one for your school and your grade, and it lists all the teachers' preferences, so you just have to know if your kid has Mrs. Smith or Mrs. Jones. -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com That's what they do here too, but the parents claim that something essential is always left off the list and requires a last minute run to the store. Lucille Or the teacher changes his/her mind about something? Me - I'm still wondering why a particular/brand style pen is required, instead of black fine line.... C What do you suppose would happen to the kid who dared to be different? Maybe that's part of the problem in our schools, they don't encourage individuality. Don't get me started |
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lucretia borgia wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:38:43 -0400, Cheryl Isaak opined: That says to me that maybe they are hand in glove with whichever supply place. Especially if they ask for specific felt pens etc. Why "rolling ball gel pens"... C Perhaps only available at one specific store ? I could see if for instance Staples (just to pick a name) offered teachers, 'for every kid who fills out your list here we will supply you with x number of lists full for your class' but if teachers are getting kickbacks, I would feel offended. Kids today bash up against far too much commercialism, we don't need it in connection with learning. These school supplies seem to be an exercise in consumerism. Can't speak for other areas, but if a particular brand or type is specified for our school supplies, it's for a reason. In some of the kindergarten classes supplies are pooled, so they want everything to be the same so that there aren't arguments over who gets which of the items. Some are specific about crayons because the colors aren't always true in some brands, so they specify a brand to make sure that the assignments that say "color all the triangles blue" come back with all the triangles looking blue. If they specify a particular type of pen, it's because they had bad experiences with some other sort of pen, and so on. Most will say "marble composition books" and don't care about color, unless there's some reason uniform colors are needed. I think the only time we've had a particular color specified was one where the composition books were used for a collaborative project. The others didn't care what color. Anyway, it may well be the case that some of these are an excess of consumerism, but while I've heard plenty of people complain at our school, I know from having talked to the teachers that there's a reason for every requirement on the list. One might argue about whether all the reasons are sufficient justification, but there's a reason for each decision and it's nothing to do with promoting particular brands or stores. (And our school has supply lists in every local store that sells a lot of school supplies that will make the lists available--not all stores do.) Best wishes, Ericka |
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Cheryl Isaak wrote:
On 8/20/08 12:01 PM, in article , "lewmew" wrote: They have those lists here for elementary school and middle school. JHS and up, it's wait until you get to class. Many of the grade schools here discourage/forbid "special" notebooks and folders and specifically say "4 plain pocket red folders" for much the reason you cite - everything is thrown into a pool and used by all. I agree teachers shouldn't have to spend out of their own pockets, but sometimes some of the stuff is a bit ridiculous - one year we were expected to provide two bottles of hand sanitizer. What happened to soap and water? Linda Can't have bathroom monitors to remind the little darlings to wash their hands. More like not enough time to send every kid who needs to wash his or her hands to the bathroom (with a partner), and not enough time to stand and wait by the bathroom for everyone to go in and wash hands before lunch. Too many kids in the hallways and missing out on classwork, so they keep the hand sanitizer in the room. (Not all classrooms have sinks.) Best wishes, Ericka |
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"Ericka Kammerer" wrote in message . .. Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 8/20/08 12:01 PM, in article , "lewmew" wrote: They have those lists here for elementary school and middle school. JHS and up, it's wait until you get to class. Many of the grade schools here discourage/forbid "special" notebooks and folders and specifically say "4 plain pocket red folders" for much the reason you cite - everything is thrown into a pool and used by all. I agree teachers shouldn't have to spend out of their own pockets, but sometimes some of the stuff is a bit ridiculous - one year we were expected to provide two bottles of hand sanitizer. What happened to soap and water? Linda Can't have bathroom monitors to remind the little darlings to wash their hands. More like not enough time to send every kid who needs to wash his or her hands to the bathroom (with a partner), and not enough time to stand and wait by the bathroom for everyone to go in and wash hands before lunch. Too many kids in the hallways and missing out on classwork, so they keep the hand sanitizer in the room. (Not all classrooms have sinks.) Best wishes, Ericka Gee, I wonder how I managed to grow up without hand sanitizers in the classroom. I went to elementary school during WW2 and we had so many kids in the class that we had to share desks and seats in many classes. My husband, whose last name started with a Z, complained that all through his early grades he often had no desk of his own and used to lean on the radiator cover in some classrooms because they sat you in alphabetical order. I will venture a guess that we were encouraged to wash our hands in the sinks in the bathrooms and we survived those germs without too much of a problem. How things change. I'm not saying it's better or worse now, just different. Lucille |
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I'm not sure if it still applies today but when I started at Grammar
School in 1955 it was compulsory to wear school uniform and the "approved" uniform was only available from one particular shop. My grandparents (who brought me up) bought the unique items - school badge for blazer, school cap, school tie - from that shop but got everything else - blazer, trousers, shirts in the same colour and the same style (well, almost) - at another shop for about half the price. -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney UK http://preview.tinyurl.com/3b54af |
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"Karen C in California" wrote Around here, the teachers submit their lists to Admin, Admin transmits them to the stores. Walk into OfficeMax (and I'm assuming the other office supply stores, too), and there's a carousel with photocopies of dozens of school shopping lists: you grab the one for your school and your grade, and it lists all the teachers' preferences, so you just have to know if your kid has Mrs. Smith or Mrs. Jones. At the bookstore, I had at least one mum suggest we need to stage a Back To School Shopping Cocktail Night for her. This was prompted by my finding out for her through our computer that the particular atlas her kid's teacher had specified and which she had already been to 2 stores trying to find was out of print. Perhaps the teacher had just been putting down the same thing for years--but never bothered to check. I also had a mum shopping for books for a University English class for her daughter, and again, 2 out of 3 were no longer in print. These mums were both shopping with detailed lists from specific teachers-- Dawne |
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"lucretia borgia" wrote Those hand sanitizers and all those antibacterial wipes for counters are landing us in a mess. What happened to having to eat a peck of dirt in your lifetime ? I don't disagree with you, and don't use antibacterial anything at home, but I do use a hand sanitizer at work, since I have to use a public washroom, use computer keyboards that dozens of people use daily, and sometimes handle money. My difficulty is that many of the bathroom soaps irritate my skin allergies, especially if I touch my face, so I use the gels. They are also somewhat less drying than the annoying hot air blowers that so many bathrooms have instead of paper towels. Dawne |
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"Dawne Peterson" wrote in message el... "lucretia borgia" wrote Those hand sanitizers and all those antibacterial wipes for counters are landing us in a mess. What happened to having to eat a peck of dirt in your lifetime ? I don't disagree with you, and don't use antibacterial anything at home, but I do use a hand sanitizer at work, since I have to use a public washroom, use computer keyboards that dozens of people use daily, and sometimes handle money. My difficulty is that many of the bathroom soaps irritate my skin allergies, especially if I touch my face, so I use the gels. They are also somewhat less drying than the annoying hot air blowers that so many bathrooms have instead of paper towels. Dawne I use the hand sanitizers too. As a matter of fact I keep one in my car but more for convenience then for being germ free. Being germ free has caused more problems then being dirty because today's kids don't build up a healthy immunity to what should be everyday, non dangerous germs. L |
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