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has anyone added a machine to thier hand quilting frame?
Okay, up front, no, I haven't done this. But since you've had no replies so
far, I decided to throw in my two cents. I rather suspect that this is not a feasible thing to accomlish. The large hand quilting frames such as the "easy build", are specifically engineered to do hand quilting. Their only "mission" so to speak, is to hold the three layers of the quilt in place while you quilt them. If you compare one to a picture of any of the machine quilting frames, you'll see right off that there is a lot more basic framing involved, because now you not only need to support the quilt, you also have to provide a mechanism which will not only support, but also allow a pretty much unlimited range of motion, for your machine. Quite an engineering feat. Becky "Jan" wrote in message k.net... Inquiring minds (ok.. mind) wants to know... has anyone adapted thier current hand quilting frame to occasionally machine quilt on it when finished counts over enjoying the journey? Already have the hinterberg easy build, just keep thinking you should be able to adapt it to a machine occassionally when the need arises...... Jan |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:07:57 GMT, Jan
wrote: "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in Actually, there are several that look identical to what I have and simply have a table that supports a rolling platform and a normal household machine, so put a banquet table there and a rolling platform and you have some tweaking..... not that much of an engineering feat.. Jan I haven't done it yet but I can't help thinking about it. I'm thinking the same PVC tube set up that I saw used with the Flynn frame would also work with an old fashioned four board hanging hand quilting frame. It seems like you would just have to sandwich it on the regular frame, roll it up, remove the end boards, slide single layer of quilt sandwich under needle, replace the end boards with shorter end boards to keep the span of quilt taut, and support the roll of quilt beside the machine with a few lengths of PVC pipe rolling on a table top. I'm not sure how much tweaking it would need for free motion, but it should work for gridding. Of course there would still be the problem of having a room long enough for the length of the frame to move both in front of and behind the sewing machine, but I have a long hallway I could use. I can see how it would work in my mind, but sometimes real life refuses to work the same way so I have a sneaking suspicion that it's just not that simple. Debra in VA |
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Out of curiosity, I went to the Hinterburg site, and had a look at their
machine quilting system. The machine part of the set up is an integral part of the entire unit. Still curious, I emailed them and inquired about the feasibility of simply adding a banguet table with a rolling platform to interact with the Easy Build Frame, and their reply was they couldn't envision how this setup could be made to work, and that any sort of attempted alteration along these lines would void the warrenty on the Easy Build. An easier solution to the occasional quilt you need to get done in a hurry is to use one of the many "machne quilt as you go" methods. My favorite is in Sharon Pederson's book, Reversible Quilts. Makes quilts of virtualy any size a snap. Becky "Jan" wrote in message nk.net... "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in Actually, there are several that look identical to what I have and simply have a table that supports a rolling platform and a normal household machine, so put a banquet table there and a rolling platform and you have some tweaking..... not that much of an engineering feat.. Jan : Okay, up front, no, I haven't done this. But since you've had no replies so far, I decided to throw in my two cents. I rather suspect that this is not a feasible thing to accomlish. The large hand quilting frames such as the "easy build", are specifically engineered to do hand quilting. Their only "mission" so to speak, is to hold the three layers of the quilt in place while you quilt them. If you compare one to a picture of any of the machine quilting frames, you'll see right off that there is a lot more basic framing involved, because now you not only need to support the quilt, you also have to provide a mechanism which will not only support, but also allow a pretty much unlimited range of motion, for your machine. Quite an engineering feat. Becky "Jan" wrote in message k.net... Inquiring minds (ok.. mind) wants to know... has anyone adapted thier current hand quilting frame to occasionally machine quilt on it when finished counts over enjoying the journey? Already have the hinterberg easy build, just keep thinking you should be able to adapt it to a machine occassionally when the need arises...... Jan |
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you got that right!!
-- http://community.webshots.com/user/snigdibbly SNIGDIBBLY ~e~ " / \ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/snigdibbly. http://www.ebaystores.com/snigdibbly...ox&refid=store "Jan" wrote in message nk.net... Did you really expect them to say yeah!! Don't buy another frame from us.... lol Jan "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in : Out of curiosity, I went to the Hinterburg site, and had a look at their machine quilting system. The machine part of the set up is an integral part of the entire unit. Still curious, I emailed them and inquired about the feasibility of simply adding a banguet table with a rolling platform to interact with the Easy Build Frame, and their reply was they couldn't envision how this setup could be made to work, and that any sort of attempted alteration along these lines would void the warrenty on the Easy Build. An easier solution to the occasional quilt you need to get done in a hurry is to use one of the many "machne quilt as you go" methods. My favorite is in Sharon Pederson's book, Reversible Quilts. Makes quilts of virtualy any size a snap. Becky "Jan" wrote in message nk.net... "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in Actually, there are several that look identical to what I have and simply have a table that supports a rolling platform and a normal household machine, so put a banquet table there and a rolling platform and you have some tweaking..... not that much of an engineering feat.. Jan : Okay, up front, no, I haven't done this. But since you've had no replies so far, I decided to throw in my two cents. I rather suspect that this is not a feasible thing to accomlish. The large hand quilting frames such as the "easy build", are specifically engineered to do hand quilting. Their only "mission" so to speak, is to hold the three layers of the quilt in place while you quilt them. If you compare one to a picture of any of the machine quilting frames, you'll see right off that there is a lot more basic framing involved, because now you not only need to support the quilt, you also have to provide a mechanism which will not only support, but also allow a pretty much unlimited range of motion, for your machine. Quite an engineering feat. Becky "Jan" wrote in message k.net... Inquiring minds (ok.. mind) wants to know... has anyone adapted thier current hand quilting frame to occasionally machine quilt on it when finished counts over enjoying the journey? Already have the hinterberg easy build, just keep thinking you should be able to adapt it to a machine occassionally when the need arises...... Jan |
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Actually, since this is Hinterburg we are talking about, I would guess that
if it were an easy conversion from the Easy Build to a machine setup, they would be selling the kit to do the conversion. Remember, they have already provided an extremely (in my opinion) cost effective option to their ready-built frames in the Easy Build. No reason to think they wouldn't take that one step farther. This is, afterall, not a giant, mega coorporation, but a family owned and operated company, whose customer service record, at least in my experience, and that of others I have spoken with, is absolutely impeccable. Becky "Jan" wrote in message nk.net... Did you really expect them to say yeah!! Don't buy another frame from us.... lol Jan "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in : Out of curiosity, I went to the Hinterburg site, and had a look at their machine quilting system. The machine part of the set up is an integral part of the entire unit. Still curious, I emailed them and inquired about the feasibility of simply adding a banguet table with a rolling platform to interact with the Easy Build Frame, and their reply was they couldn't envision how this setup could be made to work, and that any sort of attempted alteration along these lines would void the warrenty on the Easy Build. An easier solution to the occasional quilt you need to get done in a hurry is to use one of the many "machne quilt as you go" methods. My favorite is in Sharon Pederson's book, Reversible Quilts. Makes quilts of virtualy any size a snap. Becky "Jan" wrote in message nk.net... "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in Actually, there are several that look identical to what I have and simply have a table that supports a rolling platform and a normal household machine, so put a banquet table there and a rolling platform and you have some tweaking..... not that much of an engineering feat.. Jan : Okay, up front, no, I haven't done this. But since you've had no replies so far, I decided to throw in my two cents. I rather suspect that this is not a feasible thing to accomlish. The large hand quilting frames such as the "easy build", are specifically engineered to do hand quilting. Their only "mission" so to speak, is to hold the three layers of the quilt in place while you quilt them. If you compare one to a picture of any of the machine quilting frames, you'll see right off that there is a lot more basic framing involved, because now you not only need to support the quilt, you also have to provide a mechanism which will not only support, but also allow a pretty much unlimited range of motion, for your machine. Quite an engineering feat. Becky "Jan" wrote in message k.net... Inquiring minds (ok.. mind) wants to know... has anyone adapted thier current hand quilting frame to occasionally machine quilt on it when finished counts over enjoying the journey? Already have the hinterberg easy build, just keep thinking you should be able to adapt it to a machine occassionally when the need arises...... Jan |
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Well, actually , I did try to offer something constructive, for peole who
want occassionally want to try machine quilting, quilt as you go in an easy, doable technique. And sorry, but you seem to me to be the who is threatened in some manner. Besides being a quilter, I have been a wood worker for a number of years. That's the main reason I felt qualified to offer an opinion in the first place. You were the who who decided to take it to a level of meanness with your reply above that you ended "lol". And yes, I most certainly did contact Hintenburg, why on earth would I did I did if I hadn't. You do have rather a strang attitude, it seems to me. "Either help or get out of my way" ???? Seems to me that offering the opinion that what you want to accomplish is very probably not feasible is a legitimate responce to your inquiry. Sounds to me like you have a real bad case of "If you don't like the answer to your question, shoot the messenger". You asked for opinions, I offered one when it appeared that no one else was going to. Sorry I tried to help. Becky wrote in message ink.net... Nobody is debating the quality of Hinterberg in any way... they make wonderful products.... can't say the same of your attitude... if you don't want to do it... don't.... but have you ever heard help or get out of my way? Offer up something constructive.... or just ignore the thread..... but ask yourself why you feel so threatened by my wanting to do this for myself with my own materials and why you are so opposed to it? It hurts you in no way for me to do this.. and void a warranty?? lol.. what warranty?? They offer blue prints... you supply everything.... you really think I believe you contacted them?? And that was their response????? Either ignore, or offer up something contstructive...... thanks... and yup... you are going in my kill file... Jan "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in : Actually, since this is Hinterburg we are talking about, I would guess that if it were an easy conversion from the Easy Build to a machine setup, they would be selling the kit to do the conversion. Remember, they have already provided an extremely (in my opinion) cost effective option to their ready-built frames in the Easy Build. No reason to think they wouldn't take that one step farther. This is, afterall, not a giant, mega coorporation, but a family owned and operated company, whose customer service record, at least in my experience, and that of others I have spoken with, is absolutely impeccable. Becky "Jan" wrote in message nk.net... Did you really expect them to say yeah!! Don't buy another frame from us.... lol Jan "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in : Out of curiosity, I went to the Hinterburg site, and had a look at their machine quilting system. The machine part of the set up is an integral part of the entire unit. Still curious, I emailed them and inquired about the feasibility of simply adding a banguet table with a rolling platform to interact with the Easy Build Frame, and their reply was they couldn't envision how this setup could be made to work, and that any sort of attempted alteration along these lines would void the warrenty on the Easy Build. An easier solution to the occasional quilt you need to get done in a hurry is to use one of the many "machne quilt as you go" methods. My favorite is in Sharon Pederson's book, Reversible Quilts. Makes quilts of virtualy any size a snap. Becky "Jan" wrote in message nk.net... "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in Actually, there are several that look identical to what I have and simply have a table that supports a rolling platform and a normal household machine, so put a banquet table there and a rolling platform and you have some tweaking..... not that much of an engineering feat.. Jan : Okay, up front, no, I haven't done this. But since you've had no replies so far, I decided to throw in my two cents. I rather suspect that this is not a feasible thing to accomlish. The large hand quilting frames such as the "easy build", are specifically engineered to do hand quilting. Their only "mission" so to speak, is to hold the three layers of the quilt in place while you quilt them. If you compare one to a picture of any of the machine quilting frames, you'll see right off that there is a lot more basic framing involved, because now you not only need to support the quilt, you also have to provide a mechanism which will not only support, but also allow a pretty much unlimited range of motion, for your machine. Quite an engineering feat. Becky "Jan" wrote in message k.net... Inquiring minds (ok.. mind) wants to know... has anyone adapted thier current hand quilting frame to occasionally machine quilt on it when finished counts over enjoying the journey? Already have the hinterberg easy build, just keep thinking you should be able to adapt it to a machine occassionally when the need arises...... Jan |
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I appreciated your answer and am glad you contacted the Hinterberg
people to get their response. Ive often wondered if a do it yourself approach to making my own system made sense. Thanks to your research I now believe that making a machine quilting frame from a hand quilting one of that type wouldnt work well. Well, unless one had a lot more construction ability than I have. Thank you. Diana Becky wrote: Well, actually , I did try to offer something constructive, for peole who want occassionally want to try machine quilting, quilt as you go in an easy, doable technique. And sorry, but you seem to me to be the who is threatened in some manner. Besides being a quilter, I have been a wood worker for a number of years. That's the main reason I felt qualified to offer an opinion in the first place. You were the who who decided to take it to a level of meanness with your reply above that you ended "lol". And yes, I most certainly did contact Hintenburg, why on earth would I did I did if I hadn't. You do have rather a strang attitude, it seems to me. "Either help or get out of my way" ???? Seems to me that offering the opinion that what you want to accomplish is very probably not feasible is a legitimate responce to your inquiry. Sounds to me like you have a real bad case of "If you don't like the answer to your question, shoot the messenger". You asked for opinions, I offered one when it appeared that no one else was going to. Sorry I tried to help. Becky wrote in message ink.net... Nobody is debating the quality of Hinterberg in any way... they make wonderful products.... can't say the same of your attitude... if you don't want to do it... don't.... but have you ever heard help or get out of my way? Offer up something constructive.... or just ignore the thread..... but ask yourself why you feel so threatened by my wanting to do this for myself with my own materials and why you are so opposed to it? It hurts you in no way for me to do this.. and void a warranty?? lol.. what warranty?? They offer blue prints... you supply everything.... you really think I believe you contacted them?? And that was their response????? Either ignore, or offer up something contstructive...... thanks... and yup... you are going in my kill file... Jan "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in : Actually, since this is Hinterburg we are talking about, I would guess that if it were an easy conversion from the Easy Build to a machine setup, they would be selling the kit to do the conversion. Remember, they have already provided an extremely (in my opinion) cost effective option to their ready-built frames in the Easy Build. No reason to think they wouldn't take that one step farther. This is, afterall, not a giant, mega coorporation, but a family owned and operated company, whose customer service record, at least in my experience, and that of others I have spoken with, is absolutely impeccable. Becky "Jan" wrote in message hlink.net... Did you really expect them to say yeah!! Don't buy another frame from us.... lol Jan "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in : Out of curiosity, I went to the Hinterburg site, and had a look at their machine quilting system. The machine part of the set up is an integral part of the entire unit. Still curious, I emailed them and inquired about the feasibility of simply adding a banguet table with a rolling platform to interact with the Easy Build Frame, and their reply was they couldn't envision how this setup could be made to work, and that any sort of attempted alteration along these lines would void the warrenty on the Easy Build. An easier solution to the occasional quilt you need to get done in a hurry is to use one of the many "machne quilt as you go" methods. My favorite is in Sharon Pederson's book, Reversible Quilts. Makes quilts of virtualy any size a snap. Becky "Jan" wrote in message rthlink.net... "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in Actually, there are several that look identical to what I have and simply have a table that supports a rolling platform and a normal household machine, so put a banquet table there and a rolling platform and you have some tweaking..... not that much of an engineering feat.. Jan : Okay, up front, no, I haven't done this. But since you've had no replies so far, I decided to throw in my two cents. I rather suspect that this is not a feasible thing to accomlish. The large hand quilting frames such as the "easy build", are specifically engineered to do hand quilting. Their only "mission" so to speak, is to hold the three layers of the quilt in place while you quilt them. If you compare one to a picture of any of the machine quilting frames, you'll see right off that there is a lot more basic framing involved, because now you not only need to support the quilt, you also have to provide a mechanism which will not only support, but also allow a pretty much unlimited range of motion, for your machine. Quite an engineering feat. Becky "Jan" wrote in message arthlink.net... Inquiring minds (ok.. mind) wants to know... has anyone adapted thier current hand quilting frame to occasionally machine quilt on it when finished counts over enjoying the journey? Already have the hinterberg easy build, just keep thinking you should be able to adapt it to a machine occassionally when the need arises...... Jan |
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My thoughts, exactly, Diana. Thank you Becky for your research and
thoughts which I am sure we have all found useful. I find machine quilting daunting, even with a machine with an extra wide harp, and usually chicken out of doing the whole thing at once and do quilt-as-you-go. I am just in the process of frog-stitching part of my Trial-Garden quilt which is going to be machine quilted as a whole (its only lap size) if it kills me. (that is why its called trial - the real garden quilt has yet to appear!). FMQ is another story all together - and long-arms quilting I am saving for another life! (the s was an error, but I rather like it!) How are you getting on with your new baby Mrs. Snigdibbley? Hugs all round -- Sally at the Seaside~~~~~~~ http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:20:18 -0500, Diana Curtis wrote: I appreciated your answer and am glad you contacted the Hinterberg people to get their response. Ive often wondered if a do it yourself approach to making my own system made sense. Thanks to your research I now believe that making a machine quilting frame from a hand quilting one of that type wouldnt work well. Well, unless one had a lot more construction ability than I have. Thank you. Diana Becky wrote: Well, actually , I did try to offer something constructive, for peole who want occassionally want to try machine quilting, quilt as you go in an easy, doable technique. And sorry, but you seem to me to be the who is threatened in some manner. Besides being a quilter, I have been a wood worker for a number of years. That's the main reason I felt qualified to offer an opinion in the first place. You were the who who decided to take it to a level of meanness with your reply above that you ended "lol". And yes, I most certainly did contact Hintenburg, why on earth would I did I did if I hadn't. You do have rather a strang attitude, it seems to me. "Either help or get out of my way" ???? Seems to me that offering the opinion that what you want to accomplish is very probably not feasible is a legitimate responce to your inquiry. Sounds to me like you have a real bad case of "If you don't like the answer to your question, shoot the messenger". You asked for opinions, I offered one when it appeared that no one else was going to. Sorry I tried to help. Becky wrote in message ink.net... Nobody is debating the quality of Hinterberg in any way... they make wonderful products.... can't say the same of your attitude... if you don't want to do it... don't.... but have you ever heard help or get out of my way? Offer up something constructive.... or just ignore the thread..... but ask yourself why you feel so threatened by my wanting to do this for myself with my own materials and why you are so opposed to it? It hurts you in no way for me to do this.. and void a warranty?? lol.. what warranty?? They offer blue prints... you supply everything.... you really think I believe you contacted them?? And that was their response????? Either ignore, or offer up something contstructive...... thanks... and yup... you are going in my kill file... Jan "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in : Actually, since this is Hinterburg we are talking about, I would guess that if it were an easy conversion from the Easy Build to a machine setup, they would be selling the kit to do the conversion. Remember, they have already provided an extremely (in my opinion) cost effective option to their ready-built frames in the Easy Build. No reason to think they wouldn't take that one step farther. This is, afterall, not a giant, mega coorporation, but a family owned and operated company, whose customer service record, at least in my experience, and that of others I have spoken with, is absolutely impeccable. Becky "Jan" wrote in message thlink.net... Did you really expect them to say yeah!! Don't buy another frame from us.... lol Jan "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in : Out of curiosity, I went to the Hinterburg site, and had a look at their machine quilting system. The machine part of the set up is an integral part of the entire unit. Still curious, I emailed them and inquired about the feasibility of simply adding a banguet table with a rolling platform to interact with the Easy Build Frame, and their reply was they couldn't envision how this setup could be made to work, and that any sort of attempted alteration along these lines would void the warrenty on the Easy Build. An easier solution to the occasional quilt you need to get done in a hurry is to use one of the many "machne quilt as you go" methods. My favorite is in Sharon Pederson's book, Reversible Quilts. Makes quilts of virtualy any size a snap. Becky "Jan" wrote in message arthlink.net... "Becky" bbkelher@remove spamaculink.net wrote in Actually, there are several that look identical to what I have and simply have a table that supports a rolling platform and a normal household machine, so put a banquet table there and a rolling platform and you have some tweaking..... not that much of an engineering feat.. Jan : Okay, up front, no, I haven't done this. But since you've had no replies so far, I decided to throw in my two cents. I rather suspect that this is not a feasible thing to accomlish. The large hand quilting frames such as the "easy build", are specifically engineered to do hand quilting. Their only "mission" so to speak, is to hold the three layers of the quilt in place while you quilt them. If you compare one to a picture of any of the machine quilting frames, you'll see right off that there is a lot more basic framing involved, because now you not only need to support the quilt, you also have to provide a mechanism which will not only support, but also allow a pretty much unlimited range of motion, for your machine. Quite an engineering feat. Becky "Jan" wrote in message . earthlink.net... Inquiring minds (ok.. mind) wants to know... has anyone adapted thier current hand quilting frame to occasionally machine quilt on it when finished counts over enjoying the journey? Already have the hinterberg easy build, just keep thinking you should be able to adapt it to a machine occassionally when the need arises...... Jan |
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Becky, Your information was useful to me, and I appreciate your
report on the Hintenburg products. Hope to hear from you again soon. PAT in VA/USA Becky wrote: (CUT for Space) Well, actually , I did try to offer something constructive, for peole who want occassionally want to try machine quilting, quilt as you go in an easy, doable technique. Besides being a quilter, I have been a wood worker for a number of years. That's the main reason I felt qualified to offer an opinion in the first place. And yes, I most certainly did contact Hintenburg, why on earth would I did I did if I hadn't. |
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