questions-Hill Tribe, & vermeil

Is Hill Tribe silver made in Bali? What's the difference between "Bali",
and "Hill Tribe"?

Recently I read a bead store advertisement that said "Museum quality
Vermeil". What is that all about? As I understand, vermeil is gold plated
over silver; what would a museum care about it?? And, one more about
vermeil, is it acceptable in nicer jewelry? For example, I wouldn't use
basemetal beadcaps on a $40 lampworked pendant, but is vermeil ok for that
sort of thing?

And, lastly, please forgive me if I've misspelled vermeil through this whole
thing ;o) It doesn't look right ANY way I type it! LOL

--
Kyla

Real Bali silver is made in Bali, is hand made, and features a style made up
of dots and wire applied to silver beads (all sterling). "Bali-style silver"
is the same style but made elsewhere. Some are handmade and just as good,
some is cast and not nearly as good quality.

Hill Tribe Silver is hand made by the Hill Tribe, which I believe is in
Cambodia. The style is quite different too, using sheets of metal and wire
to make flowers, leaves, bugs, etc. Also the silver is often a little lower
in silver content (90%) than Sterling).

Gold filled is a layer of gold (usually 14K to 18K so it's more durable),
over brass.

Vermeil is a thicker than usual plating of gold, and it's over sterling
silver. The gold is 14K to 24K; unfortunately the higher carat gold wears
off faster. The plating is thicker than the usual layer of gold plating,
but still just a fraction of the layer in gold filled.

I don't really know what "museum quality vermeil" means, but I would guess
it means it has a higher carat gold plating.

I personally am unwilling to use vermeil. It's still just gold plate, and
when it wears it shows the silver under it. Some people here use the little
spacers between beads that are bigger so it won't be subject to wear.

Tina


"Kyla" wrote in message
. ..
Is Hill Tribe silver made in Bali? What's the difference between "Bali",
and "Hill Tribe"?

Recently I read a bead store advertisement that said "Museum quality
Vermeil". What is that all about? As I understand, vermeil is gold
plated
over silver; what would a museum care about it?? And, one more about
vermeil, is it acceptable in nicer jewelry? For example, I wouldn't use
basemetal beadcaps on a $40 lampworked pendant, but is vermeil ok for that
sort of thing?

And, lastly, please forgive me if I've misspelled vermeil through this
whole
thing ;o) It doesn't look right ANY way I type it! LOL

--
Kyla

What she said, but I do use vermeil just not were they will get a lot of
wear. They are ok in dangle earrings etc.
Roxan
"Christina Peterson" wrote in message
news:1071988322.252383@prawn...
Real Bali silver is made in Bali, is hand made, and features a style made
up
of dots and wire applied to silver beads (all sterling). "Bali-style
silver"
is the same style but made elsewhere. Some are handmade and just as good,
some is cast and not nearly as good quality.

Hill Tribe Silver is hand made by the Hill Tribe, which I believe is in
Cambodia. The style is quite different too, using sheets of metal and
wire
to make flowers, leaves, bugs, etc. Also the silver is often a little
lower
in silver content (90%) than Sterling).

Gold filled is a layer of gold (usually 14K to 18K so it's more durable),
over brass.

Vermeil is a thicker than usual plating of gold, and it's over sterling
silver. The gold is 14K to 24K; unfortunately the higher carat gold wears
off faster. The plating is thicker than the usual layer of gold plating,
but still just a fraction of the layer in gold filled.

I don't really know what "museum quality vermeil" means, but I would guess
it means it has a higher carat gold plating.

I personally am unwilling to use vermeil. It's still just gold plate, and
when it wears it shows the silver under it. Some people here use the
little
spacers between beads that are bigger so it won't be subject to wear.

Tina


"Kyla" wrote in message
. ..
Is Hill Tribe silver made in Bali? What's the difference between
"Bali",
and "Hill Tribe"?

Recently I read a bead store advertisement that said "Museum quality
Vermeil". What is that all about? As I understand, vermeil is gold
plated
over silver; what would a museum care about it?? And, one more about
vermeil, is it acceptable in nicer jewelry? For example, I wouldn't use
basemetal beadcaps on a $40 lampworked pendant, but is vermeil ok for
that
sort of thing?

And, lastly, please forgive me if I've misspelled vermeil through this
whole
thing ;o) It doesn't look right ANY way I type it! LOL

--
Kyla

In article , "Kyla"
writes:

What's the difference between "Bali",
and "Hill Tribe"?

"Bali", and "Bali-style", are beads and such with applied design elements, like
granulation and thin wire. Cheaper imitation Bali has a similar design
appearance, but is generally made in molds rather than applied. With the hand
made versions, one can see "undercuts" in the design elements; the molded
versions do not have them.

"Hill Tribe" silver that I've seen comes from Thailand (the "Hill Tribe" people
span more than one modern political territory, though). It appears to be made
mostly of silver sheet, cut and hammered into shape. Besides the shaping, there
are stamped design elements in many pieces.
Kaytee
"Simplexities" on
www.eclecticbeadery.com
http://www.rubylane.com/shops/simplexities

Christina Peterson wrote:

Gold filled is a layer of gold (usually 14K to 18K so it's more
durable), over brass.

Vermeil is a thicker than usual plating of gold, and it's over
sterling silver. The gold is 14K to 24K; unfortunately the higher
carat gold wears off faster. The plating is thicker than the usual
layer of gold plating, but still just a fraction of the layer in gold
filled.

Thanks Tina. I am making my mum's wedding jewellery (on a plummy red/gold
theme) and was wondering which was the higher quality.