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Korean Coat/Kimono XStitch Pattern?
I have a number of kimono counted cross-stitch patterns, but they are
Japanese I believe. I do know that women's clothing in Korea is different, a full skirt with a Hanbok (spelling) bolero-type jacket/blouse on top. But, there also is a kimono/coat worn by women (at least if what I am finding on Korean web sites is truly representative, however there are few examples). There is an "Elegant Kimono" pattern/kit in Herrschner's catalog that I am getting which I think is beautiful. As an aside, I hate kits and usually substitute better cloth and floss from my local cross stitch shop. I refuse to use Michael's or Hobby Lobby for cross stitch items unless I have no choice as I do not like to see the smaller shops, which provide such good service and expertise go out of business. But back to the kimono question, Herrschner's also has several kits with Geisha's, but I am sure they are not appropriate as I do not think there is an Obi sash worn with a Korean style Kimono. I am wondering if an elaborate Kimono (with flowers, cranes, etc. on it) would be appropriate as a cross-stitch gift to a Korean co-worker that is retiring. Should I tone down (so-to-speak) the pattern, are there any cross-stitch patterns out there that are specifically Korean, does anyone on this group have any patterns/suggestions? Thanks for any and all help. Judith Canaan Kalamazoo, MI |
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I am wondering if an elaborate Kimono (with flowers, cranes, etc. on it)
would be appropriate as a cross-stitch gift to a Korean co-worker that is retiring. BRBR I'm sure it would be beautiful, but your friend might think it a little strange. Korean culture is very different from Japanese culture, to Koreans, and they don't particularly appreciate it when the two are confused. If you can't find a Korean themed picture, you might consider stitching some Korean symbols -- like Chinese and Japanese they use ideograms for their written language and value calligraphy as one of their highest art forms. As to what to say, you might contact a Korean studies program for advice -- professors love to answer questions, and I note that the University of Michigan has a program: http://www.umich.edu/~iinet/ksp/ HTH, Annie |
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Oh, and the coat that you are thinking of is usually quilted and only worn
in the winter. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...26199355PcMail One of the biggest differences between the hanbok and the kimono (other than the obi) is the shape of the sleeve. The hanbok has a much more curved sleeve that doesn't hang down very far. As well, as you can see from the pics I've posted that the fabric is far less intricate, usually a plain silk with some embroidered details, but not elaborate. Having just looked at the chart that you speak of, I am sure that it would never pass as a Korean Hanbok. I am working on a chart of Korean wedding dolls http://community.webshots.com/photo/...26200164nBLXUg and I would be happy to share it if you like. Otherwise let me know and I can come up with something for a retirement saying written in Korean. Take care, Addie -- remove "nospam" to reply WIP: Winter into Spring Mystery Sampler, TW's Storyteller, SC Our Family Tree "Addie" wrote in message news:ghZ5c.14404$vh1.7327@clgrps13... This posting is just up my alley. I lived in Korea for 2 years and have looked for ages for something to stitch and I've finally resigned myself to designing my own. I know that there are a few out there, but I'd have to go searching again. I will, but I have to work all day, so it'll be after that (I'll try in English and Korean). In the meantime I have scanned some postcards of hanboks and have posted them here for you: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...26110906AiHkgj As for the hanbok, there is not an obi or sash and most of the fabrics are relatively plain. They do often wear an ornament called a norigae on the front. You can see it in a couple of postcards. I need to get to work soon, but I will check in again later tonight. Addie -- remove "nospam" to reply WIP: Winter into Spring Mystery Sampler, TW's Storyteller, SC Our Family Tree "Judi Canaan" wrote in message ... I have a number of kimono counted cross-stitch patterns, but they are Japanese I believe. I do know that women's clothing in Korea is different, a full skirt with a Hanbok (spelling) bolero-type jacket/blouse on top. But, there also is a kimono/coat worn by women (at least if what I am finding on Korean web sites is truly representative, however there are few examples). There is an "Elegant Kimono" pattern/kit in Herrschner's catalog that I am getting which I think is beautiful. As an aside, I hate kits and usually substitute better cloth and floss from my local cross stitch shop. I refuse to use Michael's or Hobby Lobby for cross stitch items unless I have no choice as I do not like to see the smaller shops, which provide such good service and expertise go out of business. But back to the kimono question, Herrschner's also has several kits with Geisha's, but I am sure they are not appropriate as I do not think there is an Obi sash worn with a Korean style Kimono. I am wondering if an elaborate Kimono (with flowers, cranes, etc. on it) would be appropriate as a cross-stitch gift to a Korean co-worker that is retiring. Should I tone down (so-to-speak) the pattern, are there any cross-stitch patterns out there that are specifically Korean, does anyone on this group have any patterns/suggestions? Thanks for any and all help. Judith Canaan Kalamazoo, MI |
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Yes, it's unfortunate but true, historically, Koreans have a great
dislike and an uneasy relationship with Japan due to the aggression of war and domination going back through the centuries. Many older Chinese continue to harbor dislike of anything Japanese for the same reasons, especially after WW II. When considering a gift based on cultural meaning be careful of the origins, it's best to check with someone who is well versed with the particular culture to prevent an inadvertent faux pas. --- Lula http://www.woolydream.com Needlework Adventures Judi Canaan wrote: I am wondering if an elaborate Kimono (with flowers, cranes, etc. on it) would be appropriate as a cross-stitch gift to a Korean co-worker that is retiring. FKBABB wrote: I'm sure it would be beautiful, but your friend might think it a little strange. Korean culture is very different from Japanese culture, to Koreans, and they don't particularly appreciate it when the two are confused. If you can't find a Korean themed picture, you might consider stitching some Korean symbols -- like Chinese and Japanese they use ideograms for their written language and value calligraphy as one of their highest art forms. As to what to say, you might contact a Korean studies program for advice -- professors love to answer questions, and I note that the University of Michigan has a program: http://www.umich.edu/~iinet/ksp/ HTH, Annie |
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Thank you for all of the good information. I also, suspected that something
Japanese would not necessarily be appreciated, even though this person had seen some kimonos I stitched sometime ago and really liked them. Some of the Korean web sites I have been looking at have photos of Royal clothing and of course those were not plain, etc.... The wedding dolls do sound interesting, as my co-worker did have a traditional Korean wedding for her daughter and I have been trying to get a copy of the photo of the kimono/robe she wore as the mother of the bride, thinking I could chart that, but no luck so far. I also like the idea of a saying in Korean having to do with happiness, peace and harmony in retirement, or something like that. Perhaps I could stitch something like that and do something around the border decorative, like small fans, or bamboo or maybe someone would have an idea for the border? Thank you again for the good information, and yes Addie, I would be interested in the wedding dolls/and/or/Korean script, if you are willing to share. Judi |
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