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Leg Cramps and Quinine (was) Banned from the Garden!--very long
Hi Sheena ,
found this link which gives a good explanation as to what it may be. Jan wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:23:29 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: Ever had it in the foot, whenyo can watch it? I had one, not bad, the other evening above the arch of my foot. I watched the big toe dance left and right.....damndest thing, and I didn't even have a glass of wine.........well, earlier maybe, but not at the time!! Gillian I always seem to have these cramps around four/five in the morning. I wonder why that is? Is there a reason that anyone knows ? The only exception is that if I reach for something standing on tippy toes (so to speak) that can set off cramps in the calf. Sheena wrote in message news On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:35:04 GMT, animaux wrote: Okay, I call that a muscle spasm. The cramps I'm talking about are where something in the tendon or joint or ligament happens and I can only place my foot down a certain way or the pain will be excruciating. Same thing. My muscle goes into spasm and it is agonizing. If I am lucky I can manipulate my foot and it will ease, unlucky and it means I will have to get up and walk around for awhile. I can also feel where the muscle 'knotted' up the next day. Worst one is one that occurs in the foot, it feels like the foot will snap in half sideways. That one often makes me yell out loud and I have pretty good pain tolerance levels. My cat hates that one, it disturbs his sleep. Sheena On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:37:54 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: The good old charley-horse! I wake in the night, turn over, and something in the back of my calf (usually) seems to go haywire. It is hard, knotted up, and you can feel the twitching. If I can make myself totally relax, it will often go away. On occasions the leg is still sore the next day. I think we had a discussion on the subject not long back, which is where I heard of quinine. For a while I would have a glass of tonic water, sans gin, late in the evening. It may be coincidence, but on those nights I had no problems. Gillian "animaux" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:15:05 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: That has always been my rationale....we know quinine is anti-malarial, and it is also good for legcramps!! Gillian I'm sorry, but I've been trying to get off that psychic vampire of a topic. So, started a few others. When you say leg cramps, are you talking about muscle spasm type things, or those cramps in the groin? When I walk downhill, my back is so twisted off center, I get a cramp in my left groin area. If I don't walk slowly and catch it before I crack into a full cramp, I can't walk for a few days...unless it's with a cane. What a mess. But what are you meaning by cramp? V |
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oops link didn't show , here it is
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C466089.html Jan "Jan Lennie" wrote in message ... Hi Sheena , found this link which gives a good explanation as to what it may be. Jan wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:23:29 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: Ever had it in the foot, whenyo can watch it? I had one, not bad, the other evening above the arch of my foot. I watched the big toe dance left and right.....damndest thing, and I didn't even have a glass of wine.........well, earlier maybe, but not at the time!! Gillian I always seem to have these cramps around four/five in the morning. I wonder why that is? Is there a reason that anyone knows ? The only exception is that if I reach for something standing on tippy toes (so to speak) that can set off cramps in the calf. Sheena wrote in message news On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:35:04 GMT, animaux wrote: Okay, I call that a muscle spasm. The cramps I'm talking about are where something in the tendon or joint or ligament happens and I can only place my foot down a certain way or the pain will be excruciating. Same thing. My muscle goes into spasm and it is agonizing. If I am lucky I can manipulate my foot and it will ease, unlucky and it means I will have to get up and walk around for awhile. I can also feel where the muscle 'knotted' up the next day. Worst one is one that occurs in the foot, it feels like the foot will snap in half sideways. That one often makes me yell out loud and I have pretty good pain tolerance levels. My cat hates that one, it disturbs his sleep. Sheena On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:37:54 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: The good old charley-horse! I wake in the night, turn over, and something in the back of my calf (usually) seems to go haywire. It is hard, knotted up, and you can feel the twitching. If I can make myself totally relax, it will often go away. On occasions the leg is still sore the next day. I think we had a discussion on the subject not long back, which is where I heard of quinine. For a while I would have a glass of tonic water, sans gin, late in the evening. It may be coincidence, but on those nights I had no problems. Gillian "animaux" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:15:05 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: That has always been my rationale....we know quinine is anti-malarial, and it is also good for legcramps!! Gillian I'm sorry, but I've been trying to get off that psychic vampire of a topic. So, started a few others. When you say leg cramps, are you talking about muscle spasm type things, or those cramps in the groin? When I walk downhill, my back is so twisted off center, I get a cramp in my left groin area. If I don't walk slowly and catch it before I crack into a full cramp, I can't walk for a few days...unless it's with a cane. What a mess. But what are you meaning by cramp? V |
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Thanks for the link; according to my annual physical last month, I don't
have any of the medical diseases mentioned, but I giuess I do fit in the category of "older" patients. I think I have occasionally had them as far back as I remember, but they have increased in frequency as the years have passed. Gillian "Jan Lennie" wrote in message ... oops link didn't show , here it is http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C466089.html Jan "Jan Lennie" wrote in message ... Hi Sheena , found this link which gives a good explanation as to what it may be. Jan |
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"emerald" wrote in message .. . wrote He did actually assist a woman, of I think 65, to be pregnant and go forward to a live birth. She had lost her darling playboy son in his Ferrari, and wanted a replacement son. She got her wish but it seemed to me it was a reprehensible thing for him to do. IIRC she even named the second son the same as the first one........Ick. emerald As a person married to an Italian, I can say that this is not very unusual. My mother in law (an immigrant from Sicily) named three successive children the same, since the first two died shortly after birth. It has to do with the custom of naming the children after their grandparents. -- LittleBit Study the past, if you would divine the future. Confucius |
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Yes! I get that all the time. My middle toe goes down and all the others stay
in place. Nothing I do can change it, either. I try stretching...OWweeee. I try ice, soak, my hub massages it, nothing helps till it works out. On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:23:29 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: Ever had it in the foot, whenyo can watch it? I had one, not bad, the other evening above the arch of my foot. I watched the big toe dance left and right.....damndest thing, and I didn't even have a glass of wine.........well, earlier maybe, but not at the time!! Gillian wrote in message news On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:35:04 GMT, animaux wrote: Okay, I call that a muscle spasm. The cramps I'm talking about are where something in the tendon or joint or ligament happens and I can only place my foot down a certain way or the pain will be excruciating. Same thing. My muscle goes into spasm and it is agonizing. If I am lucky I can manipulate my foot and it will ease, unlucky and it means I will have to get up and walk around for awhile. I can also feel where the muscle 'knotted' up the next day. Worst one is one that occurs in the foot, it feels like the foot will snap in half sideways. That one often makes me yell out loud and I have pretty good pain tolerance levels. My cat hates that one, it disturbs his sleep. Sheena On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:37:54 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: The good old charley-horse! I wake in the night, turn over, and something in the back of my calf (usually) seems to go haywire. It is hard, knotted up, and you can feel the twitching. If I can make myself totally relax, it will often go away. On occasions the leg is still sore the next day. I think we had a discussion on the subject not long back, which is where I heard of quinine. For a while I would have a glass of tonic water, sans gin, late in the evening. It may be coincidence, but on those nights I had no problems. Gillian "animaux" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:15:05 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: That has always been my rationale....we know quinine is anti-malarial, and it is also good for legcramps!! Gillian I'm sorry, but I've been trying to get off that psychic vampire of a topic. So, started a few others. When you say leg cramps, are you talking about muscle spasm type things, or those cramps in the groin? When I walk downhill, my back is so twisted off center, I get a cramp in my left groin area. If I don't walk slowly and catch it before I crack into a full cramp, I can't walk for a few days...unless it's with a cane. What a mess. But what are you meaning by cramp? V |
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Well, kiddo,
You are twenty years younger than me! Just picture the ballet you can watch then!! LOL Gillian "animaux" wrote in message ... Yes! I get that all the time. My middle toe goes down and all the others stay in place. Nothing I do can change it, either. I try stretching...OWweeee. I try ice, soak, my hub massages it, nothing helps till it works out. On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:23:29 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: Ever had it in the foot, whenyo can watch it? I had one, not bad, the other evening above the arch of my foot. I watched the big toe dance left and right.....damndest thing, and I didn't even have a glass of wine.........well, earlier maybe, but not at the time!! Gillian wrote in message news On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:35:04 GMT, animaux wrote: Okay, I call that a muscle spasm. The cramps I'm talking about are where something in the tendon or joint or ligament happens and I can only place my foot down a certain way or the pain will be excruciating. Same thing. My muscle goes into spasm and it is agonizing. If I am lucky I can manipulate my foot and it will ease, unlucky and it means I will have to get up and walk around for awhile. I can also feel where the muscle 'knotted' up the next day. Worst one is one that occurs in the foot, it feels like the foot will snap in half sideways. That one often makes me yell out loud and I have pretty good pain tolerance levels. My cat hates that one, it disturbs his sleep. Sheena On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:37:54 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: The good old charley-horse! I wake in the night, turn over, and something in the back of my calf (usually) seems to go haywire. It is hard, knotted up, and you can feel the twitching. If I can make myself totally relax, it will often go away. On occasions the leg is still sore the next day. I think we had a discussion on the subject not long back, which is where I heard of quinine. For a while I would have a glass of tonic water, sans gin, late in the evening. It may be coincidence, but on those nights I had no problems. Gillian "animaux" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:15:05 -0400, "Gillian Murray" wrote: That has always been my rationale....we know quinine is anti-malarial, and it is also good for legcramps!! Gillian I'm sorry, but I've been trying to get off that psychic vampire of a topic. So, started a few others. When you say leg cramps, are you talking about muscle spasm type things, or those cramps in the groin? When I walk downhill, my back is so twisted off center, I get a cramp in my left groin area. If I don't walk slowly and catch it before I crack into a full cramp, I can't walk for a few days...unless it's with a cane. What a mess. But what are you meaning by cramp? V |
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My late mother suffered a lot with leg cramps and was prescribed quinine
which helped. She took it for years, but became deaf. This can be a side effect of quinine use, so beware ! Marie from OZ |
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"Marie Lawrence" wrote in message ...
My late mother suffered a lot with leg cramps and was prescribed quinine which helped. She took it for years, but became deaf. This can be a side effect of quinine use, so beware ! Marie from OZ Marie- My condolences on the loss of your mother. I wanted to thank you for the information regarding quinine. I had not heard of this particular side effect. I periodically suffer from restless leg syndrome and find that my symptoms intensify if I am lacking in calcium or magnesium in my system. Taking a 500mg calcium/magnesium/zinc supplement usually quiets my symptoms, besides being a good idea anyway as a help to prevent osteoporosis. There are no bad side effects to calcium/mag/zinc that I'm aware of. BTW, taking more than 500mg of this supplement is a waste. The body can only process or accept 500mg at a time. I have never been totally clear as to whether leg cramps and restless leg syndrome were the same condition or merely related. Jo |
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