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Legal position in describing imported gold jewellery in UK ?
Hi Folks,
I've read a thread in this group a while ago regarding the legality of describing gold jewellery as 'gold' in the UK if the item is not hallmarked. Does this mean that if I were to import gold jewellery pieces from abroad (countries who do not need to hallmark stamp them), would it be illegal to describe the items as '10kt, 14kt gold' etc. in my sales literature. If it is illegal to do this in the UK then how does one fully describe the piece? Many thanks for any advice. Neil |
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puk wrote:
Hi Folks, I've read a thread in this group a while ago regarding the legality of describing gold jewellery as 'gold' in the UK if the item is not hallmarked. Does this mean that if I were to import gold jewellery pieces from abroad (countries who do not need to hallmark stamp them), would it be illegal to describe the items as '10kt, 14kt gold' etc. in my sales literature. If it is illegal to do this in the UK then how does one fully describe the piece? Many thanks for any advice. Neil As I understand it, it _is_ illegal in UK to sell an item as being gold/silver/platinum when it doesn't bear an appropriate hallmark. The accepted description is along the lines of "yellow metal marked as 14kt". -- Regards, Gary Wooding (To reply by email, change feet to foot in my address) |
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puk wrote:
Hi Folks, I've read a thread in this group a while ago regarding the legality of describing gold jewellery as 'gold' in the UK if the item is not hallmarked. Does this mean that if I were to import gold jewellery pieces from abroad (countries who do not need to hallmark stamp them), would it be illegal to describe the items as '10kt, 14kt gold' etc. in my sales literature. If it is illegal to do this in the UK then how does one fully describe the piece? Many thanks for any advice. Neil Before weget into the legal rules and regulations regarding offering for sale gold items to the general public in the UK , Have you done your sums right? Your going to compete with the big boys in the high st who will and already have the importation of gold articles market sewn up. Assuming your going to be able to import, cover the cost of the duty, etc are you going to be competitive? Once your sure of this, then you can look at the legal questions. you cannot describe by any means an article made with a percentage of gold that you offer for sale at a quality you describe UNLESS it is tested and marked by one of the UK assay offices to that value. You do not need to have it marked IF you describe it as yellow metal and do not mention the word gold anywhere or in any way. Now youve to be sure that what your buying is indeed the quality your promised. If the assay office on testing your gold articles find its below the standard you describe they will mark it a lower mark or if its below the minimum allowed have the right to destroy the object. your still charged the assay cost wether its marked or not. Hope this cheers you up this morning. If it was me, id only agree to pay for the gold items AFTER they have passed the UK hallmarking requirements. then youd be safe. Also theres a different marking price for finished items than to unfinished ones. To answer your last question, you cannot fully describe the piece unless it meets the above rules. .. |
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puk wrote:
I've read a thread in this group a while ago regarding the legality of describing gold jewellery as 'gold' in the UK if the item is not hallmarked. Does this mean that if I were to import gold jewellery pieces from abroad (countries who do not need to hallmark stamp them), would it be illegal to describe the items as '10kt, 14kt gold' etc. in my sales literature. If it is illegal to do this in the UK then how does one fully describe the piece? An excellent summary of the law is available at http://www.thegoldsmiths.co.uk/assayoffice/currenthallmarks.htm Some of this legislation only applies to those "in the trade" - from your description you would be counted as being in the trade, so it all applies. You can use terms like "gold plated" or "yellow metal". If they are already marked "14kt" you may have problems. I am not a lawyer; with 10 years in prison at stake you may want one. Registering a mark costs about £40 for 10 years. Getting a punch made costs around £40-£60 (not required for laser marking). Getting items hallmarked depends on weight and type of item but is as low as £0.31 but all are under £1/item for gold (laser marks may be more). Minimum parcel charges may apply. Oh, and add £10 for your DN2 statutory notice. Prices based on Sheffield 2005 price list, other assay offices may vary. The UK system is based on independent assay. There is NO scope for "under-carating" - if it isn't 585 parts gold per 1000 it will not be marked 14ct. Your "10ct" items can only be assayed at the next lowest recognised standard, which is 9ct (375/1000). You may want to have a clause in your supply contract that protects you from costs associated with the assay office rejecting under-carat items from your supplier. Alternatively you will have to allow for wastage or devaluation. You will also be responsible for ensuring that the items meet European standards on nickel content for jewelery http://www.teg.co.uk/nickel/index.html. The good news for you is that imported items are no longer distinguished from domestic. They used to use a different assay office mark design for imported items (upto 1999). And if you get convention marks applied then you can, I believe, safely export to the rest of Europe and the "convention" countries. Good luck Andy http://AndyWebber.com/ |
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"puk" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, I've read a thread in this group a while ago regarding the legality of describing gold jewellery as 'gold' in the UK if the item is not hallmarked. Does this mean that if I were to import gold jewellery pieces from abroad (countries who do not need to hallmark stamp them), would it be illegal to describe the items as '10kt, 14kt gold' etc. in my sales literature. It's 'yellow metal' unless it either has a UK hallmark or a mark from Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, The Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia and Switzerland. 10ct is not a UK mark, it'll be stamped 9ct. The marks on it already don't actually matter unless they are from one of the above places. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe Barbeques on fire by chalets past the headland I've watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off Newborough All this will pass like ice-cream on the beach Time for tea -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe Barbeques on fire by chalets past the headland I've watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off Newborough All this will pass like ice-cream on the beach Time for tea |
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I'm not sure I understand. If I sell my own creations (bangles, earrings,
necklaces that are primarily maille and wire work at the moment) do I have to get them hallmarked to sell them as silver? What about if I buy pre marked clasps and things? Some of my pieces I doubt actually have space to put a hallmark on. What about those that use other materials, such as lampwork? How do I got about getting an account at an assay office? I couldn't find any of this info on their websites, perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places. So this mean that every "craft" (I hate that word) seller at a fair is breaking the law because their pieces haven't been send to the assay office? Charlie. "Wooding" wrote in message news puk wrote: Hi Folks, I've read a thread in this group a while ago regarding the legality of describing gold jewellery as 'gold' in the UK if the item is not hallmarked. Does this mean that if I were to import gold jewellery pieces from abroad (countries who do not need to hallmark stamp them), would it be illegal to describe the items as '10kt, 14kt gold' etc. in my sales literature. If it is illegal to do this in the UK then how does one fully describe the piece? Many thanks for any advice. Neil As I understand it, it _is_ illegal in UK to sell an item as being gold/silver/platinum when it doesn't bear an appropriate hallmark. The accepted description is along the lines of "yellow metal marked as 14kt". -- Regards, Gary Wooding (To reply by email, change feet to foot in my address) |
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"puk" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, I've read a thread in this group a while ago regarding the legality of describing gold jewellery as 'gold' in the UK if the item is not hallmarked. Does this mean that if I were to import gold jewellery pieces from abroad (countries who do not need to hallmark stamp them), would it be illegal to describe the items as '10kt, 14kt gold' etc. in my sales literature. If it is illegal to do this in the UK then how does one fully describe the piece? Many thanks to all who replied. It seems that my tenuous grasp of the issue was fundamentally correct, and therefore represents a real problem for (I guess) many other traders in a similar situation. We had planned to stock gold and silver jewellery pieces from around the world (ethnic pieces, representing the traditional styles for each country/region), for sale by mail order (possibly UK only) and on our website, internationally. We would test to check that the pieces were actually of the karat grade advised by our suppliers prior to releasing them for retail sale, to ensure that the items did conform to description, and that our customers were receiving what they expected. It would seem that this is not feasible as we will not, in a great many cases, be able to describe them as 'gold' or 'silver'. If we describe them as 'yellow metal', then I presume if a customer actually enquires what 'yellow metal' actually means, we still can not legally define the meaning of the term as 'gold'. It's 'yellow metal' unless it either has a UK hallmark or a mark from Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, The Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia and Switzerland. (just thinking out loud now, for the benefit of discussion...) Alternatively we could have the pieces stamped in the UK, but this will cost extra and present additional problems. We have been talking to suppliers from a good many countries, including USA, Italy, Egypt, Middle and Far East. Some of these suppliers are agreeable to a sale or return (exchange) arrangement for items not selling well. Therefore we would not be able have the pieces hallmarked in the UK if we were to work by that arrangement. I'm sure this must affect other traders in the UK, and wonder if there is any of legally circumventing the problem. Disregarding the mail order side, would the same law apply to trading online (website store) being operated from the UK? It seems like a huge gamble to stock up and sell as 'yellow metal' and not even be able to list what 'grade' of 'yellow metal' the piece is made from. Once again many thanks for the detailed advice offered by one and all. Neil |
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"Charlie" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I understand. If I sell my own creations (bangles, earrings, necklaces that are primarily maille and wire work at the moment) do I have to get them hallmarked to sell them as silver? Yes, if they weigh more than than about 1/4 of an ounce. If less you can just stamp them yourself '.925'. What about if I buy pre marked clasps and things? If you add them and what you add them to isn't of the correct composition you can get locked up. Some of my pieces I doubt actually have space to put a hallmark on. You'd be suprised, besides silver under about 1/4 ounce doen't need them to be sold as silver... How do I got about getting an account at an assay office? I couldn't find any of this info on their websites, perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places. Go there. Walk in the door and ask. They're very good. You've got to go there anyway to pick your mark anyway. So this mean that every "craft" (I hate that word) It's not a craft, it's a trade. seller at a fair is breaking the law because their pieces haven't been send to the assay office? I'm not, my stuff is marked, I display the correct card, I play the game according to the rules. The Commissioners have a very strange sense of humour, and none at all when it come to selling stuff without marks.. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe Barbeques on fire by chalets past the headland I've watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off Newborough All this will pass like ice-cream on the beach Time for tea |
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"puk" wrote in message ... It would seem that this is not feasible as we will not, in a great many cases, be able to describe them as 'gold' or 'silver'. If we describe them as 'yellow metal', then I presume if a customer actually enquires what 'yellow metal' actually means, we still can not legally define the meaning of the term as 'gold'. True. It's 'yellow metal' unless it either has a UK hallmark or a mark from Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, The Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia and Switzerland. (just thinking out loud now, for the benefit of discussion...) Alternatively we could have the pieces stamped in the UK, but this will cost extra and present additional problems. We have been talking to suppliers from a good many countries, including USA, Italy, Egypt, Middle and Far East. Some of these suppliers are agreeable to a sale or return (exchange) arrangement for items not selling well. Therefore we would not be able have the pieces hallmarked in the UK if we were to work by that arrangement. I'm sure this must affect other traders in the UK, and wonder if there is any of legally circumventing the problem. Disregarding the mail order side, would the same law apply to trading online (website store) being operated from the UK? The words here are 'Sold in the UK'. If you sell precious metal objects in the UK they MUST be marked unless they're very small (under 1/4 ounce for silver). No exceptions, no allowances for ignorance, vast and ghastly penalties for non compliance. This game has rules, it sets a level playing field for materials quality that has lasted for over four hundred years in its present form and goes back a lot longer. Have you considered asking your 'Sale or Return' suppliers if they'd mind a UK hallmark being added? At least three of the wholesalers I deal with import large quantities of 'ethnic' jewellery from the 'Third World' and don't see this as an issue. However if you're importing stuff from either Italy or Nepal be careful, as a general rule it won't get a British hallmark anyway, it tends to be only 75% silver... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe Barbeques on fire by chalets past the headland I've watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off Newborough All this will pass like ice-cream on the beach Time for tea |
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Charlie wrote:
I'm not sure I understand. If I sell my own creations (bangles, earrings, necklaces that are primarily maille and wire work at the moment) do I have to get them hallmarked to sell them as silver? Unless they are exempt then yes. What about if I buy pre marked clasps and things? Unless your finished item is exempt then yes. Some of my pieces I doubt actually have space to put a hallmark on. The smallest punch is about 0.4 mm across its smallest dimension, so a set of marks would fit in about 2x0.5mm or 1.5x1.5mm space. There is an exemption under "List of Articles Exempted from Compulsory Hallmarking under Part II of Schedule I of the Hallmarking Act 1973; As amended by the Hallmarking (Exempted Articles)(Amendment) Order 1975 the Hallmarking (Exempted Articles) Orders 1982 and 1986" [deep breath] heading "Articles exempt if of minimum fineness" para 13 "Any article, except an article made of chainwork, which is wholly of one or more precious metals of minimum fineness and which is so small or thin that it cannot be hallmarked" and Note "The exemptions referred to in para ..... 13 ... of the list will not apply to any articles in which solder is used unless the solder is of the standard of fineness required if the articles were to be hallmarked" In short and roughly, if it is too small/thin to hallmark, but it meets the requirements for successful assay then it is exempt from hallmarking. That means you may be able call your small/thin items "silver" or "sterling" as long as it really is at least 925, the solder at least 650 and it meets other regulations eg on not mixing with base metals except where permitted. There is also a virtual blanket exemption for items of silver under 7.78g as long as they meet the fineness requirements. What about those that use other materials, such as lampwork? If you are mixing precious and base metals then special rules apply (you should get all the gory details in pre or post registration pack). This is too complext to summarise accurately here. Mixing with non-metalic materials is not normally a problem as long as it is not filling. The point here is to avoid deception. How do I got about getting an account at an assay office? I couldn't find any of this info on their websites, perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places. There's too much reliance on paper/signatures to register on-line. Just phone them up or write to them and say you are interested in registering a mark. They will send you the paperwork to complete, rates etc and probably copies of bits of legislation. You have a free choice of office and can register with several if you wish. You do not need to register with the office nearest to you. If all your items are exempt then you do not need to register at all. So this mean that every "craft" (I hate that word) seller at a fair is breaking the law because their pieces haven't been send to the assay office? Not necessarily. There is no problem if the items are exempt from hallmark laws. It is possible to unknowingly be in compliance with the law. I would suggest getting copies of the memorandums and notes from the Joint Comittee of the Assay Offices of Great Britian either from an assay office or from the Committee (St Philip's House, St Philip's Place, Birmingham, B3 2PP). Cheers Andy Webber http://AndyWebber.com/ |
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