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Old September 29th 04, 05:38 PM
Kandice Seeber
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You'd think with all that extra time, they'd do some research.

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Someone has a little too much time on their hands...

-Kalera
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Marna wrote:
Well, this person must be sending this same exact message to others
with the raku reference. My girlfriend Kaye Husko KOREGON got the same
exact email word for word. The polite response is in order ... but I
know I would be tempted to send your original response!
Marna



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Old September 29th 04, 05:45 PM
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Yeah, but that would require thinking for one's self, wouldn't it?

Oops...did I actually type that out loud?
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"Kandice Seeber" wrote in message
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You'd think with all that extra time, they'd do some research.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

Someone has a little too much time on their hands...

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Marna wrote:
Well, this person must be sending this same exact message to others
with the raku reference. My girlfriend Kaye Husko KOREGON got the same
exact email word for word. The polite response is in order ... but I
know I would be tempted to send your original response!
Marna





  #43  
Old September 29th 04, 05:45 PM
Kandice Seeber
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Well, that's how it goes on ebay. People can put words like "emerald" and
"pearl" in titles of auctions that have nothing to do with actual emeralds
or pearls. Unless the auction is grossly misleading, it's not against the
rules. Such as the auctions which state annealed and are not - that's
keyowrd spamming. Annealed cannot mean more than one thing, when it comes to
beads. A bead is either annealed or it's not. Raku can simply refer to a
color scheme. So can words like Patina, Pearl, Crystal, etc.

People do stick things in the wrong category and that's why searches for
"annealed lampwork beads" will still return things like jewelry, tools, etc.
You can report those auctions, but seriously, who has the time?

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Kandice Seeber
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http://www.lampwork.net


my first rude "question from a
member" on Ebay! I feel so honored, LOL!

Actually it wasn't a question so much as a brief comment. And I quote:
"Raku is a clay process not glass!!!!!!!!"



I wonder if this is from a totally frustrated eBayer looking for the
ceramic
raku items.... You know, you plug in what you're looking for in the search
box... and a whole bunch of other stuff pops up, so much "other stuff"
that you
can't "see" what you wanted.

Just try "lampwork" in the search.... Even indicate you want "beads"
(eliminates glass paperweights) that are "annealed" (eliminates honest
import
sellers), and you get auctions for finished jewelry and Chinese (and even
Indian) made lampwork. Subtract Chinese, Indian, import, bracelet,
necklace,
earring and anything else you don't want-- and you still get Chinese
imports
(some not even beads!) in your list. Right now, there's is somebody trying
to
sell pairs of Chinese lampwork for ~$5-- plus a horrendous shipping
charge--
and his/her auctions are showing up on my highly modified search (and not
for
the first time).

Perhaps suggest that this person "subtract" glass and/or "lampwork" from
his/her search for "raku".
Kaytee
"Simplexities" on
www.eclecticbeadery.com
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Old September 29th 04, 05:59 PM
Su/Cutworks
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Kandice wrote:

People do stick things in the wrong category and that's why searches for
"annealed lampwork beads" will still return things like jewelry, tools,

etc.
You can report those auctions, but seriously, who has the time?


The person who complained about the raku label?

She obviously has time on her hands.

-Su


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Old September 29th 04, 06:20 PM
Diana Curtis
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What fun would that be? :-)
Diana

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"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
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"Raku is a clay process not glass!!!!!!!!"


Or ---- you could've ignored them completely and sent no answer at all.

They
really didn't deserve one.
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Sooz
To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph

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Old September 29th 04, 06:38 PM
Peggy
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Yeah, we're big into kerosene, too.


"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
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I agree with Sooz. You never know where someone so rude as to post that
message might also post your reply. Better to take the high road here.


In business, you have to watch your mouth. It's not Real Life, and you
can't
indulge.

I think that whoever sent that post must have had a bad day. As we say
here
in south Georgia, the person who sent that post needs some sugar!!!


Or ----- kerosene and a match. hee hee hee.
~~
Sooz
To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph
Chilton
Pearce



  #47  
Old September 29th 04, 06:39 PM
Peggy
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Or a smile :-)


"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
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Something like:

Thank you for your comment! In fact, there are a number of terms used in
glass that have crossed craft boundaries. I'm sure that as you become
more familiar with the medium, you will encounter many more. Please
never hesitate to ask if you find yourself confused about terminology!
Take care."


Oh that's GOOD. End it with a cheerful "!"
~~
Sooz
To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph
Chilton
Pearce



  #48  
Old September 29th 04, 08:44 PM
Dr. Sooz
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What fun would that be? :-)

Ignoring is only good for those quiet moments of feeling utterly superior and
smug.....**not* good for those moments of AAARRRGGH!
~~
Sooz
To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton
Pearce

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Old September 29th 04, 08:50 PM
Christina Peterson
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Much better. Especially because it is educational, which is the correct
response to ignorance. It should be kept in mind, that this could be a
potential customer. I have to say, I too thought "raku" was an incorrect
description when I first heard it. It still irks me slightly that the word
for a process is being applied to describe a color of frit.

Tina


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
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Heh, welcome to the wondrous world of bead selling!

Were I you, instead of sending that reply, I would send something more
briefly condescending, yet utterly, cheerfully deadpan. Especially if
they made it a publicly viewable question. Something like:

Thank you for your comment! In fact, there are a number of terms used in
glass that have crossed craft boundaries. I'm sure that as you become
more familiar with the medium, you will encounter many more. Please
never hesitate to ask if you find yourself confused about terminology!
Take care."

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


*~candygrrl~* wrote:
Well, I must have arrived! I've gotten my first rude "question from a
member" on Ebay! I feel so honored, LOL!

Actually it wasn't a question so much as a brief comment. And I quote:
"Raku is a clay process not glass!!!!!!!!" (Please note the severe
overuse of the exclamation point) That's it. Well, hm. I'm perfectly
aware of that, you D.A., thanks for nothing! :P

Here's my response - which I haven't sent off yet, as I'm trying to
bite my tongue, virtually speaking...

"Well, for your information, I am fully aware that raku is also a clay
process, since I ALSO make clay beads. The name of the GLASS frit that
I used on that set of beads is called "Raku Jitterbug" and most
lampwork bead buyers are familiar with this fact. So the name of my
bead set happens to be completely accurate. At last search, 59 other
beadmakers also used Raku in the names for their beads. Did they all
get the same scathing comment or am I the lucky one today??

In addition, if I want to name my beads Raku, Terra Cotta, Crackle,
Stoneware, Earthenware, Porcelain, or Solid Gold Wrapped In a Hundred
Dollar Bill I am perfectly free to do so. Please find a better way to
use your time."

Grumble grumble grump! Someone tell me not to send that, or I'm
gonna...

Deux Candace



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Old September 29th 04, 10:04 PM
*~candygrrl~*
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oh, my actual response was equally polite, if not as clever I never
really considered sending my vent - I am a businesswoman, after all.

I can't speak for Val and why she named it Raku. However,the process
you have to go through to get it to produce the varied colors is
similar to what is done in clay, as far as having to manipulate
temperature by rapidly cooling the surface to create a reaction. So I
don't think it was just a random name.

 




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