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And you are not supposed to drink BLACK coffee, right?
But I happen to LOVE black coffee. Ria On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:57:20 -0000, "Kari" wrote: Talking about politically correct "nonsense".. I used to work in an Infant School (Kindergarten). we were not allowed to teach the children "Baa-Baa BLACK sheep" - it had to be "Baa-Baa GREEN sheep". And they wonder why the youth of today are confused!!!!! With love from belgium Ria riavdv at pandora dot be |
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In article , Ria Van de Velde
wrote: Kari, I do hope you make a doll like this for you. I find him very cute and I believe every child in the world should have a doll that resembles him/her. Having a black doll is no racism, but saying there is something wrong with black dolls, certainly is. Right on Ria Using the word Golliwogg to express a negative feeling about a person is taking away from that. Els -- I have added a trap for spammers......niet..... |
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Kari wrote:
Talking about politically correct "nonsense".. I used to work in an Infant School (Kindergarten). we were not allowed to teach the children "Baa-Baa BLACK sheep" - it had to be "Baa-Baa GREEN sheep". And they wonder why the youth of today are confused!!!!! That seems particularly odd, given that the rhyme actually says nothing other than that the sheep in question gives plenty of wool, which appears to be desirable. Nothing about the wool or the sheep being undesirable. |
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"Kari" wrote... Talking about politically correct "nonsense".. I used to work in an Infant School (Kindergarten). we were not allowed to teach the children "Baa-Baa BLACK sheep" - it had to be "Baa-Baa GREEN sheep". And they wonder why the youth of today are confused!!!!! Oh, for heaven's sake! How ridiculous! Some people go out of their way to feel offended. Katherine (shaking her head at this!) |
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"Kari" wrote...
Talking about politically correct "nonsense".. I used to work in an Infant School (Kindergarten). we were not allowed to teach the children "Baa-Baa BLACK sheep" - it had to be "Baa-Baa GREEN sheep". And they wonder why the youth of today are confused!!!!! Oh, for heaven's sake! How ridiculous! Some people go out of their way to feel offended. Katherine (shaking her head at this!) Good grief! Now I'm offended because I'd rather have BLUE sheep! ::::Wondering at the dyeing possibilities for green sheep wool::: (Just wanted to check out my anti-spam settings and sig) Still stitchin' and smilin' Carol in SC |
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Katherine I agree - any colour of doll is fine as far as I can see and when
it comes to having a black doll or a white one - then surely we can have both - the world is after all peopled with both black and white and so why not the dolls . I had a lovely little golliwog when I was young and it was my favourite, I also had story books about little black children which I still have and still cherish and I have had them for seventy two years and often read them to this day - it was never considered racist - after all I had books about little white children too ( none of which I still have ! ) When are we going to stop all this politically correct nonsense and think of everyone as wonderful people whom - if we do not already know them - we would all like to know them, no matter what the race or creed or anything else and lets have dolls to match if we wish. When I was young making what are now called racist remarks would have been considered very rude and would have been punished along with any other rude remark and left at that. Now because it is called "politically incorrect" it just receive more prominence and none of the punishment it deserves. God bless Gwen -- Gwen Kelly "Katherine" wrote in message ... "Anna" wrote "The Golliwog (originally spelled Golliwogg) is the least known of the major anti-Black caricatures in the United States. ..." http://www.ferris.edu/news/jimcrow/golliwog/ Nice choice of project. ? My son had a golliwog which he loved dearly. I think that this has become a case of being a bit too politically correct. It is OK to have stuffed toys with orange faces, green faces, blue faces - in fact, every colour but black. Katherine |
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Kari that is the worst piece of politically correct nonsence I have ever
heard of . Everyone knows that sheep come in black and white ( and other shades) and those of you who are spinners would prize a good black fleece I am sure. Besides that makes me wonder how does one ask for a pair of black shoes in such an enviorment ! Time we all grew up I think God Bless Gwen -- Gwen Kelly "Kari" wrote in message ... Talking about politically correct "nonsense".. I used to work in an Infant School (Kindergarten). we were not allowed to teach the children "Baa-Baa BLACK sheep" - it had to be "Baa-Baa GREEN sheep". And they wonder why the youth of today are confused!!!!! -- Kari (in the UK) SpamTrap: I will have "no spam" emailed to me! "Richard Eney" wrote in message ... In article , Katherine wrote: My son had a golliwog which he loved dearly. I think that this has become a case of being a bit too politically correct. It is OK to have stuffed toys with orange faces, green faces, blue faces - in fact, every colour but black. Looking carefully at the style of doll, I think the Golliwog is just a black version of the Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls, or maybe they were red-haired copies of the Golly. As far as 'politically correctness' goes, you should visit New Orleans and see the fine-art black dolls that are made and sold there! I believe at least some of them are made by black artists, and they don't seem to think that there is any problem with representing certain shapes and facial expressions. It's just a doll. =Tamar |
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"G.Kelly" wrote in message ... Katherine I agree - any colour of doll is fine as far as I can see and when it comes to having a black doll or a white one - then surely we can have both - the world is after all peopled with both black and white and so why not the dolls . I had a lovely little golliwog when I was young and it was my favourite, I also had story books about little black children which I still have and still cherish and I have had them for seventy two years and often read them to this day - it was never considered racist - after all I had books about little white children too ( none of which I still have ! ) When are we going to stop all this politically correct nonsense and think of everyone as wonderful people whom - if we do not already know them - we would all like to know them, no matter what the race or creed or anything else and lets have dolls to match if we wish. When I was young making what are now called racist remarks would have been considered very rude and would have been punished along with any other rude remark and left at that. Now because it is called "politically incorrect" it just receive more prominence and none of the punishment it deserves. God bless Gwen Well said Gwen. I just wish the crazy political correctness ibiquitous in our lives now would disappear hugs O |
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| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:40:59 GMT, Ria Van de Velde wrote:
Kari, I do hope you make a doll like this for you. I find him very cute and I believe every child in the world should have a doll that resembles him/her. Having a black doll is no racism, but saying there is something wrong with black dolls, certainly is. The big problem the article points out is the stories that were written about them, especially later in their popularity. I find it sad that such things ruin what could be a positive experience. I used to love the Little Black Sambo story as a kid and thought of him as a clever and brave little boy who probably grew up to be a leader among men. I would have loved to have had a black doll to make up adventures for and to join the adventures of my other dolls and bears. Having a black doll to love seems such an innocent thing. What a shame when it gets tainted with adult prejudices. That said, the few Golliwogs I've seen never struck me as being meant to look human. I always took him for some sort of mythical creature like gnomes, trolls and pixies. I was nearly an adult before I even saw the minstrel costume and make-up he was apparently based on, as part of a black history program. Helen "Halla" Fleischer, Fantasy & Fiber Artist in Fairland, MD USA http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/ |
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Sigh. black coffee does give me heartburn, so I guess I'll stick with my
soy latte concoction. But I dearly love spinning black wool and all the shades of silver and gray as well. I don't think I even want to know how that rhyme got twisted into having some sort of racist meaning. As a kid, when I got to choose a toy lamb at Easter I dove straight for the black one, no doubt because of that rhyme. | On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:44:40 GMT, Ria Van de Velde wrote: And you are not supposed to drink BLACK coffee, right? But I happen to LOVE black coffee. Ria On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:57:20 -0000, "Kari" wrote: Talking about politically correct "nonsense".. I used to work in an Infant School (Kindergarten). we were not allowed to teach the children "Baa-Baa BLACK sheep" - it had to be "Baa-Baa GREEN sheep". And they wonder why the youth of today are confused!!!!! With love from belgium Ria riavdv at pandora dot be Helen "Halla" Fleischer, Fantasy & Fiber Artist in Fairland, MD USA http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/ |
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