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Old February 28th 06, 02:16 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of
detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached
to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature-
H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is
harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I
REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when
you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the
fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible???
Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small
town in an emergency? VBG

Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO.

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Old February 28th 06, 02:35 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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I've always liked the WU better. I have had it refuse to detach, but just a
few times. If you really don't like to have the shredded edges, fuse all
your fabric first, then remove the release paper before cutting out. If you
have to draw a pattern, you can draw on the release paper, then iron
(drawing side down) to the fused side of the fabric. The design will
transfer to the fabric, and then you can cut out the design. Be sure to not
touch your iron to the exposed fusible on the fabric....use the release
paper as a pressing cloth!
I've had terrible luck with Seam a Seam 2. It leaves visible "bumps" on the
front...especially on light colored fabrics. I've tried another kind of
light fusible that Sue Nickels likes (darn! I can't think of the name!) and
it would NOT stay on the paper long enough to work with it. I have some of
Teri Austin's fusible that doesn't have the paper, but haven't tried it yet.
The instructions are intimidating.
As I collect the new books from the fusible "experts"...Laura Wasilowski,
Frieda Anderson, and Robbie Eklow....it seems they all prefer WU. I think
the issue with the gumming needle is important. And Laura and Frieda use
the method of fusing the fabric and drawing on the release paper. That
works the best if you're fusing small pieces.....like on postcards!!!!

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"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote in message
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Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of
detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached
to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature-
H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is
harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I
REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when
you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the
fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible???
Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small
town in an emergency? VBG

Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO.



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Old February 28th 06, 02:50 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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Hmmm... other than my bad batch of WU yesterday, I haven't had all these
problems with WU. Never had it detach from the paper, never been hard to
remove, never shredded the edges of the fabric unless I used really dull
scissors.

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"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote in message
ups.com...
Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of
detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached
to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature-
H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is
harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I
REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when
you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the
fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible???
Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small
town in an emergency? VBG

Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO.



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Old February 28th 06, 03:22 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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I have absolutely no luck at all with H&B (I have the Lite version). Never
have. I either over or under cook it every time. And I always end up with
those little glue beads showing through to the top. And it does gum up the
needle. I fought with it yesterday with my postcard backs and was
immediately reminded why I hate it so. I think I've finally used the last
of it up. I haven't used Wonder Under in a while, so don't remember much
about it. My current favorite is Steam a Seam Lite. Not Steam a Seam II.
The original SaS only has paper on one side. I never manage to draw on the
correct paper side with the SaSII. In general, SaS Lite isn't too fussy
about temperature, it sticks well, leaves a smooth layer or glue (not little
beads) and the paper comes off easily enough. I'm not sure how available
it is locally, though, or even if they still make the original version. I
ordered a bunch on line at some point and have been using that.

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"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote in message
ups.com...
Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of
detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached
to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature-
H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is



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Old February 28th 06, 04:19 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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I don't like either one. I like Steam-a-Seam 2 Lite. I like how it is
lightly sticky so pieces stay in place until you fuse them. The only thing
you have to be careful about is tracing on the correct side. You have to
trace on the paper that has the glue attached to it.

When I have a shape rough cut, I place it on the fabric, and hit it for a
second or two with the iron. Cut the shape, and the remaining paper releases
easily. I've been using this on all my ATC's, Postcards, and fusible
projects for awhile now, always works well for me.


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"Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote in message
ups.com...
Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of
detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached
to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature-
H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is
harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I
REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when
you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the
fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible???
Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small
town in an emergency? VBG

Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO.



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Old February 28th 06, 06:15 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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So if I understand right - you can fuse just one side? This would be
handy because I have found it annoying how the fusible can detach from
the piece of fabric that you are trying to manouver into position.

Lisa Caryl wrote:

I don't like either one. I like Steam-a-Seam 2 Lite. I like how it is
lightly sticky so pieces stay in place until you fuse them. The only thing
you have to be careful about is tracing on the correct side. You have to
trace on the paper that has the glue attached to it.

When I have a shape rough cut, I place it on the fabric, and hit it for a
second or two with the iron. Cut the shape, and the remaining paper releases
easily. I've been using this on all my ATC's, Postcards, and fusible
projects for awhile now, always works well for me.


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Old February 28th 06, 10:40 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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I use Steam a Seam 2 if I ever use/need a fusible.
I have no problems with it - but I don't have wide experience with it.
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In message . com,
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. writes
Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of
detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached
to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature-
H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is
harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I
REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when
you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the
fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible???
Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small
town in an emergency? VBG

Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO.


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Old February 28th 06, 11:03 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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"Allison" wrote in message
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So if I understand right - you can fuse just one side? This would be
handy because I have found it annoying how the fusible can detach from
the piece of fabric that you are trying to manouver into position.

Hi Allison,
It is like other fusibles, but, it has 2 paper liners rather than just one.
It is also slightly sticky on both sides of the glue. One paper liner
releases away from the glue easily, and the other one has the fusible glue
more firmly attached to it. That is the one you want to draw your pieces on.

Once you draw your applique pieces on the paper, you rough cut around the
shape(s). The easy-release paper liner usually falls away at this point. You
then place your pieces on your applique fabric. The stickiness helps keep it
in place. Hit it with the iron for just a second or two. Cut the shape on
the drawn lines, and the remaining paper should release easily.

Position the applique piece on your background. You can reposition it as
needed until you are happy with it. Since it is sticky, it won't curl up as
other fusibles do. This is really helpful when you're doing multi layered
things like flower petals. When you're happy with the placement of the
applique pieces, iron them permanently in place.

Does that make sense to you? I think I went through the steps of using it
too quickly in my first post. Hope this helps, (And NAYY to the Steam-A-Seam
Company)

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Old March 1st 06, 02:27 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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I don't like any of them. (How's that for being crabby?) Gummy needles
really interfere with my plans. Plus, of course, we don't know what the
eventual, years down the road results of fusibles will be. My quilts get
used to pieces and that's not a concern to me.
If I need something to hold still until I can stitch it, I put just the
tiniest nothing speck of plain old "Elmer's" glue stick under it. Washes
out and is edible if you take a notion. Polly


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Old March 1st 06, 02:38 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
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I don't think its so crabby Polly. The heavy stuff will gum up a needle
but the lite has never given me any problem.. I use it for wall
hangings with machine appliqué.
I certainly wouldn't want to try anything heirloom quality with the
stuff.
YOu know, as the fat nazi I have to ask what the glue stick calories
and fat content are ; )
Taria, will be a good while before I imagine you as crabby dear Polly.

Polly Esther wrote:

I don't like any of them. (How's that for being crabby?) Gummy needles
really interfere with my plans. Plus, of course, we don't know what the
eventual, years down the road results of fusibles will be. My quilts get
used to pieces and that's not a concern to me.
If I need something to hold still until I can stitch it, I put just the
tiniest nothing speck of plain old "Elmer's" glue stick under it. Washes
out and is edible if you take a notion. Polly



 




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