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Old May 19th 08, 03:40 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
John
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I have a problem that has cropped up on the quilt I am working on. My
wife, when she sees it, thinks that the pattern of the hollow blocks
flow from top left to bottom right. creating the cascading effect. I
am not so sure and think the pattern flows from top right to bottom
left. Now in most cases it would be unimportant, but there is going to
be a design element that will be introduced into the quilt at the
bottom that the flow of the block patterns is critical to it's
placement. On a recent small wall hanging quilt of solid color blocks,
of various colors, the flow of the pattern was obvious and pronounced.
Here, with the colors of the blocks identical, the pattern flow is not
as pronounced, and hence my quandary. I hope to achieve a consensus
from the cognoscenti, that being you, which will end the discussion. I
am afraid it is a right brain/left brain issue and it will forever go
unresolved, and I will just have to flip a coin and hope for the best.
It really does matter in the larger design scheme of things, in
relation to the total design theme, so it would be nice to be right,
and not have to redo anything because of a bad choice. I await your
careful ideas, or random guesses. Whichever you choose to pronounce.
Here is the link
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...00692635KRUHCc

Thanks

John
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Old May 19th 08, 03:46 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
KJ
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I can make myself see it both ways. But my initial reaction was from top
left to bottom right. Perhaps it's the photo, but it seems there should be
a bit more contrast between the two medium colors.

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"John" wrote in message
...
I have a problem that has cropped up on the quilt I am working on. My
wife, when she sees it, thinks that the pattern of the hollow blocks
flow from top left to bottom right. creating the cascading effect. I
am not so sure and think the pattern flows from top right to bottom
left. Now in most cases it would be unimportant, but there is going to
be a design element that will be introduced into the quilt at the
bottom that the flow of the block patterns is critical to it's
placement. On a recent small wall hanging quilt of solid color blocks,
of various colors, the flow of the pattern was obvious and pronounced.
Here, with the colors of the blocks identical, the pattern flow is not
as pronounced, and hence my quandary. I hope to achieve a consensus
from the cognoscenti, that being you, which will end the discussion. I
am afraid it is a right brain/left brain issue and it will forever go
unresolved, and I will just have to flip a coin and hope for the best.
It really does matter in the larger design scheme of things, in
relation to the total design theme, so it would be nice to be right,
and not have to redo anything because of a bad choice. I await your
careful ideas, or random guesses. Whichever you choose to pronounce.
Here is the link
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...00692635KRUHCc

Thanks

John



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Old May 19th 08, 03:51 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
Lizzy Taylor
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John wrote:
I have a problem that has cropped up on the quilt I am working on. My
wife, when she sees it, thinks that the pattern of the hollow blocks
flow from top left to bottom right. creating the cascading effect. I
am not so sure and think the pattern flows from top right to bottom
left. Now in most cases it would be unimportant, but there is going to
be a design element that will be introduced into the quilt at the
bottom that the flow of the block patterns is critical to it's
placement.


I think this type of design looks different to different people and also
different to the same person at different times. Not much help I
know. When you add that extra design element will it over-ride that
perception or will the perspective issue still exist? Sometimes
mentally fixing one plane on this type of design is all it takes to make
(almost) everybody see it the same way.

Lizzy
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Old May 19th 08, 04:08 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
Ann
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Very nice John.
My brain sees the design going from top left to bottom right. I can see the
effect from top right to bottom left but I keep going back to top left to
bottom right.
In your blocks, to me, the hollow rectangles represent the inside of the
stairway step.
Could be just me, being left handed and all, so will see what others think
Ann
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"John" wrote in message
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I have a problem that has cropped up on the quilt I am working on. My
wife, when she sees it, thinks that the pattern of the hollow blocks
flow from top left to bottom right. creating the cascading effect. I
am not so sure and think the pattern flows from top right to bottom
left. Now in most cases it would be unimportant, but there is going to
be a design element that will be introduced into the quilt at the
bottom that the flow of the block patterns is critical to it's
placement. On a recent small wall hanging quilt of solid color blocks,
of various colors, the flow of the pattern was obvious and pronounced.
Here, with the colors of the blocks identical, the pattern flow is not
as pronounced, and hence my quandary. I hope to achieve a consensus
from the cognoscenti, that being you, which will end the discussion. I
am afraid it is a right brain/left brain issue and it will forever go
unresolved, and I will just have to flip a coin and hope for the best.
It really does matter in the larger design scheme of things, in
relation to the total design theme, so it would be nice to be right,
and not have to redo anything because of a bad choice. I await your
careful ideas, or random guesses. Whichever you choose to pronounce.
Here is the link
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...00692635KRUHCc

Thanks

John



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Old May 19th 08, 04:09 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
Kate T.
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I think the problem here is the use of just two colors. to make the
"box" really pop out a third "shade" should have been introduced.

Its like looking at a painting, from what direction is the light
coming . You have it coming from the bottom left.

Kate T. South Mississippi

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Old May 19th 08, 04:11 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
John
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On May 19, 10:46*am, "KJ" wrote:
I can make myself see it both ways. *But my initial reaction was from top
left to bottom right. *Perhaps it's the photo, but it seems there should be
a bit more contrast between the two medium colors.

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...

I have a problem that has cropped up on the quilt I am working on. My
wife, when she sees it, thinks that the pattern of the hollow blocks
flow from top left to bottom right. creating the cascading effect. I
am not so sure and think the pattern flows from top right *to bottom
left. Now in most cases it would be unimportant, but there is going to
be a design element that will be introduced into the quilt at the
bottom that the flow of the block patterns is critical to it's
placement. On a recent small wall hanging quilt of solid color blocks,
of various colors, the flow of the pattern was obvious and pronounced.
Here, with the colors of the blocks identical, the pattern flow is not
as pronounced, and hence my quandary. I hope to achieve a consensus
from the cognoscenti, that being you, which will end the discussion. I
am afraid it is a right brain/left brain issue and it will forever go
unresolved, and I will just have to flip a coin and hope for the best.
It really does matter in the larger design scheme of things, in
relation to the total design theme, *so it would be nice to be right,
and not have to redo anything because of a bad choice. I await your
careful ideas, or random guesses. Whichever you choose to pronounce.
Here is the link
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...00692635KRUHCc


Thanks


John


I think that the color differentiation is lost in the process of
shooting it with a cheap digital camera. There is a bit more in
reality than appears in the photo. The whole idea was to make it a
variation on reds. Subtlety being the overriding theme, before the
introduction of the new element.

John

John
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Old May 19th 08, 04:11 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
John
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On May 19, 10:51*am, Lizzy Taylor
wrote:
John wrote:
I have a problem that has cropped up on the quilt I am working on. My
wife, when she sees it, thinks that the pattern of the hollow blocks
flow from top left to bottom right. creating the cascading effect. I
am not so sure and think the pattern flows from top right *to bottom
left. Now in most cases it would be unimportant, but there is going to
be a design element that will be introduced into the quilt at the
bottom that the flow of the block patterns is critical to it's
placement.


I think this type of design looks different to different people and also
* different to the same person at different times. *Not much help I
know. *When you add that extra design element will it over-ride that
perception or will the perspective issue still exist? *Sometimes
mentally fixing one plane on this type of design is all it takes to make
(almost) everybody see it the same way.

Lizzy


The element that will be introduced will be a continuation of the
theme, but in a different plane. I am sorry I can not be more
specific, because I want to keep it as a surprise, both from myself,
and from everybody who will see it. It is not that earth shattering as
a concept, but I think it will be interesting. If it looks like it
won't work, I can eliminate it before completion, as I will finish the
top and both sides before I complete the bottom. That will allow me to
get the proper perspective on the whole concept. I tend to think it is
able to be seen either way and, as you say, the introduction of the
new element, will fix the vision forever for all to see. but I was
unsure if this is correct. I guess I might just have to take the
plunge based on my best guess and go for it. It is just a bother to
have to undo all the work that would result in a wrong decision having
been made. But, as they say,"That's Quilting".

John
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Old May 19th 08, 04:15 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
John
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On May 19, 11:09*am, "Kate T." wrote:
I think the problem here is the use of just two colors. *to make the
"box" really pop out a third "shade" should have been introduced.

Its like looking at a painting, *from what direction is the light
coming . *You have it coming from the bottom left.

Kate T. *South Mississippi


There are actually three colors. One the dark maroon, another the the
mottled red, the third being an orange red. I apologize for the 2
megapixle camera which doesn't do justice to the difference.

John
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Old May 19th 08, 04:16 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
KJ
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I thought perhaps the photo and/or my monitor might have lost the subtle
shading somewhat. It appears that may be the case.

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"John" wrote in message
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On May 19, 10:46 am, "KJ" wrote:
I can make myself see it both ways. But my initial reaction was from top
left to bottom right. Perhaps it's the photo, but it seems there should be
a bit more contrast between the two medium colors.

--
Kathyl (KJ)
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mchsihttp://community.webshots.com/user/kathylquiltz"John"
wrote in message

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I have a problem that has cropped up on the quilt I am working on. My
wife, when she sees it, thinks that the pattern of the hollow blocks
flow from top left to bottom right. creating the cascading effect. I
am not so sure and think the pattern flows from top right to bottom
left. Now in most cases it would be unimportant, but there is going to
be a design element that will be introduced into the quilt at the
bottom that the flow of the block patterns is critical to it's
placement. On a recent small wall hanging quilt of solid color blocks,
of various colors, the flow of the pattern was obvious and pronounced.
Here, with the colors of the blocks identical, the pattern flow is not
as pronounced, and hence my quandary. I hope to achieve a consensus
from the cognoscenti, that being you, which will end the discussion. I
am afraid it is a right brain/left brain issue and it will forever go
unresolved, and I will just have to flip a coin and hope for the best.
It really does matter in the larger design scheme of things, in
relation to the total design theme, so it would be nice to be right,
and not have to redo anything because of a bad choice. I await your
careful ideas, or random guesses. Whichever you choose to pronounce.
Here is the link
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...00692635KRUHCc


Thanks


John


I think that the color differentiation is lost in the process of
shooting it with a cheap digital camera. There is a bit more in
reality than appears in the photo. The whole idea was to make it a
variation on reds. Subtlety being the overriding theme, before the
introduction of the new element.

John

John


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Old May 19th 08, 04:20 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
KJ
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http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php?p=27

Our differences in perception might be emphasized by this "test". I can
make her go both ways.

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"John" wrote in message
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On May 19, 11:09 am, "Kate T." wrote:
I think the problem here is the use of just two colors. to make the
"box" really pop out a third "shade" should have been introduced.

Its like looking at a painting, from what direction is the light
coming . You have it coming from the bottom left.

Kate T. South Mississippi


There are actually three colors. One the dark maroon, another the the
mottled red, the third being an orange red. I apologize for the 2
megapixle camera which doesn't do justice to the difference.

John


 




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