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How do I setup a studio/workshop for Hydrofluoric Acid Etching?
Hey Moonraker,
How long have you had this 'pretty good bull **** detector' for? I think it's time for you to get it checked and get some professional advice. It look's like it has finally messed up. Hope you have warranty on it. Just kidding. Can we get back to the point now? Regards, Tahir. Moonraker wrote: "FlameNwind" wrote in message news:vU4hg.6030$im3.292@trnddc01... ewww, Moon! Just because of his name???? Puhleeze! Does this mean you wouldn't help someone named Timothy (i.e. McVeigh), especially if his header showed he was from Oklahoma? C'mon...there are over 1.2 million Arab-Americans in the US and nearly 2 million Muslims in Britain. Are we to fear them all and assume they are ALL out to get us? I'd rather be cutting glass... Well, Lori... at the time, McVeigh and his buddies didn't appear suspicious by buying fertilizer and diesel oil, either. And, they were a group of anarchists that hated the US government, not religious fanatics that hate everyone who isn't a fellow raghead. When the Muslim clerics say that they want "death to the infidels", one can only make the assumption that they are not just blowing smoke, so to speak. If you don't think we are deeply engaged in a holy war, you are, I'm afraid, hiding your head in the sand. Fear the Arabs?...no! Trust them? Not as far as I could throw a grand piano. On Sept 12, 2001 I made a decision that I would never directly do business with an Arab again. I have walked into, and right back out of convenience stores, donut shops, and other businesses with an Arab behind the counter. I have turned down LOTS of leaded glass repairs (several thousands of $$$ worth) from folks named Muhammed or the like. I would rather sit in the shop and play solitare than have to deal with one. I'm sure my one-man boycott of Arab-owned businesses in the US hasn't caused any of them to go back where they came from, but, I can hope. Why do business with someone who hates me because I'm American, caucausian, and Christian? Other than the aforementioned McVeigh and a few Irishmen who have a problem with the Queen, there's been darn little happen in the way of terrorism in the last few decades around the globe that wasn't directly attributable to Muslims. So, are they ALL out to get us? Dunno. Problem is, a good number of them are, and which ones? And some nimrod coming on a news group without any apparent history of glass artisanry and being willing to throw lots of money at a system to handle HF sure does make this old grey head wonder. I have a pretty good bull**** detector, and it went off, big time, on this thread. |
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How do I setup a studio/workshop for Hydrofluoric Acid Etching?
Thanks Jack!
I'll contact 'em first thing tomorrow. Regards, Tahir. nJb wrote: ^TahirKanch^ wrote: Hi Harry, Thanks for the advice. Went to the Fire Marshall's office after asking a few people in the city office. All he cared about was I should be in compliance. Didn't know any consultants though. But that is a good direction to go with I believe. I'll try to dig out some consulting firms don't know what they are called though. So I guess, this initiates another subsidiary quest in search of my lost kingdom Contact DuPont chemical. I believe they are a large manufacturer of the stuff in Texas. From my experience, I would wear what is known as an "A" Suit. Heavy rubber, zips to the neck with a hood and supplied breathing air. Usually bright pink so that sane people can avoid you. Jack |
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How do I setup a studio/workshop for Hydrofluoric Acid Etching?
Javahut wrote:
"^TahirKanch^" wrote in message oups.com... Hi Harry, Thanks for the advice. Went to the Fire Marshall's office after asking a few people in the city office. All he cared about was I should be in compliance. Didn't know any consultants though. But that is a good direction to go with I believe. I'll try to dig out some consulting firms don't know what they are called though. So I guess, this initiates another subsidiary quest in search of my lost kingdom First of all, stop being such a top poster, get your response to the bottom so everybody can follow it, lots easier. Next, there is a trade magazine called GLASS which is meant for the residential/ commercial glaziers and factory operators. There are sources in there for everythng glass related, try looking online for the online version, if I can dig up an old copy, I'll post info here for you. there is aclassified listing in the back for everything from automated bevelers to full tempering lines and the consultants who design their layout, same sort of guys can design your set up, all in compliance with all regulations.... THAT is where you start at, and please, put it as close to the Rio Grande River as possible. That way it is far away from me, and that river is already a pit, what can you hurt? Harry wrote: "^TahirKanch^" wrote in message oups.com... Thank you! A person who has seen the results after HF etching would never believe sandblasting would bring the same effect. It is totally different I believe the texture, translucency and the polished finished cannot be duplicated by any other method, well one could try to get the best closest result but I am willing to bet it still won't be the same thing. Thanks everyone for all the good advices. But I stand with the same determination I had before I started the discussion. I need to find how to make a setup here that is compliant to all the regulation. If anyone can please help me directions as how to setup an acid etching facility and any equipment that's used in the setup, it would be a great help. Also I am still confused What is the equipment or setup that's OSHA approved? Where can I find it? I now understand there are no shortcuts in setting up an acid etching facility. I am willing to spend the high dollars but I need all the help or advise I can get as to how to 'efficiently design' that setup? Thanks for all the comments folks. Please keep 'em coming. The best people to ask, are the people that will do the inspecting and regulating, they are gov'mnt officials and work for the taxpayer. If they can not answer your questions, they will know the consultants to help do things correctly and in compliance. They can also keep an eye on your ass in case you are a terrorist intent on poisoning our water supply! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks much! Some how missed your message earlier. Just read it. I'll look that mag up. If you can get a copy of it that'll be fabulous. Appreciate it. |
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How do I setup a studio/workshop for Hydrofluoric Acid Etching?
"^TahirKanch^" wrote in message oups.com... Hey Moonraker, How long have you had this 'pretty good bull **** detector' for? I think it's time for you to get it checked and get some professional advice. It look's like it has finally messed up. Hope you have warranty on it. Just kidding. Can we get back to the point now? Regards, Tahir. The point is what I said first....even if I knew everything about handling HF...no way in hell I'd be giving that info away over usenet, especially to someone with an Arab name. |
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How do I setup a studio/workshop for Hydrofluoric Acid Etching?
Moonraker wrote: "^TahirKanch^" wrote in message oups.com... Hey Moonraker, How long have you had this 'pretty good bull **** detector' for? I think it's time for you to get it checked and get some professional advice. It look's like it has finally messed up. Hope you have warranty on it. Just kidding. Can we get back to the point now? Regards, Tahir. The point is what I said first....even if I knew everything about handling HF...no way in hell I'd be giving that info away over usenet, especially to someone with an Arab name. But you don't know anything about acid etching. Like what I said first to share or not to share is your preference. Who to share with and not to share with is your own issue. I am least bothered by it. FYI: 'Can we get back to the point now' was for the ladies and gentlemen who were trying to help and got distracted by your post. You mentioned you walk out of the stores where you see an arab origin. I am surprised you're still here in this thread. You seem like a man of your word. Just kidding. So ... once again .... Can we get to the point now? ... (OR Can you leave us alone now? if that sounds any better) |
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How do I setup a shower for a racist ? use Hydrofluoric Acid
Hey Moonie....Stop this racist **** right now.
Who the **** are you? What makes you such an authority figure? Why the hell should anyone listen to what you have to say any more than anyone else. Bag the ORDERS Take your racist hate spew over to some supreamist group where they appreciate your kind. Jesus H. Christ why do this here. Because the suspicion is here, going to keep your head stuck in the sand and say, " Oh, I didn't realize he was going to do that!!!" All a racist really needs is a nice long spraydown in a quartz cleaning HFshower to become truly washed of their sins. HF Cures Racism wooo hoooo finally theres a cure try it moonraker... better then Jimmy Jones Koolaid Why , have you tried them both?? Kraig Richard WHO??? |
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How do I setup a shower for a racist ? use Hydrofluoric Acid
Hey Moonie....Stop this racist **** right now. Take your racist hate spew over to some supreamist group where they appreciate your kind. Jesus H. Christ why do this here. All a racist really needs is a nice long spraydown in a quartz cleaning HFshower to become truly washed of their sins. HF Cures Racism wooo hoooo finally theres a cure try it moonraker... better then Jimmy Jones Koolaid Kraig Richard On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:10:46 -0400, "Moonraker" wrote: "FlameNwind" wrote in message news:vU4hg.6030$im3.292@trnddc01... ewww, Moon! Just because of his name???? Puhleeze! Does this mean you wouldn't help someone named Timothy (i.e. McVeigh), especially if his header showed he was from Oklahoma? C'mon...there are over 1.2 million Arab-Americans in the US and nearly 2 million Muslims in Britain. Are we to fear them all and assume they are ALL out to get us? I'd rather be cutting glass... Well, Lori... at the time, McVeigh and his buddies didn't appear suspicious by buying fertilizer and diesel oil, either. And, they were a group of anarchists that hated the US government, not religious fanatics that hate everyone who isn't a fellow raghead. When the Muslim clerics say that they want "death to the infidels", one can only make the assumption that they are not just blowing smoke, so to speak. If you don't think we are deeply engaged in a holy war, you are, I'm afraid, hiding your head in the sand. Fear the Arabs?...no! Trust them? Not as far as I could throw a grand piano. On Sept 12, 2001 I made a decision that I would never directly do business with an Arab again. I have walked into, and right back out of convenience stores, donut shops, and other businesses with an Arab behind the counter. I have turned down LOTS of leaded glass repairs (several thousands of $$$ worth) from folks named Muhammed or the like. I would rather sit in the shop and play solitare than have to deal with one. I'm sure my one-man boycott of Arab-owned businesses in the US hasn't caused any of them to go back where they came from, but, I can hope. Why do business with someone who hates me because I'm American, caucausian, and Christian? Other than the aforementioned McVeigh and a few Irishmen who have a problem with the Queen, there's been darn little happen in the way of terrorism in the last few decades around the globe that wasn't directly attributable to Muslims. So, are they ALL out to get us? Dunno. Problem is, a good number of them are, and which ones? And some nimrod coming on a news group without any apparent history of glass artisanry and being willing to throw lots of money at a system to handle HF sure does make this old grey head wonder. I have a pretty good bull**** detector, and it went off, big time, on this thread. |
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How do I setup a shower for a racist ? use Hydrofluoric Acid
Javahut wrote:
Hey Moonie....Stop this racist **** right now. Who the **** are you? What makes you such an authority figure? Why the hell should anyone listen to what you have to say any more than anyone else. Bag the ORDERS Take your racist hate spew over to some supreamist group where they appreciate your kind. Jesus H. Christ why do this here. Because the suspicion is here, going to keep your head stuck in the sand and say, " Oh, I didn't realize he was going to do that!!!" All a racist really needs is a nice long spraydown in a quartz cleaning HFshower to become truly washed of their sins. HF Cures Racism wooo hoooo finally theres a cure try it moonraker... better then Jimmy Jones Koolaid Why , have you tried them both?? Kraig Richard WHO??? It's alright folks. Please cut this out now. It's not going to benefit anyone by dragging this any far. It's just a waste of everyone's time. Please put it to some good use. The blame was on me. I didn't take it too seriously. Just because someone says something really doesn't make it a fact. Why even bother? Once again. I appreciate the people who tried to help. I'll try my best to setup the safest studio possible (if one can be setup here in a safe and economical manner, otherwise I won't do so). The first sample I make (if I am successful, hopefully) I'll make sure I post a picture here and share it with you all first. I appreciate you all doing a great job in helping eachother out here. This is a great place to share the knowledge. Please don't make it a battlefield. Best regards, Tahir. REC.CRAFT.GLASS Help. Learn. Achieve. Enjoy! |
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How do I setup a shower for a racist ? use Hydrofluoric Acid
It's alright folks. Please cut this out now. It's not going to benefit anyone by dragging this any far. It's just a waste of everyone's time. Please put it to some good use. The blame was on me. I didn't take it too seriously. Just because someone says something really doesn't make it a fact. Why even bother? Once again. I appreciate the people who tried to help. I'll try my best to setup the safest studio possible (if one can be setup here in a safe and economical manner, otherwise I won't do so). The first sample I make (if I am successful, hopefully) I'll make sure I post a picture here and share it with you all first. I appreciate you all doing a great job in helping eachother out here. This is a great place to share the knowledge. Please don't make it a battlefield. Best regards, Tahir. Whether you are, or aren't anythng in particular is of no interest to me, I take great offense, as much a Kraig doe sto racism, to authoritarian attitutude. Giving orders on the internet is totally useless, but the attitude that one should "wake up an pay attention to what *they* have" to say is rediculous. and it ****es me off... |
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How do I setup a shower for a racist ? use Hydrofluoric Acid
"optiplex" wrote in message ... Hey Moonie....Stop this racist **** right now. Take your racist hate spew over to some supreamist group where they appreciate your kind. (Rest of Stupid **** Snipped) Obviously you are a product of guv'mint schools, ain'tcha? You don't even have a clue what the word racist means. |
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