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Old May 27th 07, 11:20 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Default Sustainability: Knocking up a Fort Knox.

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All factual and all possible.

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Old May 27th 07, 11:09 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 10:20:58 GMT in rec.crafts.jewelry Y
, intended to write something intelligible, but
instead wrote :

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.c...caadf9d105ecf0

All factual and all possible.

-y


TURNING LEAD INTO GOLD
THE LONGEST LIST OF THE LONGEST STUFF AT THE LONGEST DOMAIN NAME AT
LONG LAST
Can it actually be done?
Can Lead be turned into Gold?

The elusive and secretive study of Alchemy (the science of turning
base metal elements into rare and sought after gold) dates back for
centuries upon centuries. In present day scientific practices there
are now several forms of Alchemy.....Islamic Alchemy dating back as
far as 109 A.D. ... known Muslim alchemists are Jabir ibn Haiyen and
Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn Zakariyya al-Razi, then there is Indian Alchemy
which first began somewhere around the third or fourth century B.C.
Indian alchemy consists of several different sub groups which are
spiritual Alchemy and Tantric Alchemy just to name a few. Chinese
Alchemy is another form of this elusive and secretive art known as
alchemy that began around the time of the tang period. Sometimes the
tang period is defined as the “golden age” of external alchemy that
went through a transition to internal Alchemy. The shift from external
alchemy to the internal alchemy requires further, in depth studies to
be further evaluated.

Thousands and thousands of years ago, dating as far back as the
medieval times, scientists such as the illustrious natural philosopher
Sir Isaac Newton (born in 1642, passed in 1727) and the famous
American scientist Glen Seaborg (born 1912 and passed away in 1999)
practiced a very ancient, but highly secretive form of science that
was known as alchemy (not to be confused with chemistry). Alchemy is
known as the science of turning base metals (such as lead) into highly
sought after gold. It was not until around the year nine-teen eighty
(1980) that well known American scientist Glen Seaborg transformed
thousands of atoms of lead into precious gold at the Lawrence Berkeley
Laboratory. Mr. Glen Seaborg had discovered that by changing the
atomic number in the element lead you would actually cause the lead
itself to turn into this highly sought after and coveted substance
known as gold. Although Mr.Glen Seaborg’s technique (using nuclear
physics) was successful, Glen Seaborg soon discovered that the process
he was using was entirely too expensive and impractical to be of use
to turn lead into gold for routine manufacturing purposes and the gain
of wealth.

Mr. Glen Seaborg was appointed a professor of chemistry in the year
1946 at the University of California and five years later he received
the reward of the Nobel Prize for his discovery of plutonium. He later
continued researching about transuranic elements and helped name
nobelium(1957),fermium(1953),berkelium(1949),mende levium(1955),einsteinium(1952),
and californium(1950).

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Old May 27th 07, 11:29 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Peter W.. Rowe,
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Default Sustainability: Knocking up a Fort Knox.

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:09:25 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Frosty
wrote:


TURNING LEAD INTO GOLD
THE LONGEST LIST OF THE LONGEST STUFF AT THE LONGEST DOMAIN NAME AT
LONG LAST
Can it actually be done?
Can Lead be turned into Gold?


Sure. Been done. Can't do it via chemistry, since chemical reactions involve
only electron shells of atoms, bonding varous atoms together in various ways to
make different materials. Changing an element into another element means
changing the number of neutrons and protons in the atomic nucleus. This is, of
course, exactly what happens in stars to turn hydrogen into an array of heavier
elements, up to about oxygen, if I recall. Things heavier than that get formed
in explosive Novas and supernovas. Kinda neat to think the birthplace of
heavier oxitic materials and precious gold, and for that matter, the iron
without which the hemoglobin in your blood would not exist and you'd not be
here, is the crucible formed when a star dies. Star death equals the birth of
new materials. Kinda nice that the birth/death/rebirth cycle applies as much
to stars and elements as it does to living things.

Now, down to earth, all ya gotta do to turn lead into gold, is to add the
appropriate number of neutrons and protons. And unless someone actually figures
out table top nuclear fusion (unlikely any time soon), for that you need a good
particle accelerator. That'll take a good deal of gold to finance in the first
place, and a bit of real estate, and who knows whatall else. No doubt, some
costly licensing from the Nuclear regulatory commission, or the like... , and a
bunch of energy to run once you've built it. Not likely to be a good backyard
project...

Better ways to turn lead into gold:

1. Buy a lead mine. Or old car batteries. Or otherwise, obtain lead cheaply.
2. Sell lead on the metals/commodity market for a profit.
3. Use profits to buy gold.

or for jewelers,

1. Buy lead.
2. Make weird and wonderful lead jewelry. Or maybe fishing sinkers or
something.
3. Sell for lots of cash. It may help to use it's nickle free status as a
marketing aid. Can also be sold as a nice mostly white metal that's cheaper
than platinum or silver, for the budget concious. Don't sell to little kids
who might eat it.
4. Use the cash to buy gold.

Peter

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Old May 29th 07, 07:35 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Y wrote:
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All factual and all possible.

-y


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