Way OF--I need a shoulder

My Puff is a little Maltese. He has thrown up before but not like this.
This time he's really sick, and wasn't able to control either end for a few
days. He does seem a little better now so hopefully this will go away just
the way it came and he'll go back to having the occasional upset stomach
that I expect from a dog.

Thanks very much for the support and, your shoulder feels wonderful. )

Lucille.



"Debby Wayne" wrote in message
...
Know how you feel....what type of dog is it? I have a wee lil 'taco
bell' dog and shes prone to have upset stomachs once in a while. It can
be a mess but thats just a mild inconvience of being a pet owner.
Here's my shoulder.... LOL

I know whenever my poor Rorie was sick with a tummy problem (she was a 6 lb
long hair Chihuahua) the vet had me give her 2 cc's of PeptoBismal and
Gatorade to drink (though get the store brand of pedialite) to keep from
getting dehydrated. And lots of quality cuddle time with an old blanket or
towel around her and nearby. Hope puff gets better soon ( and you get a
little R and R).

--
Angel
My family are the golden threads running
through the tapestry of my life.
My friends are the silver threads running
through the tapestry of my life.
The gold and silver in my tapestry show
happiness, love, sadness, togetherness.
And most important of all love.

Oh lucille i just fel your pain ,, and having Nursed my Late Dog for a
year ,, [including carrying him out to do what he needed ]
hold on mirjam


I need just a small shoulder to cry on. My little dog has been sick for the
past two weeks with a serious upset stomach, and all the mess that goes with
it. I've been back and forth to the Vet 5 times, twice to see the doctor
and three times for different meds and foods. Fortunately my vet is just a
very short distance so it's not too difficult for me to get there.

I'm reluctant to leave him alone just in case he has to go to the bathroom
quickly and/or he has to throw up so I've been stuck in for most of this
time and I'm going slightly stir crazy. And, of course, I'm feeling really
sorry for him. The Vet seems to think this problem will resolve itself soon
and I sure hope he's right.

Lucille
.

I had the same thing happen to our dog! We were told by friends that
the vets are in with the major dog food manufacturers, and what we
needed to do is get some real meat for our dog. Our dog was so sick by
this time that his ribs were sticking out. He looked like a skeleton of
a dog, and all his hair fell out from his constant scratching and
biting. We went to the butcher shop and asked for some meat for our
dogs. Turns out they have been inundated with dog owners with digestive
problems, so they now sell what they call 'dog food'. We get 100 lbs.
of frozen meat cut into one lb. blocks for $45.00 Canadian. It took 3
months of 'baked meatloaf' for our dog, but he's finally put the weight
back on and most of his hair. Seems it was the pig swill the commercial
dog food companies are feeding the dogs after all. Good luck with your
pet.

Maureen In Vancouver, B.C.

Lucille wrote:

I need just a small shoulder to cry on. My little dog has been sick for the
past two weeks with a serious upset stomach, and all the mess that goes with
it. I've been back and forth to the Vet 5 times, twice to see the doctor
and three times for different meds and foods. Fortunately my vet is just a
very short distance so it's not too difficult for me to get there.

I'm reluctant to leave him alone just in case he has to go to the bathroom
quickly and/or he has to throw up so I've been stuck in for most of this
time and I'm going slightly stir crazy. And, of course, I'm feeling really
sorry for him. The Vet seems to think this problem will resolve itself soon
and I sure hope he's right.

Lucille
.

--
Maureen Miller C.H.

When our dog was off our food we gave her raw minced steak for a while,
which she ate - but the vet said that too much unadulterated protein would
put too much strain on her kidneys. Privately I thought that wild dogs etc.
ate just meat, on the whole. I`m still wondering.

Pat P

"Russell Miller" wrote in message
...
I had the same thing happen to our dog! We were told by friends that
the vets are in with the major dog food manufacturers, and what we
needed to do is get some real meat for our dog. Our dog was so sick by
this time that his ribs were sticking out. He looked like a skeleton of
a dog, and all his hair fell out from his constant scratching and
biting. We went to the butcher shop and asked for some meat for our
dogs. Turns out they have been inundated with dog owners with digestive
problems, so they now sell what they call 'dog food'. We get 100 lbs.
of frozen meat cut into one lb. blocks for $45.00 Canadian. It took 3
months of 'baked meatloaf' for our dog, but he's finally put the weight
back on and most of his hair. Seems it was the pig swill the commercial
dog food companies are feeding the dogs after all. Good luck with your
pet.

Maureen In Vancouver, B.C.

Lucille wrote:

I need just a small shoulder to cry on. My little dog has been sick for
the
past two weeks with a serious upset stomach, and all the mess that goes
with
it. I've been back and forth to the Vet 5 times, twice to see the
doctor
and three times for different meds and foods. Fortunately my vet is
just a
very short distance so it's not too difficult for me to get there.

I'm reluctant to leave him alone just in case he has to go to the
bathroom
quickly and/or he has to throw up so I've been stuck in for most of this
time and I'm going slightly stir crazy. And, of course, I'm feeling
really
sorry for him. The Vet seems to think this problem will resolve itself
soon
and I sure hope he's right.

Lucille
.

--
Maureen Miller C.H.

Pat Porter wrote:
When our dog was off our food we gave her raw minced steak for a while,
which she ate - but the vet said that too much unadulterated protein would
put too much strain on her kidneys. Privately I thought that wild dogs etc.
ate just meat, on the whole. I`m still wondering.

Not just meat, but raw meat, veggies and fruits. Dogs have trouble
digesting raw veggies on their own, though, so they prefer it
pre-digested, which is why they like to clean up after cows and sheep.
Since that's not what I want in my kitchen, I use a blender to
"pre-digest" veggies for our dogs.

Check this out: http://www.barfworld.com/

Elizabeth
--
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~living well is the best revenge~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
The most important thing one woman can do for another is to illuminate
and expand her sense of actual possibilities. --Adrienne Rich
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Once again I come in too late to a thread to be much help! I will just make
a few points which you are free to take or leave as you like.
- When feeding bland food, chicken is my preferred meat (without skin or
bones). Mince, especially hamburger as someone else suggested is much too
fatty and will actually make some conditions worse.
- Tylan is an antibiotic. While I have no problem with this being used in
the short term for bacterial overgrowth and so on, it should not be a long
term treatment. If the diarrhoea returns then I would have a faecal
analysis performed. If vomiting is also present then blood tests +/- x-rays
are indicated.
- Dogs are omnivores. In the wild they would eat fruit and vegetables as
well as their prey. When they killed an animal they would also eat the
skin, bones and intestinal contents and get a balanced diet that way.
- There is not a great conspiracy between vets and pet food companies.
- Whoever said vets are smarter than human doctors (was it Pat?) - a truer
word was never spoken, LOL! Thank you.

Amanda (vet)

"Lucille" wrote in message
...
Just an update--so far My Puff seems a little better today , not yet
perfect, but definitely improved. He's eating ok and so far his stomach
problem seems to be a lot better. He's on a very bland diet and still
on
the medicine, and I'm hoping that after a while I can reintroduce his
regular diet and get him off the med.

Thanks for all the good thoughts.

Lucille and Puff

the "Pat Porter" wrote in message
...
When our dog was off our food we gave her raw minced steak for a while,
which she ate - but the vet said that too much unadulterated protein
would
put too much strain on her kidneys. Privately I thought that wild dogs
etc.
ate just meat, on the whole. I`m still wondering.

Pat P

"

"Dr. Brat" wrote in message
...
Pat Porter wrote:
When our dog was off our food we gave her raw minced steak for a while,
which she ate - but the vet said that too much unadulterated protein
would
put too much strain on her kidneys. Privately I thought that wild dogs
etc.
ate just meat, on the whole. I`m still wondering.

Not just meat, but raw meat, veggies and fruits. Dogs have trouble
digesting raw veggies on their own, though, so they prefer it
pre-digested, which is why they like to clean up after cows and sheep.
Since that's not what I want in my kitchen, I use a blender to
"pre-digest" veggies for our dogs.

Check this out: http://www.barfworld.com/

Elizabeth

Oh, I agree, but this particular one (Emma) has always been a devil to feed
at any time - never has been the pig that most Cavaliers are. Hates dog
biscuits, hates veg in any form, hates any sort of "official" dog-food,
after raising our hopes by "liking" it for a day or two. We`ve tried just
taking it away after she`s turned her nose up once again, AND leaving it
down so she knows that nothing else is forthcoming - but she just turns her
nose up and will go for literally DAYS without eating.

She`s nine years old, so isn`t going to change now. Apart from the heart
condition, she`s fine and active, healthy, gets plenty of walks, and her
digestive system is normal. Mind you, she`s a funny little character in many
ways but at least her only vice is the thing with food! The vet says she`s
manipulating us, but she`s wrong there I`m afraid! Emm`s one of a kind! At
least she doesn`t have the weight problem that many Cavaliers are prone to.

The other one (and all the many others we`ve had) have been totally the
other way - will just eat anything and everything available - including
pieces of apple, orange, cherries, carrots, grapes - and MELON - I`ve never
met a dog apart from Emm of course, who didn`t like melon! You have to be
careful with grapes or raisins though, as they can be dangerous if you let
them have too many.

Pat P.

Thanks Amanda,
Thanks for the information. I personally really would like to keep Puff on
pet food. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think they spend all that money to
do research to get the right balance just to hurt the animals and it's sure
less of a bother. The Hills I/D diet that Puff is eating is chicken and
supposedly very low fat and very low fiber and actually his vet did do a
fecal analysis. He's holding off on the blood tests and/or x-rays until we
see if he absolutely needs them.

This whole thing might be stress related. Puff is a bit of a wimp and he had
a problem with a puppy we're trying to get him to be friendly with.
Hopefully the puppy will be less of a problem because he was neutered last
week and from what I understand the testosterone problem usually eases after
about 1 month. If the upset stomach comes back we may also have to think in
terms of allergy. Unfortunately, where I live they spray the grass with
pesticides and there's nothing I can do to stop them.

So far he's a lot better so I think we'll just keep him on the food and meds
for the time being and let his stomach have a good rest. Then we'll see in
a few weeks if we can get him back to "normal diet" and no meds.

Incidentally, I absolutely agree Vets are better than M.D.'s and a heck of a
lot more compassionate than most human doctors.

Lucille


"Amanda Reynolds" wrote in message
...
Once again I come in too late to a thread to be much help! I will just
make
a few points which you are free to take or leave as you like.
- When feeding bland food, chicken is my preferred meat (without skin or
bones). Mince, especially hamburger as someone else suggested is much too
fatty and will actually make some conditions worse.
- Tylan is an antibiotic. While I have no problem with this being used in
the short term for bacterial overgrowth and so on, it should not be a long
term treatment. If the diarrhoea returns then I would have a faecal
analysis performed. If vomiting is also present then blood tests +/-
x-rays
are indicated.
- Dogs are omnivores. In the wild they would eat fruit and vegetables as
well as their prey. When they killed an animal they would also eat the
skin, bones and intestinal contents and get a balanced diet that way.
- There is not a great conspiracy between vets and pet food companies.
- Whoever said vets are smarter than human doctors (was it Pat?) - a truer
word was never spoken, LOL! Thank you.

Amanda (vet)

"Pat Porter" wrote in message ...
When our dog was off our food we gave her raw minced steak for a while,
which she ate - but the vet said that too much unadulterated protein would
put too much strain on her kidneys. Privately I thought that wild dogs etc.
ate just meat, on the whole. I`m still wondering.


No, wolves et al. do not eat just meat -- since they devour all edible
portions of their prey they will get some vegetable matter when they
eat the stomach of whatever they took down.

The wolves at Wolf Park in Battleground, Indiana love fresh fruit --
you should see them with a freshly hacked-apart watermelon! The coyote
at the park climbs the apple tree in his enclosure to eat the
apples...

My Japanese Chin loves steamed veggies, especially cauliflower and
broccoli; and he will eat some fruit as well.

Lori Coulson