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Old August 16th 04, 06:08 PM
Karen in MN
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Just a thought, came to me when someone asked a question about circular
knitting --

If you work on a circular needle and DELIBERATELY twist before joining --
wouldn't this create a moebius?

Thanks,

Karen in MN


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Old August 16th 04, 07:11 PM
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It should.
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(closing eyes and picturing... Hmm)

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"Karen in MN" ask.me.for.my.email.address wrote in message
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Just a thought, came to me when someone asked a question about circular
knitting --

If you work on a circular needle and DELIBERATELY twist before joining --
wouldn't this create a moebius?

Thanks,

Karen in MN




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Old August 16th 04, 07:24 PM
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Nope. If you put one complete twist in hte cast on prior to joining
you get a 360 twist, not a 180. IIRC, Elizabeth (or possibly Maggie)
worked out that you CAN make a moebius in the round - join as for
plain circular knitting and on the SECOND round put in half a twist -
ie, as you come around to the first stitch of the round, knit into the
cast-on edge. Or maybe that's for fixing an unintentional twist?

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:08:58 -0500, "Karen in MN"
ask.me.for.my.email.address wrote:

Just a thought, came to me when someone asked a question about circular
knitting --

If you work on a circular needle and DELIBERATELY twist before joining --
wouldn't this create a moebius?

Thanks,

Karen in MN


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Old August 17th 04, 05:40 AM
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"Slinky" wrote in message
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Nope. If you put one complete twist in hte cast on prior to joining
you get a 360 twist, not a 180. IIRC, Elizabeth (or possibly Maggie)
worked out that you CAN make a moebius in the round - join as for
plain circular knitting and on the SECOND round put in half a twist -
ie, as you come around to the first stitch of the round, knit into the
cast-on edge. Or maybe that's for fixing an unintentional twist?

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:08:58 -0500, "Karen in MN"
ask.me.for.my.email.address wrote:

Just a thought, came to me when someone asked a question about circular
knitting --

If you work on a circular needle and DELIBERATELY twist before joining --
wouldn't this create a moebius?

Thanks,

Karen in MN


Cat Bordhi's new book "Magical Treasury of Knitting" that JUST came out is
almost EXCLUSIVELY on the subject of Moebius.

JM2C

JJMolvik


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Old August 17th 04, 10:03 AM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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Our expert on the knitted moebious is Ria , i have `some` expertise on
the Crocheted moebious .
A twist alone is not enough , stiches should be cast on ,, so that in
the middle of the moebious there are stiches FACING eachother ,,
and when you later knit or crochet you enlarge it out from the middle
mirjam

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Old August 17th 04, 07:02 PM
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"James Bailey" wrote in message
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http://www.planetshoup.com/easy/knit/scarfmb.shtml

Is a pattern for one. I've made it and it really is a surreal

experience.
I just followed the directions even though it didn't make sense, and

it
eventually worked.


Ooooow! That looks really neat, I think I'll give it a go in the next
few weeks.


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Old August 17th 04, 07:52 PM
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In article , James Bailey
wrote:

Yes, to make a moebius scarf you cast on and instead of knitting the first
round as normal, you knit into the cast on row from the bottom, and then
knit into the regular stitches as normal.

http://www.planetshoup.com/easy/knit/scarfmb.shtml

Is a pattern for one. I've made it and it really is a surreal experience.
I just followed the directions even though it didn't make sense, and it
eventually worked.



I used a similar pattern that was in Spin Off magazine Fall 2002 page 54,
It is indeed amazing how well it works out. You cast on the stitches by
putting half hitches on your needle when you have the amound needed.

Now quoted for the magazine verbatum....:"after you finish casting on,
hold both the last stitch you cast on and the yarn at the tip of the left
needle, then work back, using the tip of the right needle to pick up a
second set of stitches along the bottom of the cast-on row. Pick up the
first stitch by purling. After that you can pick up the remaining
stitches by knitting or purling. According to your pattern. As you
proceed the circular needle willgradually double around on itself. When
you have picked up al the way around, the two points of the neddle will
face each other."

When I did it it was easy to do and it did create the cicle with a half a
twist in it.

Els

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Old August 18th 04, 02:47 AM
Dawn Cherni
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Hi Mirjam,
Do you know where I could find a crochet pattern for one I have knitted one
but I crochet fast then I knit. I would like to make one to go with my
winter jacket this year.

Dawn

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
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Our expert on the knitted moebious is Ria , i have `some` expertise on
the Crocheted moebious .
A twist alone is not enough , stiches should be cast on ,, so that in
the middle of the moebious there are stiches FACING eachother ,,
and when you later knit or crochet you enlarge it out from the middle
mirjam



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Old August 18th 04, 03:30 AM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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Send me yyour email , or look at the files of this ng , i have MY
pattern of moebious ... i can send to you , mirjam

Hi Mirjam,
Do you know where I could find a crochet pattern for one I have knitted one
but I crochet fast then I knit. I would like to make one to go with my
winter jacket this year.

Dawn

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
...
Our expert on the knitted moebious is Ria , i have `some` expertise on
the Crocheted moebious .
A twist alone is not enough , stiches should be cast on ,, so that in
the middle of the moebious there are stiches FACING eachother ,,
and when you later knit or crochet you enlarge it out from the middle
mirjam




 




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