Off Topic getting Patterns in braille!!

I use a single chain stitch between dc3 clusters on straight edges, and 3
chains on the corners. I've heard other variations from others in this group
(rcty). David



On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Karen C - California wrote:

Which brings us back to your problem with crocheting ... the same one a lot
of us had when we were starting out and finally got it right after a lot of
practice. You're getting a decreasing triangle because you're forgetting to
put a stitch into your turning chain of the row before. You can figure out
where you're going wrong by making a very narrow practice piece with a number
of stitches you can easily count (five or six is good). On each row, count
the stitches you're making, and you'll quickly figure out which stitches
should get a stitch in them to keep the stitch count the same from row to
row.

As for granny squares, just keep telling yourself that a sighted person can
do them with the lights out, and your fingers see better than mine do, so you
can do it, too.

Fist of all, what is tating? Hope I spelled that right.. I have heard
of it but not sure of the concept of it..
Second, I uh will give it a try on the crocheting.. Just going to wait
till I can have enough patience to tell myself I can do this.. You know
like the little engine that could???
I have lots of hooks around. But haven't used them in quitye sometime
unless I need to pickup stitches I dropped from my knitting patterns..
BTW David I checked out your webpage.. I am planning to go and signup
to some of the groups you have there..
Wish there more.. I looked in google groups, but I haven't seen int he
crafts section.. Have you come across any other than this usenet
group??
Take care and stay cool everyone..
It is getting pretty ot here and I just got back from filling up our
big water bottle at the local water store a a block down the street
from me..
sigh
Glad to be home and under the fan..
Portia
David R. Sky wrote:
I use a single chain stitch between dc3 clusters on straight edges, and 3
chains on the corners. I've heard other variations from others in this group
(rcty). David



On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Karen C - California wrote:

Which brings us back to your problem with crocheting ... the same one a lot
of us had when we were starting out and finally got it right after a lot of
practice. You're getting a decreasing triangle because you're forgetting to
put a stitch into your turning chain of the row before. You can figure out
where you're going wrong by making a very narrow practice piece with a number
of stitches you can easily count (five or six is good). On each row, count
the stitches you're making, and you'll quickly figure out which stitches
should get a stitch in them to keep the stitch count the same from row to
row.

As for granny squares, just keep telling yourself that a sighted person can
do them with the lights out, and your fingers see better than mine do, so you
can do it, too.

angel_crafter wrote:
Hi again..
I have a question.. Does anyone in here knit that is blind or is
vissually impaired?? I recall that someone told me when I joined, that
there is someone that is blind.. Well, I am trying to find a place that
will do my patterns in braille. I sent some paterns to the Braille
Institute.. They did not get my email and I have to try again to send
it tomorrow.. I had hoped that someone was to be done and I could get a
quote as the cost of my patterns I found on the net that are easy for
me to try out..
Anyway, If anyone has any ideas as to where I can go and getting them
brailled, I will gladdly appraiciate any help you can give me..
I find lots of things on several sites, but a lot of them have to be
written out since there are so many steps for them..
I have a couple of tank patterns I wan to try out and make for myself
to wear for the well rest o the summer.. But, who knows how long it
will be before that happens..
Plus so other things I found that look easy to start before I am ready
for the more advanced technique in knitting..
Thanks so much..
Portia/California
Ask this group he http://community.livejournal.com/braille_talk/
They will glady help you.
Pam-Doggirl3

Hi Portia,

That web page is pretty new, two or three weeks at most. I asked some other
blind crafters what groups there were and did quite a google search, those
were the only groups I found. I don't know about other usenet groups besides
rec.crafts.textiles.yarn which as I wrote on my site has mostly sighted
readers and posters... you posted your question to a second group
simultaneously - rec.crafts.textiles.needlework, which I hadn't known about
previously. I'll do another search later when I've got time,
there must be usenet groups specifically for blind people too.

Did you want me to mail you a granny square?

Cheers,

David



On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, angel_crafter wrote:

BTW David I checked out your webpage.. I am planning to go and signup
to some of the groups you have there..
Wish there more.. I looked in google groups, but I haven't seen int he
crafts section.. Have you come across any other than this usenet
group??
Take care and stay cool everyone..
It is getting pretty ot here and I just got back from filling up our
big water bottle at the local water store a a block down the street
from me..
sigh
Glad to be home and under the fan..
Portia
David R. Sky wrote:
I use a single chain stitch between dc3 clusters on straight edges, and 3
chains on the corners. I've heard other variations from others in this group
(rcty). David



On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Karen C - California wrote:

Which brings us back to your problem with crocheting ... the same one a lot
of us had when we were starting out and finally got it right after a lot of
practice. You're getting a decreasing triangle because you're forgetting to
put a stitch into your turning chain of the row before. You can figure out
where you're going wrong by making a very narrow practice piece with a number
of stitches you can easily count (five or six is good). On each row, count
the stitches you're making, and you'll quickly figure out which stitches
should get a stitch in them to keep the stitch count the same from row to
row.

As for granny squares, just keep telling yourself that a sighted person can
do them with the lights out, and your fingers see better than mine do, so you
can do it, too.

angel_crafter wrote:
Fist of all, what is tating?

In a single word, lace.

Typically, you work with your thread wound on a shuttle, and tie knots
in the end of the thread that's wrapped around your hand. There's only
one stitch to learn, but there's a tricky maneuver required to do it
right, and that's the part I couldn't get from the pictures in a book.

--
Karen C - California

Finished 7/4/06 - needlepoint calendar canvas for August
WIP: Getting all the UFOs done, July birthstone, Flowers of
Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!!, Farmers Market (TIAG#8)
Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel
LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn,
Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe

www.CFSfacts.org where we give you the facts and dispel the myths
Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf

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Hi Karen
I had the same trouble getting the "flip" in tatting and found the only way
to learn was to have someone show me, so I did a weekend course at a craft
school in mid Wales. Very beautiful country and a very useful course taught
by a lady called L:yn Morton, who has produced books of tatting patterns.
She doesn't advocate the "flip" but a gentler technique. Her website is

http://www.tatting.co.uk/

and I would recommend (if you can get hold of it) an open out poster called
"Learn Tatting with Lacet" really cheap but very well done (or at least I
found it so) Lyn also sells great tatting threads, shuttles and
accessories.
HTH
Love & higs
Christine

"Karen C - California" wrote in message
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angel_crafter wrote:
Fist of all, what is tating?

In a single word, lace.

Typically, you work with your thread wound on a shuttle, and tie knots in
the end of the thread that's wrapped around your hand. There's only one
stitch to learn, but there's a tricky maneuver required to do it right,
and that's the part I couldn't get from the pictures in a book.

--
Karen C - California

Finished 7/4/06 - needlepoint calendar canvas for August
WIP: Getting all the UFOs done, July birthstone, Flowers of
Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!!, Farmers Market (TIAG#8)
Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel
LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn,
Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe

www.CFSfacts.org where we give you the facts and dispel the myths
Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf

See my designs exclusively at www.TyWolfeDesigns.com

Editor/Proofreader http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html

Christine in Kent, Garden of England wrote:

Hi Karen I had the same trouble getting the "flip" in tatting


The problem was, none of the books ever said "flip the stitches". My
best reading of them was "knot-knot, stitch is done", and then couldn't
figure out why the ring wouldn't pull closed.

Then a dorm-mate's mom came to visit, and I'd heard she tatted, so I
commented on my problem. Of course, neither of us had a shuttle on us
at the moment, but all it took was Mrs. H asking "do you flip the
stitches to the other thread?" Ummm noooooooooo. I didn't know I was
supposed to.

She offered to show me when they got back from lunch, but by the time
they got back I already had it figured out just from her verbal
explanation to flex and pop.

When I teach, I use a red thread and a white thread, and first set the
student to making a chain. The mnemonic is "if you see red when you're
done with the stitch, you're going to 'see red' when you try to close
your ring." When they show me a couple inches of all-white chain (after
the inevitable candy cane stripes at the beginning), then I show them
how to loop around and make a ring, which closes properly the first time
because we can see immediately when they make a mistake and go over how
to correct it.



--
Karen C - California

Finished 7/4/06 - needlepoint calendar canvas for August
WIP: Getting all the UFOs done, July birthstone, Flowers of
Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!!, Farmers Market (TIAG#8)
Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel
LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn,
Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe

www.CFSfacts.org where we give you the facts and dispel the myths
Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf

See my designs exclusively at www.TyWolfeDesigns.com

Editor/Proofreader http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html

Great trick Karen, I wish someone had shown me that when I started
Love & higs
Christine


"Karen C - California" wrote in message
...
Christine in Kent, Garden of England wrote:

Hi Karen I had the same trouble getting the "flip" in tatting


The problem was, none of the books ever said "flip the stitches". My
best reading of them was "knot-knot, stitch is done", and then couldn't
figure out why the ring wouldn't pull closed.

Then a dorm-mate's mom came to visit, and I'd heard she tatted, so I
commented on my problem. Of course, neither of us had a shuttle on us at
the moment, but all it took was Mrs. H asking "do you flip the stitches to
the other thread?" Ummm noooooooooo. I didn't know I was supposed to.

She offered to show me when they got back from lunch, but by the time they
got back I already had it figured out just from her verbal explanation to
flex and pop.

When I teach, I use a red thread and a white thread, and first set the
student to making a chain. The mnemonic is "if you see red when you're
done with the stitch, you're going to 'see red' when you try to close your
ring." When they show me a couple inches of all-white chain (after the
inevitable candy cane stripes at the beginning), then I show them how to
loop around and make a ring, which closes properly the first time because
we can see immediately when they make a mistake and go over how to correct
it.



--
Karen C - California

Finished 7/4/06 - needlepoint calendar canvas for August
WIP: Getting all the UFOs done, July birthstone, Flowers of
Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!!, Farmers Market (TIAG#8)
Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel
LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn,
Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe

www.CFSfacts.org where we give you the facts and dispel the myths
Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf

See my designs exclusively at www.TyWolfeDesigns.com

Editor/Proofreader http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html

Why are the subjects "patterns in Braille" and tatting marked as "OT" ?


Aaron

"Karen C - California" wrote in message
...
Christine in Kent, Garden of England wrote:

Hi Karen I had the same trouble getting the "flip" in tatting


The problem was, none of the books ever said "flip the stitches". My
best reading of them was "knot-knot, stitch is done", and then couldn't
figure out why the ring wouldn't pull closed.

Then a dorm-mate's mom came to visit, and I'd heard she tatted, so I
commented on my problem. Of course, neither of us had a shuttle on us
at the moment, but all it took was Mrs. H asking "do you flip the
stitches to the other thread?" Ummm noooooooooo. I didn't know I was
supposed to.

She offered to show me when they got back from lunch, but by the time
they got back I already had it figured out just from her verbal
explanation to flex and pop.

When I teach, I use a red thread and a white thread, and first set the
student to making a chain. The mnemonic is "if you see red when you're
done with the stitch, you're going to 'see red' when you try to close
your ring." When they show me a couple inches of all-white chain (after
the inevitable candy cane stripes at the beginning), then I show them
how to loop around and make a ring, which closes properly the first time
because we can see immediately when they make a mistake and go over how
to correct it.



--
Karen C - California

Finished 7/4/06 - needlepoint calendar canvas for August
WIP: Getting all the UFOs done, July birthstone, Flowers of
Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!!, Farmers Market (TIAG#8)
Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel
LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn,
Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe

www.CFSfacts.org where we give you the facts and dispel the myths
Myths, with research cites:
http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf

See my designs exclusively at www.TyWolfeDesigns.com

Editor/Proofreader http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html

Good question - most of this discussion is decidedly on topic. Judy
wrote:
Why are the subjects "patterns in Braille" and tatting marked as "OT" ?