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Old August 26th 09, 05:56 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques?
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Old August 26th 09, 04:38 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Ganesh wrote:
Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques?


Could you be a bit more specific, like in "What kind of antique jewelry?"

Victorian, Edwardian, Art Deco, Art Nouveau, Etruscan, Egyptian,
European, Asian, Middle Eastern.

The variety is much too large to answer the question easily.

However, the short answer is, examine every piece of antique jewelry you
see or get to repair, very closely. By doing this, an experienced
goldsmith can usually figure out how it is made. Do this for many
years, and you will become quite good at making jewelry the way it was
made years ago.

A colleague of mine here in San Francisco, is one of the best "copiers"
of antique jewelry, and he is mostly self taught. He has literally
repaired many hundreds of pieces of antique jewelry over the last
several decades. By doing this he has learned how to copy pieces in the
style they were made.

Most recently, he had to replace a lost 18th century earring, which was
made of silver and gold, with rose cut diamonds. The result was
practically indistinguishable from the original. I was the only one of
6 colleagues who picked the copy from the original. (the color of the
gold ear wire was different from the original. The alloy of the copy
was more yellow than the original, which was only visible under certain
lighting conditions).



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Old August 31st 09, 06:11 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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On Aug 26, 8:38=A0pm, Abrasha wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques?


Could you be a bit more specific, like in "What kind of antique jewelry?"

Victorian, Edwardian, Art Deco, Art Nouveau, Etruscan, Egyptian,
European, Asian, Middle Eastern.


I studying all of them.
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Old June 21st 10, 11:52 PM
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Hi Abrasha !!!
Really you gave a nice stuff ...The info you given is really appreciable..
thanks for sharing ....
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Old July 20th 10, 12:54 PM
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Hi Abrasha !!!
Really you gave a nice stuff ...The info you given is really appreciable..
thanks for sharing ....
Victorian period from 1836 to 1901 in Great Britain since the reign of Queen Victoria. Her husband and children inspired jewelry that reflected a romantic and passionate approach to the Queen Victoria's love. Flowers, hearts, bows and birds beautiful pieces of jewelry inspired the Victorian era craftsmanship shown. Serpent motifs were also popular. Bollywood is often used during the Victorian period and help to keep jewelry affordable for the mass market. Garnets, amethysts, coral, turquoise and seed pearls were in style. Opals were increasingly popular as Queen Victoria adored them. Diamonds were discovered in South Africa in 1867 and became popular during this period. Human hair was during the Victorian era jewelry contains. The jewelry was given as a token of love and worn as mourning jewelry.
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Old August 26th 09, 04:38 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Ganesh wrote:
Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques?


The word 'antique' means 'over 100 years old'.

Do you mean 'reproduction jewellery'?

If so you need to define a period and style.


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Old April 19th 11, 03:31 AM
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Most recently, he had to replace a lost 18th century earring, which was
made of silver and gold, with rose cut diamonds. The result was
practically indistinguishable from the original. I was the only one of
6 colleagues who picked the copy from the original.The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
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Old August 27th 09, 06:05 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Peter W. Rowe[_2_]
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:56:59 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ganesh
wrote:

Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques?


Most of the modern techniques of jewelry making, at least the traditional
"benchwork" methods, have roots in antiquity. Modern times have added better
steel for tools, electric motors and lights, torches, etc. But the basics
haven't changed all that much. If you understand jewelry making well by modern
methods, then careful examination of ancient works will usually give you a
fairly good idea of how things were made. But of course, some of the specific
methods will be different. For example, if you are used to setting stones with
a flex shaft motor and burs to cut the seats, and have never seen a manual bow
drill used, or seen a seat cut with and engraving tool, then that method may
not be apparent to you. Likewise, if you're used to making sheet and wire with
rolling mills and drawplates, then ancient methods using hammers to forge sheet,
or making wire by cutting a strip of sheet metal and then rolling, forming, and
stretching it, may also not be as apparent. If you're used to soldering with a
torch, then soldering using a furnace might seem strange. But in reality, the
things the metal is being asked to do is about the same in any of these cases,
only the specific tools change. And the effort and skills involved.

Some good references for background and history and the like might include Jack
Ogden's 1983 book, "jewelry of the ancient world", which gives lots of good
information that can help you identify old authentic pieces from modern
reproductions, as well as info on ancient metalurgy and methods. For more
modern information, such as the 1900s or so, find almost any of the old books on
goldsmithing by George Gee. These turn of the century (1900 or so) books
detailed the methods used in england at the time, which are pretty typical of
methods from the beginning of the industrial revolution up till then. The more
modern book, Herbert Maryon's "Metalwork and Enamelling" is still in print as a
Dover reprint. Maryon worked as a restorer and smith for the British Museum,
and his detailed text is a goldmine of both old and new methods. There are, of
course, many other fine books on goldsmithing or metalworking, all of which have
something to add. But these should give you a start. Ogden's book may be hard
to find. If you find a copy for sale, snap it up. It's worth the money.
Maryon's books is available, inexpensive, and good enough to recommend to any
interested jeweler, not just those looking to past methods. George Gee's books,
of course, are long out of print, but occasionally you'll find them in
libraries, or antique book stores, especially in England and Europe.

Hope that helps.

Peter Rowe
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Old August 31st 09, 06:18 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Ganesh
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On Aug 27, 10:05 am, Peter W. Rowe
wrote:

Most of the modern techniques of jewelry making, at least the traditional
"benchwork" methods, have roots in antiquity. Modern times have added better
steel for tools, electric motors and lights, torches, etc. But the basics
haven't changed all that much. If you understand jewelry making well by modern
methods, then careful examination of ancient works will usually give you a
fairly good idea of how things were made. But of course, some of the specific
methods will be different. For example, if you are used to setting stones with
a flex shaft motor and burs to cut the seats, and have never seen a manual bow
drill used, or seen a seat cut with and engraving tool, then that method may
not be apparent to you. Likewise, if you're used to making sheet and wire with
rolling mills and drawplates, then ancient methods using hammers to forge sheet,
or making wire by cutting a strip of sheet metal and then rolling, forming, and
stretching it, may also not be as apparent. If you're used to soldering with a
torch, then soldering using a furnace might seem strange. But in reality, the
things the metal is being asked to do is about the same in any of these cases,
only the specific tools change. And the effort and skills involved.

Some good references for background and history and the like might include Jack
Ogden's 1983 book, "jewelry of the ancient world", which gives lots of good
information that can help you identify old authentic pieces from modern
reproductions, as well as info on ancient metalurgy and methods. For more
modern information, such as the 1900s or so, find almost any of the old books


Thanks for the inputs provided. I wanted to study in-depth the old
methods.
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Old August 31st 09, 06:30 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Ganesh
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On Aug 27, 10:05am, Peter W. Rowe
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:56:59 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ganesh

wrote:
Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques?


Most of the modern techniques of jewelry making, at least the traditional
"benchwork" methods, have roots in antiquity. Modern times have added better
steel for tools, electric motors and lights, torches, etc. But the basics
haven't changed all that much. If you understand jewelry making well by modern
methods, then careful examination of ancient works will usually give you a
fairly good idea of how things were made. But of course, some of the specific
methods will be different. For example, if you are used to setting stones with
a flex shaft motor and burs to cut the seats, and have never seen a manual bow
drill used, or seen a seat cut with and engraving tool, then that method may
not be apparent to you. Likewise, if you're used to making sheet and wire with
rolling mills and drawplates, then ancient methods using hammers to forge sheet,
or making wire by cutting a strip of sheet metal and then rolling, forming, and
stretching it, may also not be as apparent. If you're used to soldering with a
torch, then soldering using a furnace might seem strange. But in reality, the
things the metal is being asked to do is about the same in any of these cases,
only the specific tools change. And the effort and skills involved.

Some good references for background and history and the like might include Jack
Ogden's 1983 book, "jewelry of the ancient world", which gives lots of good
information that can help you identify old authentic pieces from modern
reproductions, as well as info on ancient metalurgy and methods. For more
modern information, such as the 1900s or so, find almost any of the old books on
goldsmithing by George Gee. These turn of the century (1900 or so) books
detailed the methods used in england at the time, which are pretty typical of
methods from the beginning of the industrial revolution up till then. The more
modern book, Herbert Maryon's "Metalwork and Enamelling" is still in print as a
Dover reprint. Maryon worked as a restorer and smith for the British Museum,
and his detailed text is a goldmine of both old and new methods. There are, of
course, many other fine books on goldsmithing or metalworking, all of which have
something to add. But these should give you a start. Ogden's book may be hard
to find. If you find a copy for sale, snap it up. It's worth the money.
Maryon's books is available, inexpensive, and good enough to recommend to any
interested jeweler, not just those looking to past methods. George Gee's books,
of course, are long out of print, but occasionally you'll find them in
libraries, or antique book stores, especially in England and Europe.

Hope that helps.

Peter Rowe


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