How many retailers do we have?

Lurking or posting regularly?

Many? Curious.

I'm a glass rod retailer...

Javahut wrote:
Lurking or posting regularly?

Many? Curious.



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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
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I'm a glass rod retailer...

Javahut wrote:
Lurking or posting regularly?

Many? Curious.



--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

That's nice, let me re-phrase, and ask a hypothetical question.

You buy supplies and tools, including grinders, from a major supplier.
Should you care how he/she runs their company, as long as you get what you
order?

Let's go a step further, let's say this supplier has a very efficient, hard
working employee, that knows all the major customers and is responsible for
all his customers happiness, and has done an incredible job for say 24
years.

Policy at this company is that anyone that works for 25 years gets free
health care after retirement.

this supplier decides, now that someone is actually going to use that policy
and retire upon completion of the 25th year, fires this long standing
employee with 24 years 6 months time.

As a consumer or reseller, should we give a damn? Does it matter to us?
Should it?

If this supplier will pull this nonsense on someone they have known that
long, valued their work and results that much, and then stab them, why would
this person not do the same thing to their customers when its time for a
warranty reimbursement?

I heard this occurred, I do not know personally the parties involved,(very
well), but the conversation about the questions I bring up were discussed
between me and a retailer that let me in on the story. We hadn't come to a
consensus, thought it would be a thought provoking topic related to glass,
in a way.

It definitely relates to glass people.

Thoughts about the subject, and please, nothing about , "they should sue"
know that, but what about remaining a customer and can you trust the
supplier to follow through on any other promise?

fired after 24 1/2 years

you go and get some-one to brake one his legs ( approx $1500.00 for pro) at
the Knees and then ask him to discuss the medical again. use the weighted
bat, this is a slugger that has had a large hole drilled into the end and
filled with lead, then wrap the outside with plimazone rubber. this give
you a lot more force on the swing. hit knee from the sides.

works better then Johnny Cochran, and results are immediate. If you get a
real tough guy, do the other leg just after he gets home from the hospital.




"Javahut" wrote in message
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"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
I'm a glass rod retailer...

Javahut wrote:
Lurking or posting regularly?

Many? Curious.



--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

That's nice, let me re-phrase, and ask a hypothetical question.

You buy supplies and tools, including grinders, from a major supplier.
Should you care how he/she runs their company, as long as you get what you
order?

Let's go a step further, let's say this supplier has a very efficient,
hard
working employee, that knows all the major customers and is responsible
for
all his customers happiness, and has done an incredible job for say 24
years.

Policy at this company is that anyone that works for 25 years gets free
health care after retirement.

this supplier decides, now that someone is actually going to use that
policy
and retire upon completion of the 25th year, fires this long standing
employee with 24 years 6 months time.

As a consumer or reseller, should we give a damn? Does it matter to us?
Should it?

If this supplier will pull this nonsense on someone they have known that
long, valued their work and results that much, and then stab them, why
would
this person not do the same thing to their customers when its time for a
warranty reimbursement?

I heard this occurred, I do not know personally the parties involved,(very
well), but the conversation about the questions I bring up were discussed
between me and a retailer that let me in on the story. We hadn't come to
a
consensus, thought it would be a thought provoking topic related to glass,
in a way.

It definitely relates to glass people.

Thoughts about the subject, and please, nothing about , "they should sue"
know that, but what about remaining a customer and can you trust the
supplier to follow through on any other promise?

"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
...
fired after 24 1/2 years

you go and get some-one to brake one his legs ( approx $1500.00 for pro)
at
the Knees and then ask him to discuss the medical again. use the weighted
bat, this is a slugger that has had a large hole drilled into the end and
filled with lead, then wrap the outside with plimazone rubber. this give
you a lot more force on the swing. hit knee from the sides.

works better then Johnny Cochran, and results are immediate. If you get a
real tough guy, do the other leg just after he gets home from the
hospital.

A tightly rolled-up Newspaper applied firmlyand frequently to the kidney
areas is effective, also.

I generally post responses BELOW the message, so look there.


"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
...
fired after 24 1/2 years

you go and get some-one to brake one his legs ( approx $1500.00 for pro)
at
the Knees and then ask him to discuss the medical again. use the weighted
bat, this is a slugger that has had a large hole drilled into the end and
filled with lead, then wrap the outside with plimazone rubber. this give
you a lot more force on the swing. hit knee from the sides.

works better then Johnny Cochran, and results are immediate. If you get a
real tough guy, do the other leg just after he gets home from the
hospital.


C'mon Boner, while that may have some impact on him, where a guy like that
values things is in his pocket, while he can heal from the baseball bat,
altho it may take a while, we, as customers, that is where my question was
aimed.

There once was a big uproar about clothing made in foreign sweatshops by
certain "brands", we , collectively, "we" don't much care for the way KFC
clobbers their chickens, all this is media stuff in the news and in the
papers on a national level, what about our responsibilities, and other
opinions are sought here, when such a thing as previously mentioned,
happens in our own localized business.

Goes to the general question, when such a thing occurs within a company that
we do business with, do we have any sort of repsonsibility to speak up,
continue on, or ignore it. It is HIS company to do as he pleases, but by
the same token, is his warranty on products any good? He could change his
mind on that too.

Anyone

Java wrote: (snip)
I heard this occurred, I do not know personally the parties
involved,(very
well), but the conversation about the questions I bring up were
discussed
between me and a retailer that let me in on the story. We hadn't
come to a
consensus, thought it would be a thought provoking topic related to
glass,
in a way.

Without knowing first hand exactly what is going on, you can't really
make any assumptions as what should be done. If in fact the employee
was terminated just so as to not have to pay out any benefits then
he/she needs to talk to an attorney. If on the other hand, he/she has
been found to have been stealing for the past 24 years...then they're
out the door.

Andy

Javahut wrote:


C'mon Boner, while that may have some impact on him, where a guy like that
values things is in his pocket, while he can heal from the baseball bat,
altho it may take a while, we, as customers, that is where my question was
aimed.

There once was a big uproar about clothing made in foreign sweatshops by
certain "brands", we , collectively, "we" don't much care for the way KFC
clobbers their chickens, all this is media stuff in the news and in the
papers on a national level, what about our responsibilities, and other
opinions are sought here, when such a thing as previously mentioned,
happens in our own localized business.

Goes to the general question, when such a thing occurs within a company that
we do business with, do we have any sort of repsonsibility to speak up,
continue on, or ignore it. It is HIS company to do as he pleases, but by
the same token, is his warranty on products any good? He could change his
mind on that too.

Anyone


I wouldn't buy anything from him and would tell him why. I would also
tell everybody I know.

Jack

in a way.

Without knowing first hand exactly what is going on, you can't really
make any assumptions as what should be done. If in fact the employee
was terminated just so as to not have to pay out any benefits then
he/she needs to talk to an attorney. If on the other hand, he/she has
been found to have been stealing for the past 24 years...then they're
out the door.

Andy


Andy makes a good point. People get screwed all the time. More often
they do the screwing to themselves. Business is business, but pulling the
rug out from someone like that without cause is pretty tough to do in todays
lawyer riddled society. It's not "On the Waterfront" anymore. I would want
all the details from both sides before I pulled my dollars away from the
company. Bring out all the details you know Java, and let's get to the
bottom of this. We have leaders of industry reading this NG that can make a
difference.


--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

"Glassman" wrote in message
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in a way.

Without knowing first hand exactly what is going on, you can't really
make any assumptions as what should be done. If in fact the employee
was terminated just so as to not have to pay out any benefits then
he/she needs to talk to an attorney. If on the other hand, he/she has
been found to have been stealing for the past 24 years...then they're
out the door.

Andy


Andy makes a good point. People get screwed all the time. More often
they do the screwing to themselves. Business is business, but pulling the
rug out from someone like that without cause is pretty tough to do in
todays
lawyer riddled society. It's not "On the Waterfront" anymore. I would
want
all the details from both sides before I pulled my dollars away from the
company. Bring out all the details you know Java, and let's get to the
bottom of this. We have leaders of industry reading this NG that can make
a
difference.


The executive in question certainly knew the time line of this employee's
history. Dismissal of someone at this point in their employment only
months prior to a retirement is a CERTAIN lawsuit. I doubt that any
business man would be so flagrant and put his company at much greater
financial risk than he'd face by just honoring the retirement policy.
Personally, I think there's more to this than what any of us know.

Like, for example the employee going on "cruise control" and not doing the
assigned work because he/she is a "short-timer". Slackers get fired whether
they have 2 weeks or 24 years.