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I, for one, do care very much about how my suppliers conduct business. I
learned to do business from a very ethical and very successful businessman, and I both agree with and follow his principles of refusing to do business with companies that screw people over... especially their own employees. if you wouldn't mind emailing me the name of this company, I would like to know. There are alternatives to every supplier. Javahut wrote: "Kalera Stratton" wrote in message ... I'm a glass rod retailer... Javahut wrote: Lurking or posting regularly? Many? Curious. -- -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com That's nice, let me re-phrase, and ask a hypothetical question. You buy supplies and tools, including grinders, from a major supplier. Should you care how he/she runs their company, as long as you get what you order? Let's go a step further, let's say this supplier has a very efficient, hard working employee, that knows all the major customers and is responsible for all his customers happiness, and has done an incredible job for say 24 years. Policy at this company is that anyone that works for 25 years gets free health care after retirement. this supplier decides, now that someone is actually going to use that policy and retire upon completion of the 25th year, fires this long standing employee with 24 years 6 months time. As a consumer or reseller, should we give a damn? Does it matter to us? Should it? If this supplier will pull this nonsense on someone they have known that long, valued their work and results that much, and then stab them, why would this person not do the same thing to their customers when its time for a warranty reimbursement? I heard this occurred, I do not know personally the parties involved,(very well), but the conversation about the questions I bring up were discussed between me and a retailer that let me in on the story. We hadn't come to a consensus, thought it would be a thought provoking topic related to glass, in a way. It definitely relates to glass people. Thoughts about the subject, and please, nothing about , "they should sue" know that, but what about remaining a customer and can you trust the supplier to follow through on any other promise? -- -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com |
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Javahut wrote: I generally post responses BELOW the message, so look there. C'mon Boner, while that may have some impact on him, where a guy like that values things is in his pocket, while he can heal from the baseball bat, altho it may take a while, we, as customers, that is where my question was aimed. There once was a big uproar about clothing made in foreign sweatshops by certain "brands", we , collectively, "we" don't much care for the way KFC clobbers their chickens, all this is media stuff in the news and in the papers on a national level, what about our responsibilities, and other opinions are sought here, when such a thing as previously mentioned, happens in our own localized business. Goes to the general question, when such a thing occurs within a company that we do business with, do we have any sort of repsonsibility to speak up, continue on, or ignore it. It is HIS company to do as he pleases, but by the same token, is his warranty on products any good? He could change his mind on that too. Anyone Eh, sorry about the top-posting... I have my preferences set for another group where top-posting is preferred, and I forgot to set it back. Still looking for a newsreader that will let me side-post, and **** *everyone* off. -- -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com |
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"Moonraker" wrote in message . .. "Glassman" wrote in message ... in a way. Without knowing first hand exactly what is going on, you can't really make any assumptions as what should be done. If in fact the employee was terminated just so as to not have to pay out any benefits then he/she needs to talk to an attorney. If on the other hand, he/she has been found to have been stealing for the past 24 years...then they're out the door. Andy Andy makes a good point. People get screwed all the time. More often they do the screwing to themselves. Business is business, but pulling the rug out from someone like that without cause is pretty tough to do in todays lawyer riddled society. It's not "On the Waterfront" anymore. I would want all the details from both sides before I pulled my dollars away from the company. Bring out all the details you know Java, and let's get to the bottom of this. We have leaders of industry reading this NG that can make a difference. The executive in question certainly knew the time line of this employee's history. Dismissal of someone at this point in their employment only months prior to a retirement is a CERTAIN lawsuit. I doubt that any business man would be so flagrant and put his company at much greater financial risk than he'd face by just honoring the retirement policy. Personally, I think there's more to this than what any of us know. Like, for example the employee going on "cruise control" and not doing the assigned work because he/she is a "short-timer". Slackers get fired whether they have 2 weeks or 24 years. The fact that you agreed with me almost word for word is astounding enough! I think that by the time Java heard this, the sour grapes must have set in good and solid. My guess is that he got a one-sided story all the way. -- JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories |
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"Glassman" wrote in message ... The fact that you agreed with me almost word for word is astounding enough! Don't let it go to your head. That's just one time. May never happen again. |
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OK folks, we are getting away from the point of the comment and the question
asked. Don't assume that I am wrong about what I am asking, the word "hypothetical" was included in the original post, the question was not about whether I am right or wrong or even have all the facts of that particualar situation. The question was about "us", as customers, WHEN we find the situation I described. and to all those "doubting Thomases", I have been careful not to divulge any actual information, names companies etc until I am sure I know all the facts as presented to me, and the harmed person contacts me to say, "Hey, go after this guy for me, embarass hell out of him," in which case I will tell everything I know because I think it is rotten. Golden rule sort of thing. SO, back to the original question, assume what I have said did , indeed, happen. (I would be truely shocked and astounded to find that there was ANY misconduct by the wronged person, but for our discussion, it is NOT included in the scenario.) |
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"Javahut" wrote in message ... OK folks, we are getting away from the point of the comment and the question asked. Don't assume that I am wrong about what I am asking, the word "hypothetical" was included in the original post, the question was not about whether I am right or wrong or even have all the facts of that particualar situation. The question was about "us", as customers, WHEN we find the situation I described. and to all those "doubting Thomases", I have been careful not to divulge any actual information, names companies etc until I am sure I know all the facts as presented to me, and the harmed person contacts me to say, "Hey, go after this guy for me, embarass hell out of him," in which case I will tell everything I know because I think it is rotten. Golden rule sort of thing. SO, back to the original question, assume what I have said did , indeed, happen. (I would be truely shocked and astounded to find that there was ANY misconduct by the wronged person, but for our discussion, it is NOT included in the scenario.) Here's your answer Java. I would always continue to buy from the company that does right by me. Business is business. I can't afford to take up for every cause that goes on behind closed doors everywhere, and I'm sure there are plenty more worse things happening at the local town stores we buy from as well. My storefront is treated as a separate entity, like my suppliers. Nothing personal. -- JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories |
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"Javahut" ha scritto nel messaggio ... Lurking or posting regularly? Many? Curious. I have a glass gallery and I often lurk this newsgroup. Alex _________________ www.artofvenice.com Murano glass gallery. Contemporary and classic venetian glass. |
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given the exact scenerio you describe, I wouldn't do business with the firm
as I would be convinced that they are just a short law suit away from shutting their doors....if I DID do business with them, I would do everything COD and I wouldn't buy anything which might require the continued existence of the company. Bryan "but then I'm paranoid" Paschke |
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