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Can you identify these knots.
Can anyone identify these knots please?
I think I recognise the reef and the fisherman's knot, but the rest escape me. http://cjoint.com/data/fsqsTohnsD.htm Thanks. |
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Rodney wrote:
Can anyone identify these knots please? I think I recognise the reef and the fisherman's knot, but the rest escape me. http://cjoint.com/data/fsqsTohnsD.htm Thanks. Rodney, Thank you for posting the picture of those stamps! It is not often we see knots as a design element on stamps. Great stuff! 4 DH. is a "Sheepshank with an Overhand Knot", also called a "Sword Knot". 2 DH. is an "Artillery Loop" also called a "Man-Harness Knot". 5 DH. is a "Sheepshank Knot" 6 DH. is, as you said, the "Fisherman's Knot". 2 DH. is, as you said, the "Reef Knot". I double-checked these names in "Ashley's Book of Knots". Names of knots vary and these stamps obviously celebrate Scouting. If one needs to be precise, I am not sure if the name "Artillery Loop" or the name "Man-Harness Knot" is preferred by Scouting. I also wonder if the name "Sword Knot" is used in Scouting or whether they use another name. Thanks again for the picture. All the best - Brian. |
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G'day Brian and Ahab,
thanks for the replies. I am a philatelist, although I do not specialise in thematics such as knots, I was just curious. There are 30 stamps in that set from Sharjah, albeit all stamps do not offer a different knot. Perhaps you should begin a "knots" thematic on stamps can we snare another collector? Best regards Rodney | Rodney, | | Thank you for posting the picture of those stamps! It is not often we | see knots as a design element on stamps. Great stuff! | | 4 DH. is a "Sheepshank with an Overhand Knot", also called a "Sword | Knot". | | 2 DH. is an "Artillery Loop" also called a "Man-Harness Knot". | | 5 DH. is a "Sheepshank Knot" | | 6 DH. is, as you said, the "Fisherman's Knot". | | 2 DH. is, as you said, the "Reef Knot". | | I double-checked these names in "Ashley's Book of Knots". Names of | knots vary and these stamps obviously celebrate Scouting. If one needs | to be precise, I am not sure if the name "Artillery Loop" or the name | "Man-Harness Knot" is preferred by Scouting. I also wonder if the name | "Sword Knot" is used in Scouting or whether they use another name. | | Thanks again for the picture. | | All the best - Brian. | |
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"Rodney" wrote in message ...
| I am not sure if the name "Artillery Loop" or the name | "Man-Harness Knot" is preferred by Scouting. I also wonder if the name | "Sword Knot" is used in Scouting or whether they use another name. | hi Rodney, Brian, it seems that the name "man-harness knot" is preferred? http://www.scoutingresources.org.uk/...tml#manharness about the "sword knot": this knot is also known as "Sheep Shank Man o'War" or a "Man o'war sheepshank" : http://www.geospectra.net/kite/knots/knots.htm http://www.boatsafe.com/marlinespike/sheepshank.htm and I presume that the "sword knot" is not a knot that is common in Schouting knot linked here, Ben |
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Hi Ben and everyone,
Yes, I think that the "Man O' War Sheepshank" is the most common name. Thank you. Although, I do like the name "Sword Knot". It is a good name for the "patter" if one had an opportunity to show off. :-) Brian. |
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Hi Rodney,
The only other postage stamps with knots that I have seen were shown in "Knotting Matters", June 2003. They were from Sweden and one showed the Reef Knot, one showed the Sheet Bend and the last showed the Bowline. I have had no success finding stamps or pictures of postage stamps with knots. If you (or others) know of other examples, please, pretty please, let us know! TIA. "Knotting Matters" is the quarterly for the International Guild of Knots Tyers to which I and several people who post here belong. G'day eh? (Canuk trying to speak Aussie :-) ) Cheers - Brian. |
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Stay tuned, we shall get you as many as we can find. here is one from Norway http://cjoint.com/data/fyaTwY8xst.htm do you want scans of the nearly full set of scouting from Sharjah? some show identical knots. | Hi Rodney, | | The only other postage stamps with knots that I have seen were shown in | "Knotting Matters", June 2003. They were from Sweden and one showed the | Reef Knot, one showed the Sheet Bend and the last showed the Bowline. I | have had no success finding stamps or pictures of postage stamps with | knots. If you (or others) know of other examples, please, pretty | please, let us know! TIA. | | "Knotting Matters" is the quarterly for the International Guild of | Knots Tyers to which I and several people who post here belong. | | G'day eh? (Canuk trying to speak Aussie :-) ) | | Cheers - Brian. | |
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Rodney wrote: Stay tuned, we shall get you as many as we can find. here is one from Norway http://cjoint.com/data/fyaTwY8xst.htm do you want scans of the nearly full set of scouting from Sharjah? some show identical knots. Rodney, Thank you. The "Reef Knot" design from Norway is interesting. I think the design has a medieval flavor. On the other hand, since there is no indication of which ends of the ropes are working ends, perhaps "Interlocked Bights" is a better description than "Reef Knot". Maybe the design represents the knot of a particular type of netting. I would love to see the knots and designs of scouting from Sharjah! Thank you. Cheers - Brian. |
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"Brian G." writes:
The only other postage stamps with knots that I have seen were shown in "Knotting Matters", June 2003. They were from Sweden and one showed the Here's some other ones from China/Taiwan: http://www.cpi.com.cn/cpi-e/yubao/2003-z1.asp https://stamp.post.gov.tw/cpemall3w/..._eng/index.htm There's also one from Hong Kong (shopping in the Jade market) that I got from Canada Post (Pan Chang knot with a Jade Pi). I was going to find the link for your viewing pleasure, but their site got all snooty with my browser and I don't want to move over to the PC at the moment... 8P 8) I've got a goodly supply of the 1st one and am working on getting some of the second set if people want them and need help locating such. -- Carol Wang http://www.daoofsilk.com/ The Dao of Silk http://www.chineseknotting.org/ The Chinese Knotting Home Page http://www.skate.org/ Information for the Figure Skating Fan |
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Thank you, Carol, for posting the URL of Chinese knotting stamp, but I found
it at a different URL, http://www.cpi.com.cn/cpi-e/newissue/2003-z1.asp. Yvonne Chang "Carol Wang" wrote in message ... "Brian G." writes: The only other postage stamps with knots that I have seen were shown in "Knotting Matters", June 2003. They were from Sweden and one showed the Here's some other ones from China/Taiwan: http://www.cpi.com.cn/cpi-e/yubao/2003-z1.asp https://stamp.post.gov.tw/cpemall3w/..._eng/index.htm There's also one from Hong Kong (shopping in the Jade market) that I got from Canada Post (Pan Chang knot with a Jade Pi). I was going to find the link for your viewing pleasure, but their site got all snooty with my browser and I don't want to move over to the PC at the moment... 8P 8) I've got a goodly supply of the 1st one and am working on getting some of the second set if people want them and need help locating such. -- Carol Wang http://www.daoofsilk.com/ The Dao of Silk http://www.chineseknotting.org/ The Chinese Knotting Home Page http://www.skate.org/ Information for the Figure Skating Fan |
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