Knitted [metal] armor

We went to an opening of Archeological finds in Shikmona [ -15th
centurt BCE] , which is the oldest part from which Haifa grew.
Findings are mainly statuettes, ceramics, glass each period and it `s
findings. But in the other part of the museum they now have an
Exhibition about Pirates boats ,,,, wonderful knots are shown ,
wonderful crimshaw art, and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......
mirjam

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We went to an opening of Archeological finds in Shikmona

and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......

I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which
WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. Looks like it was knitted in black
then highlighted with silver somehow? I haven't been able to find any
information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the movie!

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"Chris Underwood" wrote in message
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We went to an opening of Archeological finds in Shikmona

and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......

I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which
WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. Looks like it was knitted in black
then highlighted with silver somehow? I haven't been able to find any
information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the
movie!

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It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver.

Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together.

Mary

On May 19, 1:05*pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Chris Underwood" wrote in message

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We went to an opening of Archeological finds in *Shikmona

and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......

I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which
WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. *Looks like it was knitted in black
then highlighted with silver somehow? *I haven't been able to find any
information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the
movie!

--

It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver.

Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together.

Mary

Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of
knitting`
Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome
are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding.
mirjam

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On May 19, 1:05*pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Chris Underwood" wrote
wrote

We went to an opening of Archeological finds in *Shikmona
and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......

I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which
WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. *Looks like it was knitted in black
then highlighted with silver somehow? *I haven't been able to find any
information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the
movie!

It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver.

Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together.

Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of
knitting`
Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome
are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding.

Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors?

I know there is one simple headdress that is nalbinding in gold wire
but I hadn't heard of armor done that way.

=Tamar

On May 20, 7:47*am, (Richard Eney) wrote:
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On May 19, 1:05*pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Chris Underwood" wrote
wrote
We went to an opening of Archeological finds in *Shikmona
and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......

I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which
WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. *Looks like it was knitted in black
then highlighted with silver somehow? *I haven't been able to find any
information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the
movie!

It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver.

Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together.

Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of
knitting`
Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome
are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding.

Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors?

I know there is one simple headdress that is nalbinding in gold wire
but I hadn't heard of armor done that way.

=Tamar- Hide quoted text -

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Just now i don`t know if i can find a picture, but i know that When we
dug in some Crusader places, we found a rusted falling apart one and
was made with one contineous metal thread, it looked like they looped
it over some kind of stick, and than using a second one made the next
Row , twisting the over row into the under row . Like intelocking
twisting 2 metal springs
on each other ,,,
mirjam

"YarnWright" wrote in message
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How can (genuine) mail armour be made by nåhlbindning?

Even that made for modern use, e.g. metal gloves to protect butchers' hands,
are made by connected rings. Nåhlbindning depends on flexible 'yarn' of some
kind.

In fact (before anyone corrects me) my use of the word 'rings' is wrong
because the elements are penannular - not enclosed. That's how the 'rings'
can be threaded through each other. They only beconme complete circles when
riveted together.

Mary

On May 20, 10:43*am, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"YarnWright" wrote in message

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How can (genuine) mail armour be made by nåhlbindning?

Even that made for modern use, e.g. metal gloves to protect butchers' hands,
are made by connected rings. Nåhlbindning depends on flexible 'yarn' of some
kind.

In fact (before anyone corrects me) my use of the word 'rings' is wrong
because the elements are penannular - not enclosed. That's how the 'rings'
can be threaded through each other. They only beconme complete circles when
riveted together.

Mary

Mary , i really saw [at least three that i remember], local
blacksmiths , who turned one spring over/into another and in this way
made a kind of armour, strong, metal and flexible, if i hadn`t seen it
with my own eyes i wouldn`t have thought it possible. People all over
history, all over the globe were extremely efficient and talented in
making all kinds of things, that they NEEDED. We get so many things
ready made , that we forget to Praise the fantastic abbilities of
people to MAKE objectes , [ some very complicated] themselves.
As i wrote to you we found enough rusted broken parts , to understand
how they were made,,,
mirjam

Thank you Noreen for your kind words.
and to Mary, i have a ps ,,,,
In Belgium , Brusselles in the "AFRICA " Museum, there are Several
Straw and [dried] Grass and other
Vegetable armors, that were collected through the ex colonies , from
various tribes. I observed some
of those quite closely. All are made with Contineous Fibers. None are
made of any ringlets nore short parts
squeezed into ringlets. People are very inventive and learn quick ,
for example , MarcoPolo went to China
and learned there, part of Their techniques, he brought those home,
and applied them to other materials,
which his people had !!!!!!
If you read how Technology and crafts spread, you will be amazed. I
think you live in UK, look around you
and see how many things in UK , were imported, and how many things
your Sailors, merchants and
misionaries taught to other people.
mirjam

On May 20, 10:43*am, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"YarnWright" wrote in message

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How can (genuine) mail armour be made by nåhlbindning?

Even that made for modern use, e.g. metal gloves to protect butchers' hands,
are made by connected rings. Nåhlbindning depends on flexible 'yarn' of some
kind.

In fact (before anyone corrects me) my use of the word 'rings' is wrong
because the elements are penannular - not enclosed. That's how the 'rings'
can be threaded through each other. They only beconme complete circles when
riveted together.

Mary
Mary , you made an effort to tell me that your name was almost like
mine ,,,,,,thus why did you overlook that I specificly wrote that it
was `some sort of,,,,` meaning it was not exactly but it looks quite
like it !!!!
mirjam