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what is this watch
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Despite months of searching, even at the Cyma website, I have not been able to find information about my watch. It's a CYMA Rubisaphir, gold, onyx and diamond mens dress/formal digital chronometer. I've put it up for auction on ebay for a fraction of it's value in the hope I may find information. No such luck. Here's a link: www.ebay.com auction number 170434833785 Any information will be readily absorbed in this forum, thank you. :-} Peter |
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Peter Lowrie wrote:
Here's a long-shot Despite months of searching, even at the Cyma website, I have not been able to find information about my watch. It's a CYMA Rubisaphir, gold, onyx and diamond mens dress/formal digital chronometer. I've put it up for auction on ebay for a fraction of it's value in the hope I may find information. No such luck. Here's a link: www.ebay.com auction number 170434833785 Any information will be readily absorbed in this forum, thank you. :-} Peter I quote from the auction: "Only a couple of hundred were made. Information on it is hard to come by." If "information is hard to come by", how do you know that "only a couple of hundred were made"? What is the source of that information? I would think that a watch on auction with a starting bid of $8,999.00 (cute figure), and a reserve to boot, would have some information available. And than you make this claim: "an old 286 computer with SCSI hard disks". SCSI was never used on 286 computers. This was the domain of Apple. The 286 microprocessor was introduced by Intel in 1982, followed by the 386 in 1985. SCSI was not commonly used until after its standardization in 1986, and has been commonly used in the Amiga, Apple Macintosh and Sun Microsystems computer lines and PC server systems. Never in a 286 machine. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:03:50 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Peter Lowrie
wrote: Here's a long-shot Despite months of searching, even at the Cyma website, I have not been able to find information about my watch. It's a CYMA Rubisaphir, gold, onyx and diamond mens dress/formal digital chronometer. I've put it up for auction on ebay for a fraction of it's value in the hope I may find information. No such luck. First off, I'm NOT an expert in watches. Just a long time goldsmith who's seen a few over the years. But I note a couple of things from your ebay listing and the watch in general that makes me skeptical of your value estimate. One is that it's a quartz watch. Some quartz watches can indeed command high prices, but not generally on the basis of valuable movements. Quartz movements at most seem to be worth a couple hundred dollars, and most are cheaper than that. This is in contrast to those mechanical watches with complex movements, sometimes hand made, that can be worth thousands or tens of thousands based on the rarity of the movements alone. To boot, your watch's movement is a simple date and time. Not more complex with, for example, stop watch, or other precision functions. Not a premium movement from the looks of it, at least not that's apparent to me. So if your watch is worth a whole lot, it will be based on the case, it's design, materials, etc. This still might be valuable, but then I note that in your auction description, you say it's "rolled gold". That is the same, almost, as gold filled, meaning gold parts are a fairly thin layer over base metal, rather than sold karat gold. And though it's got diamonds in the dial, it's only a few, and possibly small ones. I've seen plenty of watches with these apparent features that are worth not more than a couple hundred or less, based on the materials and workmanship. So then. About the only things remaining that might make this worth thousands would be the Cyma name, and your stated rarity of this design. In a quick google search of the Cyma name, I find many for sale in the couple hundred dollar range, in addition to those for same for thousands. Most of the latter have solid gold cases, or a lot more diamonds. Not those with simple functions, a steel case with a bit of rolled gold ornamentation and a couple small diamonds that then have high prices. Still, this could be valuable, if, as you say, it's design and rarity make it worth a lot on those factors alone. But I can't say that the design seems especially unusual to me. So rarity of the design then? Where did you get the supposed value of many thousands of dollars? From the gent who so cavalierly gave it to you? I'm kind of guessing you got scammed, just a bit. He paid your fee, so he didn't rip you off. But I'm thinking he gave you his fairly ordinary watch and overstated it's collectable value. Maybe he believed it, maybe not. But common sense suggests to me that if this were highly collectable and valuable, you'd be able to find some documentation to that effect somewhere. Personally, if you offered me the watch for fifty bucks, I'd pass it up. Perhaps I'd be stupid to do so, but that's what it looks like to me. Keep in mind that as I said, I'm NOT an expert in watches. But I do know a bit about jewelry and what normally makes it valuable or not... By the way, this newsgroup is mostly devoted to the craft of jewelry making. (silversmithing, goldsmithing, etc.) You might find more folks who know more about watches if you try a newsgroup aimed at horology. Also, just an aside, you say you placed that ad on ebay in an attempt to get information about the watch. If that's the case, then why does your ebay ad not actually ask for information? All it seems to be to me, is an attempt to sell the watch. No where do you ask if anyone knows more about it. I don't suppose, just maybe, that your post here on r.c.j. was an attempt to advertise your ebay auction? Good luck with that. Such ads are not allowed, and I seriously doubt that any of the several dozen regular readers of this newsgroup would be interested. I allowed your post just on the chance that you are sincere in your desire for more info on the watch. but please do be aware that this is a "no advertising" group. hope this helps Peter Rowe moderator, rec.crafts.jewelry |
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