Glue for Glass to Metal -- At my wit's end...

Hey,
I have been attempting to glue silver bails to fused glass and I have
had nothing but problems...

Tried superglue... got brittle and they basically fell off.
Tried Goop... got rubbery and they basically slid off.
Tried 2 part epoxy... seemed good, but even the slightest 'torque'
pressure and they snap off.


I am at the complete end of my rope. Both the bail and the glass were
abraded and clean.
I want to weep.


Any suggestions?
What am I doing wrong??
Andrea

Igno (test for moderation during Peter's absence)

wrote:
Hey,
I have been attempting to glue silver bails to fused glass and I have
had nothing but problems...

Tried superglue... got brittle and they basically fell off.
Tried Goop... got rubbery and they basically slid off.
Tried 2 part epoxy... seemed good, but even the slightest 'torque'
pressure and they snap off.


I am at the complete end of my rope. Both the bail and the glass were
abraded and clean.
I want to weep.


Any suggestions?
What am I doing wrong??
Andrea



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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:30:30 +0000, bliss3333 wrote:

wrote:
Hey,
I have been attempting to glue silver bails to fused glass and I have
had nothing but problems...

Tried superglue... got brittle and they basically fell off.
Tried Goop... got rubbery and they basically slid off.
Tried 2 part epoxy... seemed good, but even the slightest 'torque'
pressure and they snap off.


I am at the complete end of my rope. Both the bail and the glass were
abraded and clean.
I want to weep.


Any suggestions?
What am I doing wrong??
Andrea


1st of all I know the frustration of vailure.
However, if its been done before then it can be done again.
You need to get the right combination of material and technique and
youll succeed.
What we need are some pictures of the components unglued together with
dimensions of the contact areas.
secondly gluing is a poor way to bond glass and metal.So joint
construction/design is vital to get it to work.
Await your pictures. then well suggest the right way to go.

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4ax.com:

Hey,
I have been attempting to glue silver bails to fused glass and I have
had nothing but problems...

Tried superglue... got brittle and they basically fell off.
Tried Goop... got rubbery and they basically slid off.
Tried 2 part epoxy... seemed good, but even the slightest 'torque'
pressure and they snap off.


I am at the complete end of my rope. Both the bail and the glass were
abraded and clean.
I want to weep.


Any suggestions?
What am I doing wrong??
Andrea




I use super glue gel(note the lack of capitals) to dop gemstones to brass
dops. I haven't tried it, but if you hit both the glass and the silver
with some 600 grit sand paper at the point of contact, I don't see why it
wouldn't work. Other than by applying heat with an alcohol lamp, I have
quite a time getting the gemstones loose.

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Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:30:30 GMT in rec.crafts.jewelry a thought sat
on 's chest like a vulture, I said "Pluck It! And
with the feather I'll tickle your throat and you can throw it up to
me" Said he "I shall" & thus puked:

Hey,
I have been attempting to glue silver bails to fused glass and I have
had nothing but problems...

Tried superglue... got brittle and they basically fell off.
Tried Goop... got rubbery and they basically slid off.
Tried 2 part epoxy... seemed good, but even the slightest 'torque'
pressure and they snap off.

Have you tried that ape glue?
It puffs up and foams so be careful.

I am at the complete end of my rope. Both the bail and the glass were
abraded and clean.
I want to weep.


Any suggestions?
What am I doing wrong??
Andrea

wrote:

Hey,
I have been attempting to glue silver bails to fused glass and I have
had nothing but problems...

Tried superglue... got brittle and they basically fell off.
Tried Goop... got rubbery and they basically slid off.
Tried 2 part epoxy... seemed good, but even the slightest 'torque'
pressure and they snap off.


I am at the complete end of my rope. Both the bail and the glass were
abraded and clean.
I want to weep.


Any suggestions?
What am I doing wrong??
Andrea


E6000 (my wife uses it on her fused glass just as you describe) or
possibly test silicone sealer as used for aquariums. I also think the
repair glue used for automobile rearview mirrors could work. It is
similar to the UV cureing adhesive dentists use.

Carl


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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:30:30 +0000, bliss3333 wrote:

[Try clear 100% silicone rubber caulk. Make sure everything's clean first;
use denatured alcohol to degrease, and let that dry before gluing (don't
touch it after degreasing). Don't use too much, because it's easy to make a
mess, and let it set overnight before stressing the joint. Do this in a
well-ventilated area, since the acetic acid fumes from the rubber are
somewhat unpleasant. I've had pretty good results with Goop as well, but you
need to work quickly with that stuff; it skins over almost immediately,
which might be what happened to you.]

Andrew Werby
www.unitedartworks.com



wrote in message
...
Hey,
I have been attempting to glue silver bails to fused glass and I have
had nothing but problems...

Tried superglue... got brittle and they basically fell off.
Tried Goop... got rubbery and they basically slid off.
Tried 2 part epoxy... seemed good, but even the slightest 'torque'
pressure and they snap off.


I am at the complete end of my rope. Both the bail and the glass were
abraded and clean.
I want to weep.


Any suggestions?
What am I doing wrong??
Andrea

Try calling an auto glass repair shop.
They have special glass adhesives that are used for attaching rear-view
mirrors and such to glass. One of those might be workable.

Also try to find a way to attach it with mechanical means -- bolts,
screws, tabs, soft rivets, prongs, bezels, etc.
--
mbstevens

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:30:30 GMT in rec.crafts.jewelry a thought sat
on 's chest like a vulture, I said "Pluck It! And
with the feather I'll tickle your throat and you can throw it up to
me" Said he "I shall" & thus puked:

Hey,
I have been attempting to glue silver bails to fused glass and I have
had nothing but problems...

Tried superglue... got brittle and they basically fell off.
Tried Goop... got rubbery and they basically slid off.
Tried 2 part epoxy... seemed good, but even the slightest 'torque'
pressure and they snap off.

Have you tried that ape glue?
It puffs up and foams so be careful.

I am at the complete end of my rope. Both the bail and the glass were
abraded and clean.
I want to weep.


Any suggestions?
What am I doing wrong??
Andrea