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Ir filtration system - any recommendations?
Hi, ALl, I was wondering whether anyone is familiar with air-
filtration/fume hood type systems suitble for a very small in-home glassworking bench. Best would be somehting that coudl be lifted onto the working surface during soldering/grinding (tho' I intend to do most of my grinding outside, as I have a covered porch), then lifted off and moved when I'm wither scoring glass, or using the table for some other purpose. TIA! - Kris |
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Ir filtration system - any recommendations?
On Jun 18, 11:04*am, Kris Krieger wrote:
Hi, ALl, I was wondering whether anyone is familiar with air- filtration/fume hood type systems suitble for a very small in-home glassworking bench. *Best would be somehting that coudl be lifted onto the working surface during soldering/grinding (tho' I intend to do most of my grinding outside, as I have a covered porch), then lifted off and moved when I'm wither scoring glass, or using the table for some other purpose. TIA! - Kris Hakko makes a good fume trap and if you have a way to vent the air outside you could juririg a stove top exhaust. It's the fumes from the flux that you need to vent away not from grinding unless you are grinding dry. |
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Chemo the Clown wrote in
: On Jun 18, 11:04*am, Kris Krieger wrote: Hi, ALl, I was wondering whether anyone is familiar with air- filtration/fume hood type systems suitble for a very small in-home glassworking bench. *Best would be somehting that coudl be lifted onto the working surface during soldering/grinding (tho' I intend to do most of my grinding outside, as I have a covered porch), then lifted off and moved when I'm either scoring glass, or using the table for some other purpose. TIA! - Kris Hakko makes a good fume trap and if you have a way to vent the air outside you could juririg a stove top exhaust. It's the fumes from the flux that you need to vent away not from grinding unless you are grinding dry. Thanks, I'm looking up their info ((I'm trying to decide whether I should go for a fume hood or fume collector, or whether I could get away with turning my Miele on and wiring the nozzle to the desk (it has a HEPA filter and I can get either super- filter bags, or HEPA bags for "double filtering"), or whether I should get a window fan (pointed outdoors) and rig up a duct. Or maybe just get a small folding table and chair and do it outside before the day heats up too much )) - Kris |
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Ir filtration system - any recommendations?
I have 15 or so Honeywell HEPA air cleaners all over my 2500 sqft shop. I got 6 from this guy a few monthsb ago. The price is cheaper than buying replacement filters http://cgi.ebay.com/Honeywell-17250-...QQcmdZViewItem Vic |
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On Jun 18, 7:07*pm, wrote:
I have 15 *or so Honeywell HEPA air cleaners all over my 2500 sqft shop. I got 6 from this guy a few monthsb ago. The price is cheaper than buying replacement filtershttp://cgi.ebay.com/Honeywell-17250-Air-Purifier-SilentComfort-True-H... Vic 15? Geez, your shop must be in a cave! I have about 2200 shop and have one overhead extractor exhaust in my work area that moves over 800 cfm. |
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Ir filtration system - any recommendations?
On Jun 18, 4:06 pm, Kris Krieger wrote:
Chemo the Clown wrote : On Jun 18, 11:04 am, Kris Krieger wrote: Hi, ALl, I was wondering whether anyone is familiar with air- filtration/fume hood type systems suitble for a very small in-home glassworking bench. Best would be somehting that coudl be lifted onto the working surface during soldering/grinding (tho' I intend to do most of my grinding outside, as I have a covered porch), then lifted off and moved when I'm either scoring glass, or using the table for some other purpose. TIA! - Kris Hakko makes a good fume trap and if you have a way to vent the air outside you could juririg a stove top exhaust. It's the fumes from the flux that you need to vent away not from grinding unless you are grinding dry. Thanks, I'm looking up their info ((I'm trying to decide whether I should go for a fume hood or fume collector, or whether I could get away with turning my Miele on and wiring the nozzle to the desk (it has a HEPA filter and I can get either super- filter bags, or HEPA bags for "double filtering"), or whether I should get a window fan (pointed outdoors) and rig up a duct. Or maybe just get a small folding table and chair and do it outside before the day heats up too much )) - Kris In calculating fan capacity for fume exhaust there are type A and type B exhaust requirements. Flux fumes are noxious and rated as type A. That means your fan capacity should be 125 times the face surface area of your hood. If you have a 24" x 30" hood, you need a fan that draws 625 cubic feet per minute. Many glass artisans (for stained glass and torchworking) have rigged an overhead hood with an inline duct fan like these: http://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20fans.html Dennis Brady Victorian Art Glass www.vicartglass.com |
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On Jun 19, 10:46 am, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Jun 18, 7:07 pm, wrote: I have 15 or so Honeywell HEPA air cleaners all over my 2500 sqft shop. I got 6 from this guy a few monthsb ago. The price is cheaper than buying replacement filtershttp://cgi.ebay.com/Honeywell-17250-Air-Purifier-SilentComfort-True-H... Vic 15? Geez, your shop must be in a cave! I have about 2200 shop and have one overhead extractor exhaust in my work area that moves over 800 cfm. These Honeywell units say they change the air in an 13'x13' room 6 times and hour. So I need about 15 units. I think these are better than and overhead unit as they are right on the benches where the dust and fumes are created. Not pulling all the dust through out the shop to the ceiling unit. |
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On Jun 19, 9:47 pm, Steve Ackman
wrote: In , on Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:07:30 -0700 (PDT), , wrote: I have 15 or so Honeywell HEPA air cleaners all over my 2500 sqft shop. I got 6 from this guy a few monthsb ago. The price is cheaper than buying replacement filters I imagine you didn't have to pay the exorbitant shipping fees though... since you live practically next door, you could just pick them up. They gave a discounted shipping price and I got the order in 2 days |
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Ir filtration system - any recommendations?
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:06:04 -0500, Kris Krieger
wrote: Chemo the Clown wrote in : On Jun 18, 11:04*am, Kris Krieger wrote: Hi, ALl, I was wondering whether anyone is familiar with air- filtration/fume hood type systems suitble for a very small in-home glassworking bench. *Best would be somehting that coudl be lifted onto the working surface during soldering/grinding (tho' I intend to do most of my grinding outside, as I have a covered porch), then lifted off and moved when I'm either scoring glass, or using the table for some other purpose. TIA! - Kris Hakko makes a good fume trap and if you have a way to vent the air outside you could juririg a stove top exhaust. It's the fumes from the flux that you need to vent away not from grinding unless you are grinding dry. Thanks, I'm looking up their info ((I'm trying to decide whether I should go for a fume hood or fume collector, or whether I could get away with turning my Miele on and wiring the nozzle to the desk (it has a HEPA filter and I can get either super- filter bags, or HEPA bags for "double filtering"), or whether I should get a window fan (pointed outdoors) and rig up a duct. Or maybe just get a small folding table and chair and do it outside before the day heats up too much )) - Kris One thing to consider is that HEPA stands for (more or less) "High Efficiency Particulate Air" filter. The key word here is "particulate". Although they are very good at trapping very tiny particles, there is a lot of non-particulate stuff (fumes) that are released during soldering. HEPA won't do squat about those. Like Chemo noted, you need a fume trap (does Hakko make one big enough for sg work? I only know of their electronics stations). A homemade fume hood using a stove hood and venting *outside* would be much better than any filtration system. Just extend the sides of the hood down further towards your bench. Of course, there are advantages for good air filtering as well, but ridding a shop of fumes ain't one of them. Joe |
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On Jun 20, 6:20*am, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:06:04 -0500, Kris Krieger wrote: Chemo the Clown wrote in : On Jun 18, 11:04*am, Kris Krieger wrote: Hi, ALl, I was wondering whether anyone is familiar with air- filtration/fume hood type systems suitble for a very small in-home glassworking bench. *Best would be somehting that coudl be lifted onto the working surface during soldering/grinding (tho' I intend to do most of my grinding outside, as I have a covered porch), then lifted off and moved when I'm either scoring glass, or using the table for some other purpose. TIA! - Kris Hakko makes a good fume trap and if you have a way to vent the air outside you could juririg a stove top exhaust. It's the fumes from the flux that you need to vent away not from grinding unless you are grinding dry. Thanks, I'm looking up their info ((I'm trying to decide whether I should go for a fume hood or fume collector, or whether I could get away with turning my Miele on and wiring the nozzle to the desk (it has a HEPA filter and I can get either super- filter bags, or HEPA bags for "double filtering"), or whether I should get a window fan (pointed outdoors) and rig up a duct. *Or maybe just get a small folding table and chair and do it outside before the day heats up too much )) - Kris One thing to consider is that HEPA stands for (more or less) "High Efficiency Particulate Air" filter. The key word here is "particulate". Although they are very good at trapping very tiny particles, there is a lot of non-particulate stuff (fumes) that are released during soldering. HEPA won't do squat about those. Like Chemo noted, you need a fume trap (does Hakko make one big enough for sg work? I only know of their electronics stations). A homemade fume hood using a stove hood and venting *outside* would be much better than any filtration system. Just extend the sides of the hood down further towards your bench. Of course, there are advantages for good air filtering as well, but ridding a shop of fumes ain't one of them. Joe HEPA filters are great for filtering out dust and such but are pretty much useless for removing aerosolled flux fumes. This can be easily demonstrated by placing a piece of cloth or paper towel over the exhaust - which will expediently dampen from the condensed flux. Use filters to remove dust. Exhaust to outside to remove noxious fumes. |
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