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"Charlie" wrote in message ... But, unless that factory has no chemicals in it and the she where it's sold has no chemicals in it and then it must be transported in an air tight container, what's the point when you're going to go home and expose it to chemicals? I mean, everyone washes their clothes in chemicals, or washes their hands in chemicals etc. So it's never going to be truely organic. Besides, what's the difference between that and normal cotton? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm trying to understand! Being in the same air as chemically treated items, and being treated with chemicals are two different things. Washing in "chemicals" and washing in harmful "chemicals" are two different things. Scented detergents and fabric softeners are toxic to some people (like me). Formaldehyde used to treat fabrics are toxic. The dyes are toxic to some people (not me yet). Dry-cleaning chemicals are very toxic. I mean, water is a chemical. We're talking about chemicals that have been shown to be harmful. If you ever get sensitized to any of these things, you will learn very quickly, hopefully. Dwight |
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On 27 Aug 2003 10:25:16 -0700, (LucyD) wrote:
Anyone know where in the UK or Europe I can source organic fabrics suitable for cushion making? I have only found a couple of places so far, both expensive. Any ideas much appreciated. Have you tried www.greenfibres.com? I think Cotton Comfort also sell material - www.eczemaclothing.com. Hope that helps. Good luck. Susan -- Please remove the 'x' to reply |
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Unfortunatly, yes I am sesitive to chemicals but not in the same way as you
described. I can still fortunatly put up with it. I'm allergic to chlorineespecially, but my job is working at a swimming pool. Ah well, we all have different opinions about different things. charlie. "duh who" wrote in message ... "Charlie" wrote in message ... But, unless that factory has no chemicals in it and the she where it's sold has no chemicals in it and then it must be transported in an air tight container, what's the point when you're going to go home and expose it to chemicals? I mean, everyone washes their clothes in chemicals, or washes their hands in chemicals etc. So it's never going to be truely organic. Besides, what's the difference between that and normal cotton? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm trying to understand! Being in the same air as chemically treated items, and being treated with chemicals are two different things. Washing in "chemicals" and washing in harmful "chemicals" are two different things. Scented detergents and fabric softeners are toxic to some people (like me). Formaldehyde used to treat fabrics are toxic. The dyes are toxic to some people (not me yet). Dry-cleaning chemicals are very toxic. I mean, water is a chemical. We're talking about chemicals that have been shown to be harmful. If you ever get sensitized to any of these things, you will learn very quickly, hopefully. Dwight |
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"duh who" wrote in
: "Jane VR" wrote in message u... Charlie wrote: Organic as in looks natural, or organic as in "had no pesticides used on the cotton"? I dount you'll ever find the latter! As for the first type, unfinished muslim is good from fabric shops. Charlie. Yes, organically grown hemp might be cheaper. I don't know a source, though, jane Would hemp be necessarily scratchier than linen? There are some gorgeous hemps fabrics now. Like linen, it can come in different textures, thinknesses, and stiffness, and "scrathiness". I used to have a source bookmarked in my fabrics folder but I seemed to have misplaced it... If I find it again, I'll post it. |
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There are some gorgeous hemps fabrics now. Like linen, it can come in different textures, thinknesses, and stiffness, and "scrathiness". I used to have a source bookmarked in my fabrics folder but I seemed to have misplaced it... If I find it again, I'll post it. I had ordered a swatch booklet from Hemp Traders, but nothing in it struck me as comfortable enough for a shirt. Maybe pants, but I've not been able to master pants yet. I know Dharma Trading near me has some hemp and hemp blend fabrics. |
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Organic fabric source needed (Charlie) But, unless that factory has no chemicals in it and the she where it's sold has no chemicals in it and then it must be transported in an air tight container, what's the point when you're going to go home and expose it to chemicals? I mean, everyone washes their clothes in chemicals, or washes their hands in chemicals etc. So it's never going to be truely organic. Besides, what's the difference between that and normal cotton? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm trying to understand! Charlie. --- Truthfully, Charlie: I have no clue. My mantra is 'Better Chemicals For Daily Living!' joking, but there are a lot of mid-30 Yuppies With Mucho Money who want Only The Best, Purest Things for their newly started families, and they will spend enormous sums on cottons which claim to be virgin to chemicals. I've got a catalog from one such place, if I could just lay my hands on it...it has products like a bit of clothesline with accompanying wooden pins, and the caption: "Environmentally Friendly Clothes Dryer', and a totally hilarious, sky-high price. Ditto the 'Recycle Your Veggie Parings' product: a stainless steel thingie with a lid, a mere $60.00 or some such. Can you say: 'Bucket With a Lid', which contains debris soon to be buried in the back yard? I think I see your point--we've polluted the oceans, our cities, the air we breathe, yet some of us think sleeping on/and in 'pure' fibers will keep us safe. I think there may be some sort of wishful thinking here--pure cotton/fibers as a charm against the evils of modern life. Curing the big issues seems so out of our control, so impossible, yet here is some small thing they can control. Many homes do indeed make their inhabitants suffer from over-exposure to chemicals, and it is far from a joking matter, but, IMHO, the cure lies in controlling what types of products go into the actual construction of the house. Vinyls, wallboard, pressed wood chip cabinets, carpeting: all these things outgas chemical fumes for years. Pressure treated lumber is treated with arsenic, which is a proven carcinogen. It has just now begun to be banned here for use in constructing children's outdoor play swings and such. In the meantime, though, many schools have these very expensive, toxic play areas which are still used by our children. Cea surrounded by dust bunnies and chemically treated fabric of all sorts, which defy both description and cataloguing |
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Charlie wrote:
I think that was really well put. As for all this organic, "healthier living" this is what my Nan says. "If I'm bloody healty and I'm 80, if my mum lived to 100 and at that age she could still do everything she wanted to, and if everyone in my generation managed to survive without all these wonderful things, then why on earth do we *need* them?". Well, if you don't need them, you should be thankful for your good health, I think. I do know of people who need organic stuff, all natural fibers stuff, or whatever because of health problems. I don't need it, but I'm glad it's available for those who do. -- I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa |
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I dunno. I know some people will see this as odd, but I think if we've
suvived as a human race for thousands of years, then I don't see what the fuss is about now. All these celebrities telling us that we need this and we need that to ensure our health. Seems odd to me. Charlie. "Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply" wrote in message ... Charlie wrote: I think that was really well put. As for all this organic, "healthier living" this is what my Nan says. "If I'm bloody healty and I'm 80, if my mum lived to 100 and at that age she could still do everything she wanted to, and if everyone in my generation managed to survive without all these wonderful things, then why on earth do we *need* them?". Well, if you don't need them, you should be thankful for your good health, I think. I do know of people who need organic stuff, all natural fibers stuff, or whatever because of health problems. I don't need it, but I'm glad it's available for those who do. -- I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa |
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Your Nan is healthy at 80 and my Aunt Charlotte's still spry at 92. The
ones who *did* need it aren't here to tell you about that. It isn't fair to ask your Nan. -Charlotte Charlie wrote: I dunno. I know some people will see this as odd, but I think if we've suvived as a human race for thousands of years, then I don't see what the fuss is about now. All these celebrities telling us that we need this and we need that to ensure our health. Seems odd to me. Charlie. |
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Charlie wrote:
I dunno. I know some people will see this as odd, but I think if we've suvived as a human race for thousands of years, then I don't see what the fuss is about now. All these celebrities telling us that we need this and we need that to ensure our health. Seems odd to me. But we haven't had cars and fridges and technology and heavy industries for thousands of years. The world is a very different place now and we've made it so. Perhaps we should all try to do our little bit not to continue raping the planet - turn the light off when you're not in the room, don't use more water than you need, try to use fewer chemicals. It makes good sense if we want to leave our children and grandchildren a place to live in. -- Sally Holmes Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England |
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