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Wonder Under vs. Heat & Bond vs. ???
Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of
detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature- H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible??? Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small town in an emergency? VBG Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO. |
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Wonder Under vs. Heat & Bond vs. ???
I've always liked the WU better. I have had it refuse to detach, but just a
few times. If you really don't like to have the shredded edges, fuse all your fabric first, then remove the release paper before cutting out. If you have to draw a pattern, you can draw on the release paper, then iron (drawing side down) to the fused side of the fabric. The design will transfer to the fabric, and then you can cut out the design. Be sure to not touch your iron to the exposed fusible on the fabric....use the release paper as a pressing cloth! I've had terrible luck with Seam a Seam 2. It leaves visible "bumps" on the front...especially on light colored fabrics. I've tried another kind of light fusible that Sue Nickels likes (darn! I can't think of the name!) and it would NOT stay on the paper long enough to work with it. I have some of Teri Austin's fusible that doesn't have the paper, but haven't tried it yet. The instructions are intimidating. As I collect the new books from the fusible "experts"...Laura Wasilowski, Frieda Anderson, and Robbie Eklow....it seems they all prefer WU. I think the issue with the gumming needle is important. And Laura and Frieda use the method of fusing the fabric and drawing on the release paper. That works the best if you're fusing small pieces.....like on postcards!!!! -- Kathyl remove "nospam" before mchsi http://community.webshots.com/user/kathylquiltz "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote in message ups.com... Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature- H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible??? Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small town in an emergency? VBG Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO. |
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Hmmm... other than my bad batch of WU yesterday, I haven't had all these
problems with WU. Never had it detach from the paper, never been hard to remove, never shredded the edges of the fabric unless I used really dull scissors. -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of Fabric Tramps http://www.kayneyquilting.com , remove the obvious to reply "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote in message ups.com... Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature- H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible??? Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small town in an emergency? VBG Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO. |
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I have absolutely no luck at all with H&B (I have the Lite version). Never
have. I either over or under cook it every time. And I always end up with those little glue beads showing through to the top. And it does gum up the needle. I fought with it yesterday with my postcard backs and was immediately reminded why I hate it so. I think I've finally used the last of it up. I haven't used Wonder Under in a while, so don't remember much about it. My current favorite is Steam a Seam Lite. Not Steam a Seam II. The original SaS only has paper on one side. I never manage to draw on the correct paper side with the SaSII. In general, SaS Lite isn't too fussy about temperature, it sticks well, leaves a smooth layer or glue (not little beads) and the paper comes off easily enough. I'm not sure how available it is locally, though, or even if they still make the original version. I ordered a bunch on line at some point and have been using that. -- Donna973 There is no MAYBE in my reply address "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote in message ups.com... Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature- H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is |
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So if I understand right - you can fuse just one side? This would be
handy because I have found it annoying how the fusible can detach from the piece of fabric that you are trying to manouver into position. Lisa Caryl wrote: I don't like either one. I like Steam-a-Seam 2 Lite. I like how it is lightly sticky so pieces stay in place until you fuse them. The only thing you have to be careful about is tracing on the correct side. You have to trace on the paper that has the glue attached to it. When I have a shape rough cut, I place it on the fabric, and hit it for a second or two with the iron. Cut the shape, and the remaining paper releases easily. I've been using this on all my ATC's, Postcards, and fusible projects for awhile now, always works well for me. |
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I use Steam a Seam 2 if I ever use/need a fusible.
I have no problems with it - but I don't have wide experience with it. .. In message . com, Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. writes Let's start a debate! I always used H&B cuz WU has a nasty habit of detaching off the paper and making me crazy- H&B stays nicely attached to it's paper. WU is less tempermental with the iron's temperature- H&B will refuse to cooperate without the perfect temperature. WU is harder to remove the paper and shreds the edges of my appliques (I REALLY hate that!)- H&B peels off nicely. H&B gums up the needle when you sew thru it- WU doesn't mess up the needle. I don't like the fusible web without paper attached. IS there a perfect fusible??? Does it cost less than an arm and a leg and can I find it in my small town in an emergency? VBG Leslie (still making those postcards!) & The Furbabies in MO. -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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"Allison" wrote in message ... So if I understand right - you can fuse just one side? This would be handy because I have found it annoying how the fusible can detach from the piece of fabric that you are trying to manouver into position. Hi Allison, It is like other fusibles, but, it has 2 paper liners rather than just one. It is also slightly sticky on both sides of the glue. One paper liner releases away from the glue easily, and the other one has the fusible glue more firmly attached to it. That is the one you want to draw your pieces on. Once you draw your applique pieces on the paper, you rough cut around the shape(s). The easy-release paper liner usually falls away at this point. You then place your pieces on your applique fabric. The stickiness helps keep it in place. Hit it with the iron for just a second or two. Cut the shape on the drawn lines, and the remaining paper should release easily. Position the applique piece on your background. You can reposition it as needed until you are happy with it. Since it is sticky, it won't curl up as other fusibles do. This is really helpful when you're doing multi layered things like flower petals. When you're happy with the placement of the applique pieces, iron them permanently in place. Does that make sense to you? I think I went through the steps of using it too quickly in my first post. Hope this helps, (And NAYY to the Steam-A-Seam Company) -- Lisa Caryl http://www.picturetrails.com/quiltygurl remove the obvious to reply |
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I don't like any of them. (How's that for being crabby?) Gummy needles
really interfere with my plans. Plus, of course, we don't know what the eventual, years down the road results of fusibles will be. My quilts get used to pieces and that's not a concern to me. If I need something to hold still until I can stitch it, I put just the tiniest nothing speck of plain old "Elmer's" glue stick under it. Washes out and is edible if you take a notion. Polly |
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Wonder Under vs. Heat & Bond vs. ???
I don't think its so crabby Polly. The heavy stuff will gum up a needle
but the lite has never given me any problem.. I use it for wall hangings with machine appliqué. I certainly wouldn't want to try anything heirloom quality with the stuff. YOu know, as the fat nazi I have to ask what the glue stick calories and fat content are ; ) Taria, will be a good while before I imagine you as crabby dear Polly. Polly Esther wrote: I don't like any of them. (How's that for being crabby?) Gummy needles really interfere with my plans. Plus, of course, we don't know what the eventual, years down the road results of fusibles will be. My quilts get used to pieces and that's not a concern to me. If I need something to hold still until I can stitch it, I put just the tiniest nothing speck of plain old "Elmer's" glue stick under it. Washes out and is edible if you take a notion. Polly |
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