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Lucretia Borgia wrote: I was not referring to Pat's teasing about Oxford English, but about Darla's tendency to correct the grammar of others. It's a pet peeve of hers, people posting with mispellings or grammatical mistakes, sometimes she lets them slide, other times she pounces. Caryn Oh FFS - who the hell cares. If Darla corrects my English, or my grammar, I don't care. I don't get bent out of shape about it. You are as bad Caryn in having your pet peeves as we all see. Give it a rest will you ? Now Darla, there's a host of grammatical errors for you and Caryn can bring out jv to put me down and then maybe everyone will feel better. Sheesh. Again with this lie that I either am JV or control her? I think she's funny, I agree with her a lot, but I am not her, nor do I have any control over where and when she posts. She made me spew once when she suggested I should listen to input from Sunflower about my designs. I hardly think that I'd have ever suggested something so outrageously offensive to my creative sensibilities. Darla and I get along just fine, we disagree and agree, we respect each other and tease each other. Why you felt you had to try to cause strife between us I do not understand, nor do I understand why you felt the need to perpetuate a lie. Caryn |
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On 1/31/05 9:20 PM, in article rHBLd.3948$0O4.1685@trnddc03, "Gill Murray"
wrote: Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 1/31/05 7:37 PM, in article 1bALd.1196$eD4.84@trnddc05, "Gill Murray" wrote: Sally Swindells wrote: (snip!) Sally I have to admit, although most of the Americans I know talk of "erbs, I cringe, because it was always "H"erbs in my family. Maybe the dropped "H" came in when cockney was in favor, as in "My fair Lady". Just pondering! Gillian Florida Herb was my FIL. I cook with 'erbs! Cheryl Oh No, Cheryl, I thought you were h'educated!! Gillian My French teacher swore up and down that the "proper" pronunciation was "erbs", my English teacher swore it was "ha-irbs". But my FIL was "Ha-erb". Face it - English, as a language, makes it's own rules up - as it goes along! Cheryl |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:43:35 GMT, "Pat P"
wrote: "Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message ... Herb was my FIL. I cook with 'erbs! Cheryl I know what it is - they think they`re being all posh and that it`s a French word (with the silent HAITCH!!! LOL! Poor deluded things. Pat P If they're so keen on French perhaps they'll get Notre Dame right now? That should be pronounced the French way. But here we are English and never did get on with the French (and vice versa) so we pronounce the English word herbs as herbs. If you are speaking French or reading a French menu the pronunciation is 'erb. Do you think we should teach them how to pronounce Warwick and Keswick? Sally |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:11:44 -0500, Cheryl Isaak
wrote: My French teacher swore up and down that the "proper" pronunciation was "erbs", my English teacher swore it was "ha-irbs". But my FIL was "Ha-erb". Your French teacher spoke French, your English teacher spoke English and your FIL's name was Herbert. No prob! Face it - English, as a language, makes it's own rules up - as it goes along! Cheryl All languages evolve and new words have to be invented, like 'Mobile phone' Sally |
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Unless you're French!
Sally Oh no, Vic - there`s NOTHING correct about pronouncing it "`erbs!" Pat P |
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"Lucretia Borgia" wrote in message ... "Lucretia Borgia" wrote in message . .. Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 1/31/05 7:37 PM, in article 1bALd.1196$eD4.84@trnddc05, "Gill Murray" wrote: Sally Swindells wrote: (snip!) Sally I have to admit, although most of the Americans I know talk of "erbs, I cringe, because it was always "H"erbs in my family. Maybe the dropped "H" came in when cockney was in favor, as in "My fair Lady". Just pondering! Gillian Florida Herb was my FIL. I cook with 'erbs! Cheryl Oh No, Cheryl, I thought you were h'educated!! Gillian I 'oped she were but maybe not. Has a side hissue, ain`t this going to drive them as `ates OT posts nuts? Pat P 'es becos it's got a s'outing subject line. OK - so we can be a bit LOUD at times! (s`outing??? Only you could drop your haitches in the MIDDLE of a word!) Pat P |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:57:17 GMT, "Pat P"
Why? It`s a valid opinion. A Southern accent DOES sound very laid-back - a new York accent is ugly - at least to my ears. Here I find that the Birmingham accent is the most attrocious assault on the ears, closely followed by the Liverpool one. Unfortunately they give an often mistaken impression of ignorance, too. Yet I could listen to a Geordie accent, or even better, a Western Isles accent forever. Birmingham just grates. I suppose it`s like music - some you love and some just hits the wrong spot and makes you shudder! I wouldn`t be without any of them, all the same. Pat P Going to Gardening Society AGM tonight and I know I wont be able to understand much of what the Chairman says - he's from Norfolk. Now there is an accent! Sally |
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"Sally Swindells" wrote in message ... On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:43:35 GMT, "Pat P" wrote: "Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message .. . Herb was my FIL. I cook with 'erbs! Cheryl I know what it is - they think they`re being all posh and that it`s a French word (with the silent HAITCH!!! LOL! Poor deluded things. Pat P If they're so keen on French perhaps they'll get Notre Dame right now? That should be pronounced the French way. But here we are English and never did get on with the French (and vice versa) so we pronounce the English word herbs as herbs. If you are speaking French or reading a French menu the pronunciation is 'erb. Do you think we should teach them how to pronounce Warwick and Keswick? Sally Try getting them to pronounce Happisburgh, Stiffkey, or even Cley! They`ll probably shoot themselves! Mind you, if you`re a furriner to these parts, you might, too! Pat P |
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"Lucretia Borgia" wrote in message ... On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:43:35 GMT, "Pat P" wrote: "Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message . .. Herb was my FIL. I cook with 'erbs! Cheryl I know what it is - they think they`re being all posh and that it`s a French word (with the silent HAITCH!!! LOL! Poor deluded things. Pat P If they're so keen on French perhaps they'll get Notre Dame right now? That should be pronounced the French way. But here we are English and never did get on with the French (and vice versa) so we pronounce the English word herbs as herbs. If you are speaking French or reading a French menu the pronunciation is 'erb. Do you think we should teach them how to pronounce Warwick and Keswick? Sally And throw in Worcestershire too please - Not to mention Leicestershire! LOL! Now really, Sheena and Sally, we shouldn`t mock the afflicted! Pat P |
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"Tegan" wrote in message ups.com... Is it this, Caryn? "English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." Before I went over to visit Claire, I (wrongly) thought I'd be fine with understanding the different expressions and accents. I mean, I do spend most of my day watching (or listening to, at any rate) BBC America, and I've been taking advantage of Netflix to find movies with British actors that have never been released over here. HA!! For the first couple of days of my stay, I truly though I had to be the most stupid person on fhe planet! I was lucky if I caught one word in five for a while. Once I got a bit more comfortable, it got easier, but I know there must still be people left with a poor impression of that poor, addled American... Tegan Ssshh! Do you think we might lay it on a bit thick for Americans, just for the hell of it? ;-)) Pat P |
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