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Hi everyone, I apologize if I'm about to ask the ultimate newbie question,
but I'm not sure what to buy. I was given an 18mm x 13mm 'blue paua" oval cabochon. It's very shallow, only about 1mm tall. Flat back. So I thought I'd set this and either make a necklace or a ring. What guage of silver would best be used for either of the above. I'm not thinking about anythinbg fancy, just a quick new project to keep my mind off exams... Any other advice is greatly appreciated! :O) Thanks everyone, ~ Ian |
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Hi Ian,
Depending on what you want to spend on tools and what you already have on hand, you may want to consider doing a wire wrap piece. A few feet of wire, a couple pair of pliers, and you're ready to roll. If you do it with sheet you'll need fine silver bezel stock, a saw, files, and soldering gear as well. Not a huge investment, but not pocket change either. Without knowing the intended wearer, I'd put it in a pendant. That stone could be a real snag hazard as a ring on anyone who works with their hands. If you think the jewelry making bug is apt to bite, and it probably will. a copy of Tim Mcreight's "The Complete Metalsmith" is the foundation of many a hobby jeweler's library (and more than a few pros too, I'll warrant.) Cheers! Neil On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:56:35 GMT, "Ian Rogers" wrote: Hi everyone, I apologize if I'm about to ask the ultimate newbie question, but I'm not sure what to buy. I was given an 18mm x 13mm 'blue paua" oval cabochon. It's very shallow, only about 1mm tall. Flat back. So I thought I'd set this and either make a necklace or a ring. What guage of silver would best be used for either of the above. I'm not thinking about anythinbg fancy, just a quick new project to keep my mind off exams... Any other advice is greatly appreciated! :O) Thanks everyone, ~ Ian |
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Ian Rogers wrote:
Hi everyone, I apologize if I'm about to ask the ultimate newbie question, but I'm not sure what to buy. I was given an 18mm x 13mm 'blue paua" oval cabochon. It's very shallow, only about 1mm tall. Flat back. So I thought I'd set this and either make a necklace or a ring. What guage of silver would best be used for either of the above. I'm not thinking about anythinbg fancy, just a quick new project to keep my mind off exams... Any other advice is greatly appreciated! :O) Thanks everyone, ~ Ian The shell is really to thin to mess with but if you are set then you should use at least 24 gauge. You might consider finding something to glue it to or inlay it on. |
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![]() "Lamedeer" wrote in message ... The shell is really to thin to mess with but if you are set then you should use at least 24 gauge. You might consider finding something to glue it to or inlay it on. At least 24 gauge, meaning 24 and thinner, or 24 and thicker? I can easily make a backing piece for the cabochon (and have been thinking about it) we tons of 16 guage sheet steel scrap around that I can make use of. ~ Ian |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:08:01 -0800, in hõ "Ian Rogers" wrote:
I can easily make a backing piece for the cabochon (and have been thinking about it) we tons of 16 guage sheet steel scrap around that I can make use of. If you're making a ring, use something for the backing that won't rust or corrode. Any ring is exposed to perspiration. One friend of mine uses old credit cards as build up stock behind thinner cabs, or when even thicker is needed, old CDs. She's got a stack of those CDs that AOL sends out all the time trying to get people to sign up with them. they cut just fine with a jewelers saw and coarser blade, while the credit cards work fine with just snips... A few decades ogo, I recall seeing old vinyl phonograph records apparently used the same way in American Indian jewelry (though sawdust seemed more common and traditional) Peter |
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24 gauge or thicker. I'm thinking of strength since the shell is so thin
and you don't want it to flex. Steel is out of the question. I'm referring to silver. Peter is correct about the vinyl records being use for backing in Indian jewelry but I never thought of CD material. I've never seen saw dust used. Seems it would be more bother than it's worth. Perhaps it was cardboard that deteriorated. I use Mil-Spec transformer fish paper when necessary. If you find it necessary to grind or file the shell to fit be aware that the dust is a deadly poison. Ian Rogers wrote: "Lamedeer" wrote in message ... The shell is really to thin to mess with but if you are set then you should use at least 24 gauge. You might consider finding something to glue it to or inlay it on. At least 24 gauge, meaning 24 and thinner, or 24 and thicker? I can easily make a backing piece for the cabochon (and have been thinking about it) we tons of 16 guage sheet steel scrap around that I can make use of. ~ Ian |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:13:25 GMT, "Peter W.. Rowe,"
wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:08:01 -0800, in h=07=F5 "Ian Rogers" irogers@mak= net.com wrote: I can easily make a backing piece for the cabochon (and have been thin= king=20 about it) we tons of 16 guage sheet steel scrap around that I can make= use=20 of. If you're making a ring, use something for the backing that won't rust o= r corrode. Any ring is exposed to perspiration. One friend of mine uses old credit cards as build up stock behind thinne= r cabs, or when even thicker is needed, old CDs. She's got a stack of those CDs that AO= L sends out all the time trying to get people to sign up with them. they cut just fine = with a jewelers saw and coarser blade, while the credit cards work fine with just snips.= ... A few decades ogo, I recall seeing old vinyl phonograph records apparently use= d the same way in American Indian jewelry (though sawdust seemed more common and tradit= ional) Peter That's a much better idea than matchbook covers, which are the canonical material in Southwest Indian jewelry. The problem with them is that the cardboard shrinks and swells with humidity and that does bad things to the setting. I also wonder what's going to happen when you burnish the bezel down over the shell. IIRC that shell is pretty brittle. I'd worry about cracking. --RC Projects expand to fill the clamps available -- plus 20 percent |
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![]() "Peter W.. Rowe," wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:08:01 -0800, in hõ "Ian Rogers" wrote: If you're making a ring, use something for the backing that won't rust or corrode. Any ring is exposed to perspiration. One friend of mine uses old credit cards as build up stock behind thinner cabs, or when even thicker is needed, old CDs. She's got a stack of those CDs that AOL sends out all the time trying to get people to sign up with them. they cut just fine with a jewelers saw and coarser blade, while the credit cards work fine with just snips... A few decades ogo, I recall seeing old vinyl phonograph records apparently used the same way in American Indian jewelry (though sawdust seemed more common and traditional) Peter Goddamn, that's brilliant!! :O) ~ Ian |
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Hello Peter,
I see that you are still running a good old boys club. Art Peter W.. Rowe, wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:08:01 -0800, in h=07=F5 "Ian Rogers" irogers@ma= knet.com wrote: =20 =20 I can easily make a backing piece for the cabochon (and have been thin= king=20 about it) we tons of 16 guage sheet steel scrap around that I can make= use=20 of. =20 =20 If you're making a ring, use something for the backing that won't rust = or corrode. Any ring is exposed to perspiration. =20 One friend of mine uses old credit cards as build up stock behind thinn= er cabs, or when even thicker is needed, old CDs. She's got a stack of those CDs that A= OL sends out all the time trying to get people to sign up with them. they cut just fine= with a jewelers saw and coarser blade, while the credit cards work fine with just snips= .... A few decades ogo, I recall seeing old vinyl phonograph records apparently us= ed the same way in American Indian jewelry (though sawdust seemed more common and tradi= tional) =20 Peter |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:52:09 -0800, in lõ Lamedeer wrote:
Hello Peter, I see that you are still running a good old boys club. Art So... a a posting wherein I mention a method used by a friend of mine, who happens to be rather young (26), and (trust me on this) very attractively female, gets me told I'm running a "good ol boys club"? I'm afraid I don't get it... Peter Peter W.. Rowe, wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:08:01 -0800, in h=07=F5 "Ian Rogers" irogers@ma= knet.com wrote: =20 =20 I can easily make a backing piece for the cabochon (and have been thin= king=20 about it) we tons of 16 guage sheet steel scrap around that I can make= use=20 of. =20 =20 If you're making a ring, use something for the backing that won't rust = or corrode. Any ring is exposed to perspiration. =20 One friend of mine uses old credit cards as build up stock behind thinn= er cabs, or when even thicker is needed, old CDs. She's got a stack of those CDs that A= OL sends out all the time trying to get people to sign up with them. they cut just fine= with a jewelers saw and coarser blade, while the credit cards work fine with just snips= ... A few decades ogo, I recall seeing old vinyl phonograph records apparently us= ed the same way in American Indian jewelry (though sawdust seemed more common and tradi= tional) =20 Peter |
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