Wanted - glass kiln - UK

HI All
Just wondered if anybody in the UK has a 'spare' kiln (suitable for a
beginner in slumping / fusing etc) - that they want to get rid of
.....?

I was hoping for something with a digital controller - but pretty much
anything considered - can't really afford a new kiln at the moment....

Thanks
Adrian
Suffolk UK
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HI All
Just wondered if anybody in the UK has a 'spare' kiln (suitable for a
beginner in slumping / fusing etc) - that they want to get rid of
....?

I was hoping for something with a digital controller - but pretty much
anything considered - can't really afford a new kiln at the moment....



You know, I've been thinking, again.

I think kilns should cost more once they have been trained, new kilns should
be cheaper, they don't know what to do.

Honestly hope you find one, they are great fun....

HI Javahut

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:50:32 -0400, "Javahut"
wrote:



HI All
Just wondered if anybody in the UK has a 'spare' kiln (suitable for a
beginner in slumping / fusing etc) - that they want to get rid of
....?

I was hoping for something with a digital controller - but pretty much
anything considered - can't really afford a new kiln at the moment....



You know, I've been thinking, again.

g


I think kilns should cost more once they have been trained, new kilns should
be cheaper, they don't know what to do.

I've been thinking the same thing. I've also noticed that we seem to
be seeing the good old 'UK Pounds = Dollars' thing on kiln pricing....

It's almost worth a trip over the pond to collect one.... though I
doubt I'd be able to pass it off as hand luggage g.

Honestly hope you find one, they are great fun....

Mmm - I've got the book (Glass Fusing by Petra Kaiser) - and it
doesn't seem too complicated - but then, these things never do, do
they ?

I've been doing Tiffany-style work for about 5 years now - and would
like to branch out into warmglass - but the cheapest I can find a
little Paragon SC2 for over here is just over 500 UK pounds - or
getting on for 900 USD - which is a bit too much right now.

Where do all the second-hand ( 'trained' g) kilns go ....? I've
looked on eBay - but (as you'd expect) they tend to go for
over-inflated prices.....

Thanks for the encouragement.... maybe it's worth me taking a short
course (the local s/g supplier does 1/2-day, 1-day and 2-day courses)
- just to see if I get on with the technique before shelling out the
cash....

Adrian
Suffolk UK
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"Adrian Brentnall" adrian-the papers and the wrote
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HI Javahut

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:50:32 -0400, "Javahut"
wrote:



HI All
Just wondered if anybody in the UK has a 'spare' kiln (suitable for a
beginner in slumping / fusing etc) - that they want to get rid of
....?

I was hoping for something with a digital controller - but pretty much
anything considered - can't really afford a new kiln at the moment....



You know, I've been thinking, again.

g


I think kilns should cost more once they have been trained, new kilns
should
be cheaper, they don't know what to do.

I've been thinking the same thing. I've also noticed that we seem to
be seeing the good old 'UK Pounds = Dollars' thing on kiln pricing....

It's almost worth a trip over the pond to collect one.... though I
doubt I'd be able to pass it off as hand luggage g.

Honestly hope you find one, they are great fun....

Mmm - I've got the book (Glass Fusing by Petra Kaiser) - and it
doesn't seem too complicated - but then, these things never do, do
they ?

I've been doing Tiffany-style work for about 5 years now - and would
like to branch out into warmglass - but the cheapest I can find a
little Paragon SC2 for over here is just over 500 UK pounds - or
getting on for 900 USD - which is a bit too much right now.

Where do all the second-hand ( 'trained' g) kilns go ....? I've
looked on eBay - but (as you'd expect) they tend to go for
over-inflated prices.....

Thanks for the encouragement.... maybe it's worth me taking a short
course (the local s/g supplier does 1/2-day, 1-day and 2-day courses)
- just to see if I get on with the technique before shelling out the
cash....

Adrian


You mean, you are willing to lay out that kind of money and you don't even
know if you will like it?
the comparison to the work you are currently doing is non existent, not even
similar other than you have to cut the glass. SO that can't be used to
decide.

Go take the class... the worst thing that can happen is that you learn
something, never a bad thing... and you will be able to understand your own
interests a bit more.

It is possible to build a kiln, that really is pretty simple, the controller
is where it gets complicated, and if you are really nice, speak softly and
slowly so he can understand your accent, njb,(here on the group) will help
you out with a controller that is better than anything I have seen sold, for
a really good price,( but even that is expensive, your just getting more for
your money.)

Good luck!

HI Javahut

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:32:43 -0400, "Javahut"
wrote:


"Adrian Brentnall" adrian-the papers and the wrote
in message ...
HI Javahut

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:50:32 -0400, "Javahut"
wrote:



HI All
Just wondered if anybody in the UK has a 'spare' kiln (suitable for a
beginner in slumping / fusing etc) - that they want to get rid of
....?

I was hoping for something with a digital controller - but pretty much
anything considered - can't really afford a new kiln at the moment....



You know, I've been thinking, again.

g


I think kilns should cost more once they have been trained, new kilns
should
be cheaper, they don't know what to do.

I've been thinking the same thing. I've also noticed that we seem to
be seeing the good old 'UK Pounds = Dollars' thing on kiln pricing....

It's almost worth a trip over the pond to collect one.... though I
doubt I'd be able to pass it off as hand luggage g.

Honestly hope you find one, they are great fun....

Mmm - I've got the book (Glass Fusing by Petra Kaiser) - and it
doesn't seem too complicated - but then, these things never do, do
they ?

I've been doing Tiffany-style work for about 5 years now - and would
like to branch out into warmglass - but the cheapest I can find a
little Paragon SC2 for over here is just over 500 UK pounds - or
getting on for 900 USD - which is a bit too much right now.

Where do all the second-hand ( 'trained' g) kilns go ....? I've
looked on eBay - but (as you'd expect) they tend to go for
over-inflated prices.....

Thanks for the encouragement.... maybe it's worth me taking a short
course (the local s/g supplier does 1/2-day, 1-day and 2-day courses)
- just to see if I get on with the technique before shelling out the
cash....

Adrian


You mean, you are willing to lay out that kind of money and you don't even
know if you will like it?

Fair point - perhaps I'd better give the course a try g

the comparison to the work you are currently doing is non existent, not even
similar other than you have to cut the glass. SO that can't be used to
decide.

I understand that......


Go take the class... the worst thing that can happen is that you learn
something, never a bad thing... and you will be able to understand your own
interests a bit more.

Yes - I have a good idea of what I want to be able to do, and the
reading I've done suggests that it's possible - but there's nothing to
beat some 'hands on' experience.....


It is possible to build a kiln, that really is pretty simple, the controller
is where it gets complicated, and if you are really nice, speak softly and
slowly so he can understand your accent, njb,(here on the group) will help
you out with a controller that is better than anything I have seen sold, for
a really good price,( but even that is expensive, your just getting more for
your money.)

Sounds interesting.....
One of the great imponderables is the 'how big a kiln?' question - but
that's probably a bit 'cart before the horse' ... I'll make some
enquiries about the warmglass courses - thanks !


Good luck!

Many thanks !!

Adrian
Suffolk UK

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Adrian - glad to see you are wanting to progress in your stained glass
work.

How are you doing?

As to getting hold of a 'trained' kiln - why not start small and see if
you can find an enamelling kiln locally to get started with.

We have bought several and pointed students towards finding their own
by advertising in your local newspaper 'wanted' columns.

Many hobbyists get themselves one of these and in time when they have
given enough enamelled jewellery as Xmas pressies just push it to the
back of the garage until they see an advert asking for them!!

Of course you probably wont get a controller with them but no harm in
learning to fire by eye!!

Unfortunately most kilned-glass workers tend to buy another one rather
than dispose of their old kilns unless they need the space - I use my
last remaining small enamelling kiln for testing new glass and
combinations.

You could also advertise on line with adtrader.co.uk and freeads.co.uk

Hope this helps.

Of course you know we sell all the glass you need too as well as the
Boyce Lundstrom series of books and lessons packs!!

Elizabeth

Hi adrian, If you are looking for a small glass Furnace for beginners
check this site: www.falorniglass.com they have very small glass
furnace called MICROGLASS from 10 KG to 75 kg workable glass.

Fab