Crafters Needed

We are hand-picking American crafters (USA only please) who are willing and
able to produce and ship their quality crafts in the USA. We are *not*
looking for mass-production factories that crank out useless trinkets and
widgets. If so, we'd just import from China and Taiwan. Instead we want
only genuine, top-quality handcrafted items made right here in the USA.
Here's how it works:

+ If you haven't already, make samples of your handcrafted items.
+ Take quality pictures of them.
+ Send us the pictures (mail, e-mail, or post online and e-mail the URL).
+ Send us a brief narrative about yourself, your crafts and your commitment
to quality.

If we are interested in you and your crafts, we will follow up via e-mail
and/or phone call so that we can get to know you better. If you are
selected, then here's how it works:

+ We negotiate wholesale prices (what we'll pay you for your crafts).
+ We gather required information (turnaround time, photos, descriptions,
dimensions, weight).
+ We add your crafts to our website(s) and promote sales.
+ We process secure retail orders from our customers.
+ We immediately forward a copy of the order to you including our official
invoice to be shipped with the product.
+ You fulfill the orders (pack and ship with our invoice/label).
+ We pay you immediately (wire transfer) upon shipping confirmation.

The idea here is that you get to do what you do best -- quality crafts --
and we get to do what we do best -- online promotion, sales, order
processing and related customer service. The only "business activities" you
perform is checking for orders (daily) then packing and shipping. We can
help you obtain the appropriate shipping materials. In some cases we may
even provide them. There will be no paperwork to do except for printing our
final invoice and the shipping label. Depending upon our relationship we
may even decide to provide you with the resources required to generate the
invoices and labels. We might even provide you with an entire PC, printer,
and internet connection. We may even be willing to pre-pay for your crafts.
These benefits are all negotiable once our relationship has been
established. We'll do whatever it takes to ensure that 99% of your time is
spent working on your crafts.

There's no catch. It's this simple. As long as you produce quality items
and ship them in an acceptable time frame, we'll live happily ever after.
You have absolutely nothing to lose. We both have everything to gain from
doing what we are supposed to do and anything else we can think of to help
each other. If either of us are less than satisfied for any reason, we
simply terminate the relationship.

Please respond via e-mail and include your preferred e-mail address, phone
number, best time to call you, and any information you are willing to
provide about your crafts. Please reply to "Quality Crafts at MetroEast dot
Net" (remove the quotes and spaces and replace words with the appropriate
characters -- we've listed it this way to make it harder for spammers to
pick up our address here in the newsgroups).

All aspects are open for discussion and therefore your thoughts and comments
are always appreciated. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Kevin Sawyer, General Manager
American Crafts Direct * Handcrafts Direct * USA Crafts Direct

PS - Feel free to forward this message to other crafters.

Please forgive the mistype. The e-mail address is "Crafts Direct at Metro
East dot Net" not "Quality Crafts at Metro East dot Net" as previously
specified (although that address has now been created...so both are
functional at this time).

We have been providing Internet services, hosting, and consulting since 1995
and presently host over 100 e-commerce sites. We are involved in several
joint-ventures that help companies and individuals bring their products and
services to the web. I would be happy to provide more details in a private
forum.

I have a few close friends and relatives who are craftspersons and who have
tried to sell their crafts on the Internet with little or no success. They
can not afford to pay someone to develop a site/store nor can they afford to
pay someone to promote it. After much discussion it was my idea to leverage
knowledge and experience to promote and sell their crafts online in a manner
that is mutually beneficial in the purest sense (all parties have natural
incentives to perform as expected and no one wins unless all participate as
agreed). However, I'm not interested in selling junk or trying to sell
crafts of inconsistent quality. I will dedicate the resources (servers,
bandwidth, programming, merchant accounts, payment processing, customer
service before/after the sale, etc.) only after I have found enough
craftspersons who are willing and able to perform as expected. I intend to
have close relationships with each craftsperson and help them in every way
possible so that they can focus on their crafts. They are welcome to set
their wholesale prices after which I will determine what I feel is a fair
retail markup. If we don't both make money, we'll both lose. It's that
simple.

Please e-mail me directly and I'll be happy to answer any questions you may
have.

Thanks, and sorry again for posting an incorrect e-mail address.

Kevin Sawyer, General Manager
American Crafts Direct * Handcrafts Direct * USA Crafts Direct

PS - You won't find anything in Google until we are up and running. If
you'd like to know a little more about me and one of my Internet-related
companies, check out http://www.apci.net.

"Kevin Sawyer, General Manager" Crafts Direct at MetroEast dot Net wrote
in message ...
We are hand-picking American crafters (USA only please) who are willing
and
able to produce and ship their quality crafts in the USA. We are *not*
looking for mass-production factories that crank out useless trinkets and
widgets. If so, we'd just import from China and Taiwan. Instead we want
only genuine, top-quality handcrafted items made right here in the USA.
Here's how it works:

+ If you haven't already, make samples of your handcrafted items.
+ Take quality pictures of them.
+ Send us the pictures (mail, e-mail, or post online and e-mail the URL).
+ Send us a brief narrative about yourself, your crafts and your
commitment
to quality.

If we are interested in you and your crafts, we will follow up via e-mail
and/or phone call so that we can get to know you better. If you are
selected, then here's how it works:

+ We negotiate wholesale prices (what we'll pay you for your crafts).
+ We gather required information (turnaround time, photos, descriptions,
dimensions, weight).
+ We add your crafts to our website(s) and promote sales.
+ We process secure retail orders from our customers.
+ We immediately forward a copy of the order to you including our
official
invoice to be shipped with the product.
+ You fulfill the orders (pack and ship with our invoice/label).
+ We pay you immediately (wire transfer) upon shipping confirmation.

The idea here is that you get to do what you do best -- quality crafts --
and we get to do what we do best -- online promotion, sales, order
processing and related customer service. The only "business activities"
you
perform is checking for orders (daily) then packing and shipping. We can
help you obtain the appropriate shipping materials. In some cases we may
even provide them. There will be no paperwork to do except for printing
our
final invoice and the shipping label. Depending upon our relationship we
may even decide to provide you with the resources required to generate the
invoices and labels. We might even provide you with an entire PC,
printer,
and internet connection. We may even be willing to pre-pay for your
crafts.
These benefits are all negotiable once our relationship has been
established. We'll do whatever it takes to ensure that 99% of your time
is
spent working on your crafts.

There's no catch. It's this simple. As long as you produce quality items
and ship them in an acceptable time frame, we'll live happily ever after.
You have absolutely nothing to lose. We both have everything to gain from
doing what we are supposed to do and anything else we can think of to help
each other. If either of us are less than satisfied for any reason, we
simply terminate the relationship.

Please respond via e-mail and include your preferred e-mail address, phone
number, best time to call you, and any information you are willing to
provide about your crafts. Please reply to "Quality Crafts at MetroEast
dot
Net" (remove the quotes and spaces and replace words with the appropriate
characters -- we've listed it this way to make it harder for spammers to
pick up our address here in the newsgroups).

All aspects are open for discussion and therefore your thoughts and
comments
are always appreciated. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Kevin Sawyer, General Manager
American Crafts Direct * Handcrafts Direct * USA Crafts Direct

PS - Feel free to forward this message to other crafters.

Ditto!!!
I think the last time he was looking for small lighthouses.

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
Web Site Updated 06/15/04

W.I.P. - "Fiddler on the Roof".
W.I.L., "Romantic Venice",
"Ocean Princess", "Southwest Charm",
"Rainbow Trail", "Indian Pottery", "One Earth",
"Spirit of the Full Moon"
and "+?", "+?", "+?".

"escapee" wrote in message
...
Ding Ding Ding, Warning, Warning, Warning...

I do not trust this.



On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:56:40 -0500, "Kevin Sawyer, General Manager"
Crafts
Direct at MetroEast dot Net opined:

Please forgive the mistype. The e-mail address is "Crafts Direct at
Metro
East dot Net" not "Quality Crafts at Metro East dot Net" as previously
specified (although that address has now been created...so both are
functional at this time).

We have been providing Internet services, hosting, and consulting since
1995
and presently host over 100 e-commerce sites. We are involved in several
joint-ventures that help companies and individuals bring their products
and
services to the web. I would be happy to provide more details in a
private
forum.

I have a few close friends and relatives who are craftspersons and who
have
tried to sell their crafts on the Internet with little or no success.
They
can not afford to pay someone to develop a site/store nor can they afford
to
pay someone to promote it. After much discussion it was my idea to
leverage
knowledge and experience to promote and sell their crafts online in a
manner
that is mutually beneficial in the purest sense (all parties have natural
incentives to perform as expected and no one wins unless all participate
as
agreed). However, I'm not interested in selling junk or trying to sell
crafts of inconsistent quality. I will dedicate the resources (servers,
bandwidth, programming, merchant accounts, payment processing, customer
service before/after the sale, etc.) only after I have found enough
craftspersons who are willing and able to perform as expected. I intend
to
have close relationships with each craftsperson and help them in every
way
possible so that they can focus on their crafts. They are welcome to set
their wholesale prices after which I will determine what I feel is a fair
retail markup. If we don't both make money, we'll both lose. It's that
simple.

Please e-mail me directly and I'll be happy to answer any questions you
may
have.

Thanks, and sorry again for posting an incorrect e-mail address.

Kevin Sawyer, General Manager
American Crafts Direct * Handcrafts Direct * USA Crafts Direct

PS - You won't find anything in Google until we are up and running. If
you'd like to know a little more about me and one of my Internet-related
companies, check out http://www.apci.net.

"Kevin Sawyer, General Manager" Crafts Direct at MetroEast dot Net
wrote
in message ...
We are hand-picking American crafters (USA only please) who are willing
and
able to produce and ship their quality crafts in the USA. We are *not*
looking for mass-production factories that crank out useless trinkets
and
widgets. If so, we'd just import from China and Taiwan. Instead we
want
only genuine, top-quality handcrafted items made right here in the USA.
Here's how it works:

+ If you haven't already, make samples of your handcrafted items.
+ Take quality pictures of them.
+ Send us the pictures (mail, e-mail, or post online and e-mail the
URL).
+ Send us a brief narrative about yourself, your crafts and your
commitment
to quality.

If we are interested in you and your crafts, we will follow up via
e-mail
and/or phone call so that we can get to know you better. If you are
selected, then here's how it works:

+ We negotiate wholesale prices (what we'll pay you for your crafts).
+ We gather required information (turnaround time, photos,
descriptions,
dimensions, weight).
+ We add your crafts to our website(s) and promote sales.
+ We process secure retail orders from our customers.
+ We immediately forward a copy of the order to you including our
official
invoice to be shipped with the product.
+ You fulfill the orders (pack and ship with our invoice/label).
+ We pay you immediately (wire transfer) upon shipping confirmation.

The idea here is that you get to do what you do best -- quality
crafts --
and we get to do what we do best -- online promotion, sales, order
processing and related customer service. The only "business
activities"
you
perform is checking for orders (daily) then packing and shipping. We
can
help you obtain the appropriate shipping materials. In some cases we
may
even provide them. There will be no paperwork to do except for
printing
our
final invoice and the shipping label. Depending upon our relationship
we
may even decide to provide you with the resources required to generate
the
invoices and labels. We might even provide you with an entire PC,
printer,
and internet connection. We may even be willing to pre-pay for your
crafts.
These benefits are all negotiable once our relationship has been
established. We'll do whatever it takes to ensure that 99% of your
time
is
spent working on your crafts.

There's no catch. It's this simple. As long as you produce quality
items
and ship them in an acceptable time frame, we'll live happily ever
after.
You have absolutely nothing to lose. We both have everything to gain
from
doing what we are supposed to do and anything else we can think of to
help
each other. If either of us are less than satisfied for any reason, we
simply terminate the relationship.

Please respond via e-mail and include your preferred e-mail address,
phone
number, best time to call you, and any information you are willing to
provide about your crafts. Please reply to "Quality Crafts at
MetroEast
dot
Net" (remove the quotes and spaces and replace words with the
appropriate
characters -- we've listed it this way to make it harder for spammers
to
pick up our address here in the newsgroups).

All aspects are open for discussion and therefore your thoughts and
comments
are always appreciated. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Kevin Sawyer, General Manager
American Crafts Direct * Handcrafts Direct * USA Crafts Direct

PS - Feel free to forward this message to other crafters.







Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for a friend?
http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:56:00 GMT, escapee
wrote:

Ding Ding Ding, Warning, Warning, Warning...

I do not trust this.


I've seen similar posts on here previously. I refuse to give him more
hits on his site, whatever the address may be, to find out if it is in
fact the same redistribution scheme that I've seen before - where you
have to provide quantities of whatever you're selling but get paid on
consignment.


Jenn L.
--
http://community.webshots.com/user/jaliace
http://sewu9corn.blogspot.com
Pastel Horse baby book cover (Cross Stitcher 1993)
UFO's:
Lady Scarlet's Journey (Just Nan)
Lady of the Flag (MIrabilia)

I have no interest in consignment. I am not interested in particular
quantities. I'm interested in finding people who make quality handcrafted
items and who will sell them to me for resale. What difference does it make
whether you ship them to me or to my customer? Actually, I'll tell you what
difference it makes... It cuts the shipping costs in half and either reduces
the price to the customer or increases the profit margin for the sellers.

It's simple. You handcraft your products and set your price. If it's too
high, I won't be able to put enough of a mark-up on them to make it worth my
trouble and have it still sell. We both lose!

Skeptical is great. I'm quite skeptical myself most of the time. But
rather than being cynical and making assumptions, why not just ask
questions? The reason I joined this discussion group is to DISCUSS the
possibilities and the opportunities. You have as much say in things as I
do.

By the way, I didn't post a site hoping to get hits somewhere. I'm not part
of any distribution scheme. This is my own venture based upon my knowledge,
interests, and many years of experience. I'm not looking to get rich quick
or even to get rich from this. I'm already doing just fine. Yes, it must
be profitable, but right after that it must be fun and interesting. In
order for it to be profitable for me, it must be profitable for all
involved. The customers must have a good experience and feel that what they
received is worth every penny they paid and the craftspersons have to have a
good experience and feel that what they produced and shipped was worth every
penny they paid. My job is to make both of those things happen and keep it
all in balance. That's what I'm interested in doing so here I am.

Next question/comment, please...

--Kevin

"Jenn Liace" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:56:00 GMT, escapee
wrote:

Ding Ding Ding, Warning, Warning, Warning...

I do not trust this.


I've seen similar posts on here previously. I refuse to give him more
hits on his site, whatever the address may be, to find out if it is in
fact the same redistribution scheme that I've seen before - where you
have to provide quantities of whatever you're selling but get paid on
consignment.


Jenn L.
--
http://community.webshots.com/user/jaliace
http://sewu9corn.blogspot.com
Pastel Horse baby book cover (Cross Stitcher 1993)
UFO's:
Lady Scarlet's Journey (Just Nan)
Lady of the Flag (MIrabilia)

Yes, Yes, and Yes....all of my companies are registered, incorporated, and
listed. However I might form a new entity for this venture...I have not yet
decided if it is necessary. And no, I wouldn't have any problems paying in
advance once a trust relationship has been established with you.

--Kevin

"escapee" wrote in message
...
Is you company registered, incorporated, or listed with any credible
authorities, anywhere? Do you plan to pay up front? When I sell
something I
make, unless I know the person, I require payment, then I ship. Is that
what
your intention is? If not, the people here are rather intelligent and we
are
passionate about or needlecrafts. If I want to sell anything, there's
ebay, so
why would I go with you who will take a 100% mark-up, most likely?

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:23:21 -0500, "Kevin Sawyer, General Manager"
Crafts
Direct at MetroEast dot Net opined:

I have no interest in consignment. I am not interested in particular
quantities. I'm interested in finding people who make quality
handcrafted
items and who will sell them to me for resale. What difference does it
make
whether you ship them to me or to my customer? Actually, I'll tell you
what
difference it makes... It cuts the shipping costs in half and either
reduces
the price to the customer or increases the profit margin for the sellers.

It's simple. You handcraft your products and set your price. If it's
too
high, I won't be able to put enough of a mark-up on them to make it worth
my
trouble and have it still sell. We both lose!

Skeptical is great. I'm quite skeptical myself most of the time. But
rather than being cynical and making assumptions, why not just ask
questions? The reason I joined this discussion group is to DISCUSS the
possibilities and the opportunities. You have as much say in things as I
do.

By the way, I didn't post a site hoping to get hits somewhere. I'm not
part
of any distribution scheme. This is my own venture based upon my
knowledge,
interests, and many years of experience. I'm not looking to get rich
quick
or even to get rich from this. I'm already doing just fine. Yes, it
must
be profitable, but right after that it must be fun and interesting. In
order for it to be profitable for me, it must be profitable for all
involved. The customers must have a good experience and feel that what
they
received is worth every penny they paid and the craftspersons have to
have a
good experience and feel that what they produced and shipped was worth
every
penny they paid. My job is to make both of those things happen and keep
it
all in balance. That's what I'm interested in doing so here I am.

Next question/comment, please...

--Kevin

"Jenn Liace" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:56:00 GMT, escapee
wrote:

Ding Ding Ding, Warning, Warning, Warning...

I do not trust this.


I've seen similar posts on here previously. I refuse to give him more
hits on his site, whatever the address may be, to find out if it is in
fact the same redistribution scheme that I've seen before - where you
have to provide quantities of whatever you're selling but get paid on
consignment.


Jenn L.
--
http://community.webshots.com/user/jaliace
http://sewu9corn.blogspot.com
Pastel Horse baby book cover (Cross Stitcher 1993)
UFO's:
Lady Scarlet's Journey (Just Nan)
Lady of the Flag (MIrabilia)




Need a good, cheap, knowledge expanding present for a friend?
http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html

We are still looking for lighthouse-related arts and crafts. That pursuit
is actually what developed into this more general interest in quality
handcrafts.

--Kevin

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Ditto!!!
I think the last time he was looking for small lighthouses.

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
Web Site Updated 06/15/04

Actually the best way to reduce the shipping costs for the end-user is
to ship directly from the person producing the item to the customer or
for the manufacturer to have a retail establishment or deliver locally
to one. Shipping to a middleman (that would be you!) means extra costs
and another hand trying to take profits. So what if you think you have
some great customer list--Ebay and other internet sales sites give us a
huge customer base without you and are very upfront about what
percentage they will take.

Almost everyone on RCTN knows we can't sell anything we make at a high
enough price to cover the costs of materials and bring us up to federal
minimum wage for our efforts. You are already saying we can't set a
reasonable price in your second paragraph because you are too concerned
about your profits. Why on earth should we want to be what will amount
to your sweatshop workers? I notice you aren't being very speedy with
giving out enough details so we can find out what laws are like where
you are basing your operation. Since one of your messages says you
aren't even certain you are forming a company for this yet, you don't
particularly inspire much confidence in your operation. Are you hiring
people? How are you handling sales taxes? What about customer
satisfaction? Exactly how are you doing your marketing? Wanna share
some sales projections? Are you providing patterns that may be used an
unlimited number of times or does your supplier have to go buy the
rights to mass produce someone else's design? You are aware many
popular needlework (which is all that is relevant on this newsgroup)
designers will not allow stitched copies of their work to be
mass-produced for resale.

Why don't you go get a real job or make your own "crafts" if you are so
hot to sell them? Of course you could just keep arguing with people
here...I love to watch people like you figuratively stick their own feet
in their mouth. I'm sure you find that HUGELY profitable.
{BWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH}

Kevin Sawyer, General Manager wrote:
I have no interest in consignment. I am not interested in particular
quantities. I'm interested in finding people who make quality handcrafted
items and who will sell them to me for resale. What difference does it make
whether you ship them to me or to my customer? Actually, I'll tell you what
difference it makes... It cuts the shipping costs in half and either reduces
the price to the customer or increases the profit margin for the sellers.

It's simple. You handcraft your products and set your price. If it's too
high, I won't be able to put enough of a mark-up on them to make it worth my
trouble and have it still sell. We both lose!

Skeptical is great. I'm quite skeptical myself most of the time. But
rather than being cynical and making assumptions, why not just ask
questions? The reason I joined this discussion group is to DISCUSS the
possibilities and the opportunities. You have as much say in things as I
do.

By the way, I didn't post a site hoping to get hits somewhere. I'm not part
of any distribution scheme. This is my own venture based upon my knowledge,
interests, and many years of experience. I'm not looking to get rich quick
or even to get rich from this. I'm already doing just fine. Yes, it must
be profitable, but right after that it must be fun and interesting. In
order for it to be profitable for me, it must be profitable for all
involved. The customers must have a good experience and feel that what they
received is worth every penny they paid and the craftspersons have to have a
good experience and feel that what they produced and shipped was worth every
penny they paid. My job is to make both of those things happen and keep it
all in balance. That's what I'm interested in doing so here I am.

Next question/comment, please...

--
Brenda
"Nothing...I got nothing for sale."

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:49:50 -0500, "Kevin Sawyer, General Manager"
Crafts Direct at MetroEast dot Net wrote:

And no, I wouldn't have any problems paying in
advance once a trust relationship has been established with you.

In other words you expect us to sell to you on consignment from day 1
and "maybe" you'll consider an alternative arrangement at some future
date.

shaking head


Jenn L.
--
http://community.webshots.com/user/jaliace
http://sewu9corn.blogspot.com
Pastel Horse baby book cover (Cross Stitcher 1993)
UFO's:
Lady Scarlet's Journey (Just Nan)
Lady of the Flag (MIrabilia)

Feel better? Why are you so utterly convinced that someone is trying to
screw you? Set your price. I'll buy and market for resale. If you're
already selling more than you can make, then don't bother...you've got it
made and you don't need someone like me. If you would like to be selling
more and whatever price you deem to be fair then drop me a line. Either
they'll sell or they won't. We'll see. At least I'm willing to try.

How am I handling sales taxes? Do you even know anything about sales taxes?
I've been handling sales taxes for the past 15 years. If/when someone from
Illinois orders from me, I will collect the required sales taxes and remit
them as usual. Pretty simple, really.

I'm not arguing. Go back and read carefully. Or, don't bother and just
chill.

--Kevin

"Rhiannon" wrote in message
...
Actually the best way to reduce the shipping costs for the end-user is
to ship directly from the person producing the item to the customer or
for the manufacturer to have a retail establishment or deliver locally
to one. Shipping to a middleman (that would be you!) means extra costs
and another hand trying to take profits. So what if you think you have
some great customer list--Ebay and other internet sales sites give us a
huge customer base without you and are very upfront about what
percentage they will take.

Almost everyone on RCTN knows we can't sell anything we make at a high
enough price to cover the costs of materials and bring us up to federal
minimum wage for our efforts. You are already saying we can't set a
reasonable price in your second paragraph because you are too concerned
about your profits. Why on earth should we want to be what will amount
to your sweatshop workers? I notice you aren't being very speedy with
giving out enough details so we can find out what laws are like where
you are basing your operation. Since one of your messages says you
aren't even certain you are forming a company for this yet, you don't
particularly inspire much confidence in your operation. Are you hiring
people? How are you handling sales taxes? What about customer
satisfaction? Exactly how are you doing your marketing? Wanna share
some sales projections? Are you providing patterns that may be used an
unlimited number of times or does your supplier have to go buy the
rights to mass produce someone else's design? You are aware many
popular needlework (which is all that is relevant on this newsgroup)
designers will not allow stitched copies of their work to be
mass-produced for resale.

Why don't you go get a real job or make your own "crafts" if you are so
hot to sell them? Of course you could just keep arguing with people
here...I love to watch people like you figuratively stick their own feet
in their mouth. I'm sure you find that HUGELY profitable.
{BWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH}

Kevin Sawyer, General Manager wrote:
I have no interest in consignment. I am not interested in particular
quantities. I'm interested in finding people who make quality
handcrafted
items and who will sell them to me for resale. What difference does it
make
whether you ship them to me or to my customer? Actually, I'll tell you
what
difference it makes... It cuts the shipping costs in half and either
reduces
the price to the customer or increases the profit margin for the
sellers.

It's simple. You handcraft your products and set your price. If it's
too
high, I won't be able to put enough of a mark-up on them to make it
worth my
trouble and have it still sell. We both lose!

Skeptical is great. I'm quite skeptical myself most of the time. But
rather than being cynical and making assumptions, why not just ask
questions? The reason I joined this discussion group is to DISCUSS the
possibilities and the opportunities. You have as much say in things as
I
do.

By the way, I didn't post a site hoping to get hits somewhere. I'm not
part
of any distribution scheme. This is my own venture based upon my
knowledge,
interests, and many years of experience. I'm not looking to get rich
quick
or even to get rich from this. I'm already doing just fine. Yes, it
must
be profitable, but right after that it must be fun and interesting. In
order for it to be profitable for me, it must be profitable for all
involved. The customers must have a good experience and feel that what
they
received is worth every penny they paid and the craftspersons have to
have a
good experience and feel that what they produced and shipped was worth
every
penny they paid. My job is to make both of those things happen and keep
it
all in balance. That's what I'm interested in doing so here I am.

Next question/comment, please...

--
Brenda
"Nothing...I got nothing for sale."