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Old June 1st 07, 05:01 PM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
Buck
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Default Beginner's Question--Potter's Wheel

They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.

I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):

1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very least)
vintage now?

Any DIY possibilites?

2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID NOT hold
momentum.

Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over the
web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.

They look so light that I have suspicions.

Any Help?

thanks.

Buck

(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area. Tools,
clay, glazes?)

Thanks Again


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Old June 1st 07, 06:02 PM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
steve [email protected]
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Default Beginner's Question--Potter's Wheel

most pottery wheels you can buy today new or used are pretty good.
the bad ones have long disapeared. i have two Brent electric wheels.
very strong, very stable. lockerby kick wheels with their motor
attachement capability are very good for both kicking and electric
assistance.

i had a home built wheel years ago, bought it from someone for cheap.
today i'd sooner buy one then make one although "it's just a wheel" so
it should be easy to make one.

see ya

steve
www.graberspottery.com


On Jun 1, 9:01 am, "Buck" wrote:
They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.

I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):

1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very least)
vintage now?

Any DIY possibilites?

2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID NOT hold
momentum.

Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over the
web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.

They look so light that I have suspicions.

Any Help?

thanks.

Buck

(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area. Tools,
clay, glazes?)

Thanks Again



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Old June 1st 07, 08:48 PM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
Andrew Werby
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Default Beginner's Question--Potter's Wheel


"Buck" wrote in message
t...
They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.

I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):

1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very least)
vintage now?

Any DIY possibilites?


[I've seen kickwheels built from car parts; a VW as I recall. But these are
pretty simple machines; all you need is a bottom thrust bearing, a flywheel
(a tire filled with concrete) an axle, and a top plate with axial bearing,
plus a wooden frame to hold all that and sit in. I still like my kickwheel
for trimming, but it's hard to beat the electrics for throwing, especially
for larger pieces.]

2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID NOT
hold momentum.


[I haven't seen one of those for quite a while.]

Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over
the web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.

They look so light that I have suspicions.

Any Help?

thanks.

Buck


[There are some wheels sold as toys, that really don't work at all for
things larger than a teacup. But the professional brands are pretty good;
modern electric speed controls are cheaper than the mechanical systems that
used to prevail, and actually do function pretty well.]

'

(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area.
Tools, clay, glazes?)

Thanks Again

[The SF Bay Area has lots of good ceramic supply places: Leslie Ceramics in
Oakland, Claypeople in Richmond, Ceramics and Crafts on Bryant St. in SF;
Sherry's in San Carlos - I'm sure there are more.]

Andrew Werby
www.unitedartworks.com


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Old June 2nd 07, 05:00 AM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
Marco Milazzo
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Default Beginner's Question--Potter's Wheel



"The Self-Reliant Potter," an old book by Andrew Holden has plans for
a DIY treadle-wheel and a DIY kickwheel -- but I wouldn't recommend
building either. Wheels are relatively simple machines, but they
have to be very well made, or they're inferior to manufactured wheels
-- which is usually the case.

Get a second job, or make some hand-built pieces and sell them -- or
do anything to get the modest amount of money necessary to buy a good
second-hand wheel. You'll be better off in several ways. There
should be many to choose from in your area.

Marco


On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:01:57 GMT, "Buck"
wrote:

They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.

I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):

1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very least)
vintage now?

Any DIY possibilites?

2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID NOT hold
momentum.

Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over the
web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.

They look so light that I have suspicions.

Any Help?

thanks.

Buck

(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area. Tools,
clay, glazes?)

Thanks Again

  #5  
Old June 2nd 07, 09:35 PM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
Buck
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Posts: 5
Default Beginner's Question--Potter's Wheel

Money is not a problem.

But no matter how much one has, spending on a loser that winds up in a
storage shed and is eventually thrown away is, to say the least, irritating.

I have a few mis-fires from the realm of woodworking that I remember well.

Thanks,

Buck


"Marco Milazzo" wrote in message
...


"The Self-Reliant Potter," an old book by Andrew Holden has plans for
a DIY treadle-wheel and a DIY kickwheel -- but I wouldn't recommend
building either. Wheels are relatively simple machines, but they
have to be very well made, or they're inferior to manufactured wheels
-- which is usually the case.

Get a second job, or make some hand-built pieces and sell them -- or
do anything to get the modest amount of money necessary to buy a good
second-hand wheel. You'll be better off in several ways. There
should be many to choose from in your area.

Marco


On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:01:57 GMT, "Buck"
wrote:

They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.

I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):

1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very least)
vintage now?

Any DIY possibilites?

2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID NOT
hold
momentum.

Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over
the
web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.

They look so light that I have suspicions.

Any Help?

thanks.

Buck

(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area.
Tools,
clay, glazes?)

Thanks Again



  #6  
Old June 3rd 07, 02:12 AM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
DKat
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Posts: 141
Default Beginner's Question--Potter's Wheel

If money is not an issue, then I recommend the RK Shimpo Whisper as a wheel.
Kick wheels are great to learn on (and to keep in shape with) but as far as
ease of use an electric wheel is far nicer. The Whisper, as its name
suggest, is really quiet. The wheel also turns freely when off so it can be
used as a banding wheel. I only throw at most 25# at a time but it should
handle much more than that. You can also resale it easily if you want.

http://www.clay-king.com/itemrkwhisper.html
http://www.sheffield-pottery.com/SHI...EEL-p/srkw.htm
http://www.sheffield-pottery.com/SHI...L-p/svlwfs.htm

"Buck" wrote in message
t...
Money is not a problem.

But no matter how much one has, spending on a loser that winds up in a
storage shed and is eventually thrown away is, to say the least,
irritating.

I have a few mis-fires from the realm of woodworking that I remember well.

Thanks,

Buck


"Marco Milazzo" wrote in message
...


"The Self-Reliant Potter," an old book by Andrew Holden has plans for
a DIY treadle-wheel and a DIY kickwheel -- but I wouldn't recommend
building either. Wheels are relatively simple machines, but they
have to be very well made, or they're inferior to manufactured wheels
-- which is usually the case.

Get a second job, or make some hand-built pieces and sell them -- or
do anything to get the modest amount of money necessary to buy a good
second-hand wheel. You'll be better off in several ways. There
should be many to choose from in your area.

Marco


On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:01:57 GMT, "Buck"
wrote:

They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.

I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):

1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very
least)
vintage now?

Any DIY possibilites?

2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that
seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID NOT
hold
momentum.

Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over
the
web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.

They look so light that I have suspicions.

Any Help?

thanks.

Buck

(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area.
Tools,
clay, glazes?)

Thanks Again





  #7  
Old June 3rd 07, 01:41 PM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
steve [email protected]
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Posts: 43
Default Beginner's Question--Potter's Wheel

pottery wheels have a great resale value. if, like in woodworking for
you, things do not work out you can still sell a potters wheel easily
for not a big loss.

see ya

steve


On Jun 2, 6:12 pm, "DKat" wrote:
If money is not an issue, then I recommend the RK Shimpo Whisper as a wheel.
Kick wheels are great to learn on (and to keep in shape with) but as far as
ease of use an electric wheel is far nicer. The Whisper, as its name
suggest, is really quiet. The wheel also turns freely when off so it can be
used as a banding wheel. I only throw at most 25# at a time but it should
handle much more than that. You can also resale it easily if you want.

http://www.clay-king.com/itemrkwhisp...ERY-WHEEL-p/sv...

"Buck" wrote in message

t...



Money is not a problem.


But no matter how much one has, spending on a loser that winds up in a
storage shed and is eventually thrown away is, to say the least,
irritating.


I have a few mis-fires from the realm of woodworking that I remember well.


Thanks,


Buck


"Marco Milazzo" wrote in message
.. .


"The Self-Reliant Potter," an old book by Andrew Holden has plans for
a DIY treadle-wheel and a DIY kickwheel -- but I wouldn't recommend
building either. Wheels are relatively simple machines, but they
have to be very well made, or they're inferior to manufactured wheels
-- which is usually the case.


Get a second job, or make some hand-built pieces and sell them -- or
do anything to get the modest amount of money necessary to buy a good
second-hand wheel. You'll be better off in several ways. There
should be many to choose from in your area.


Marco


On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:01:57 GMT, "Buck"
wrote:


They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.


I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):


1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very
least)
vintage now?


Any DIY possibilites?


2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that
seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID NOT
hold
momentum.


Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over
the
web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.


They look so light that I have suspicions.


Any Help?


thanks.


Buck


(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area.
Tools,
clay, glazes?)


Thanks Again- Hide quoted text -


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Old June 4th 07, 04:22 AM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
Buck
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Posts: 5
Default Beginner's Question--Potter's Wheel

Things are still 'working out' in woodworking, but i've just bought a few
clunkers in the way of machinery.

A Ryobi B2K Table saw, for example. No guts, no compatibility with other
equipment, no nada. I use it for the most simple jobs only.

I just don't want to buy several wheels to get it just right.

I notice kilns are plentiful in the used market.

Arouses my curiosity.

Buck


wrote in message
ups.com...
pottery wheels have a great resale value. if, like in woodworking for
you, things do not work out you can still sell a potters wheel easily
for not a big loss.

see ya

steve


On Jun 2, 6:12 pm, "DKat" wrote:
If money is not an issue, then I recommend the RK Shimpo Whisper as a
wheel.
Kick wheels are great to learn on (and to keep in shape with) but as far
as
ease of use an electric wheel is far nicer. The Whisper, as its name
suggest, is really quiet. The wheel also turns freely when off so it can
be
used as a banding wheel. I only throw at most 25# at a time but it
should
handle much more than that. You can also resale it easily if you want.

http://www.clay-king.com/itemrkwhisp...ERY-WHEEL-p/sv...

"Buck" wrote in message

t...



Money is not a problem.


But no matter how much one has, spending on a loser that winds up in a
storage shed and is eventually thrown away is, to say the least,
irritating.


I have a few mis-fires from the realm of woodworking that I remember
well.


Thanks,


Buck


"Marco Milazzo" wrote in message
.. .


"The Self-Reliant Potter," an old book by Andrew Holden has plans for
a DIY treadle-wheel and a DIY kickwheel -- but I wouldn't recommend
building either. Wheels are relatively simple machines, but they
have to be very well made, or they're inferior to manufactured wheels
-- which is usually the case.


Get a second job, or make some hand-built pieces and sell them -- or
do anything to get the modest amount of money necessary to buy a good
second-hand wheel. You'll be better off in several ways. There
should be many to choose from in your area.


Marco


On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:01:57 GMT, "Buck"
wrote:


They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of
characteristics
and quirks.


I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):


1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever.
No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very
least)
vintage now?


Any DIY possibilites?


2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that
seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID
NOT
hold
momentum.


Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all
over
the
web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.


They look so light that I have suspicions.


Any Help?


thanks.


Buck


(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area.
Tools,
clay, glazes?)


Thanks Again- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -





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Old June 5th 07, 08:04 PM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
Buck
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Default Beginner's Question--Thanks to all--Potter's Wheel

A good lot of information to start with.

that product called "whisper" is intriguing.

I think I'll be making a small nuisance out of myself at a few of the Bay
Area suppliers.

Regards

Buck


"Buck" wrote in message
t...
They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.

I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):

1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very least)
vintage now?

Any DIY possibilites?

2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that seemed
to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and DID NOT
hold momentum.

Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over
the web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.

They look so light that I have suspicions.

Any Help?

thanks.

Buck

(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area.
Tools, clay, glazes?)

Thanks Again



  #10  
Old June 5th 07, 09:47 PM posted to rec.crafts.pottery
DKat
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Posts: 141
Default Beginner's Question--Thanks to all--Potter's Wheel

Word of warning - by the time you add shipping to the costs at EBay you are
paying more than what you can usually get other places. Bennett has the
lowest prices I ever found for kilns. I think I got my wheel from
Sheffield - or Nevada Dans... Watch for sales which should be about now.

http://www.bennettpottery.com/
http://www.sheffield-pottery.com/
http://www.potterywheel.com/ (nevada dans)

but others are also good.




"Buck" wrote in message
news
A good lot of information to start with.

that product called "whisper" is intriguing.

I think I'll be making a small nuisance out of myself at a few of the Bay
Area suppliers.

Regards

Buck


"Buck" wrote in message
t...
They're all over the place, of course, and have dozens of characteristics
and quirks.

I remember two things (From how long ago I will not mention!):

1. A MASSIVE foot powered wheel that seemed to hold momentum forever. No
power required except the legs. Are these antiques, (or at the very
least) vintage now?

Any DIY possibilites?

2. A little kick lever powered rig with an aluminum top wheel, that
seemed to want to fly apart when you were pedaling it up to speed, and
DID NOT hold momentum.

Well, there are now a myriad of these little electrical ones all over
the web, and they do look simple, but I want something that just doesn't
vibrate.

They look so light that I have suspicions.

Any Help?

thanks.

Buck

(P.S. Good sources of equipment and raw materials in the SF Bay Area.
Tools, clay, glazes?)

Thanks Again





 




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