My Windfall

I am knitting [shirt] sweaters on a number 4 mm needle they are
wonderful to wear ,, and don`t take forever to knit , and are HEAVENLY
to wear ,,, as to Heated buildings,,, you will see that Temps of many
buildings will drop , In other countries , people aren`t overheating
so that they can with summer clothes in the house ,, Sweaters are
deffinitel back also because the World can`t afford this High heating
bills ,,
mirjam

Thats wonderful. I also was given old knitting books and crochet books
from an estate..dating the 30's and 40's I have books here up to the
80's Its facinating to see the patterns for skirts and dresses. It
would take forever to knit one of those with fine yarn. Anyone
interested in a book or two let me know..I would be willing to sell a
few.

In article ,
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote:
If she will follow a 1940-50 pattern than Automaticly there will be
decreases and increases of stitches in the hips , the breasts etc,,,
if i remember correctly we stopped making all those `tailoring`
decreases /increases at the end of 60`s ,,,,

And I still wish they hadn't. It's easier for the manufacturer to
make everyone wear the same boxy shape, but I like set-in sleeves.
I'm happy to see the occasional pattern with set-in sleeves is
appearing in the magazines. Even now that I _am_ a boxy shape,
I look and feel better in something shaped. Tents are for camping,
not wearing.

=Tamar

Good for you Hesira!

I wanted to share my good fortune with you and maybe get a little
advice. One of my students was the sole heir to his grandmother's
estate. Among the things was a stack of needlework pattern books
ranging in dates from the 1930's to the 70's with the majority of them
from the 40's & 50's.
Well, I'm tempted to make myself a sweater, but I'm pretty sure the
sizes are NOT contemporary. The smallest size listed is 12, and the
models are very thin, so I'm guessing that would probably be a size 6.
Also, most of the yarns are no longer available, so I'll have to find
an appropriate substitute. I can figure that part out.

I've also found some older books and patterns at garage and estate
sales, and I have yet to have time to work with any of the patterns,
but since I know my gauge with whatever yarn and most needles, I'd
figure out what yarn to use by looking at gauge. The one you said
gives 6 stitches to inch I'd probably use sport weight yarn to make.
It wouldn't be as tight and thick as using worsted, so unless I
thought the extreme stiffness was needed, that's what I'd do. Just
M2CW.

I wish I had a
scanner so I could show you some of the photos of the various pieces,
but that might violate copyright.

I believe that copyright expires after 30 years, so you are probably
safe on sharing the pictures that are 30 or more years older,
definitely should be safe as long as you don't try and make a profit
from showing them.

Leah

Mirjam,

These were printed in the US. I think it is just a matter of gauge,
because some of the patterns that use worsted weight, use small
needles, and are tailored, and some used larger needles and are looser.

Hesira

I knitted myself some sweaters and vests and shaped the hip part by
adding stiches [well placed around] to fit the more mature shape i
gained , but now i lost some size it is all a bit wide on me , luckiny
i knit fromn neck down and this can be done , but i am a slow knitter
and do other things so i am not looking forward to reknit many parts
,,, thus i am thinking of either using the sewing machine or wearing
belts again ,, now had i knitted in a Square shape and not tailored ,
this would have looked better ,,,,,
mirjam

In article ,
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote:
If she will follow a 1940-50 pattern than Automaticly there will be
decreases and increases of stitches in the hips , the breasts etc,,,
if i remember correctly we stopped making all those `tailoring`
decreases /increases at the end of 60`s ,,,,

And I still wish they hadn't. It's easier for the manufacturer to
make everyone wear the same boxy shape, but I like set-in sleeves.
I'm happy to see the occasional pattern with set-in sleeves is
appearing in the magazines. Even now that I _am_ a boxy shape,
I look and feel better in something shaped. Tents are for camping,
not wearing.

=Tamar

Thank you Hesira , but even if they were printed in USA , maybe the
patters are British UK , somehow the needle sizes sounf UK to me ,,,
in the 70s many books were copied just like that , and i remember many
of my friends not knowing about the difference in sizing getting weird
results in their knittings,,,,
mirjam

Mirjam,

These were printed in the US. I think it is just a matter of gauge,
because some of the patterns that use worsted weight, use small
needles, and are tailored, and some used larger needles and are looser.

Hesira

" YarnWright" wrote in message
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"hesira" wrote in message
ups.com...
I finally found some measurements in these old patterns. Check this
out! in 1946 a size 14 measured: Bust 32", Waist 26 1/2" Hips 35".
Well, I'm no size 14 anymore! Also, in some of the patterns calling
for worsted weight yarn, the needle called for is 3 or 4. The gauge is
6 st to 1" stockinette. That sounds more like a #7 needle to me. Have
needle sizes changed too?

Hesira

Oh, I know how the sizes have changed, and they've changed again not all
that long ago....
A junior size 3 or 5 a few years ago is now a junior 0 or 1!!
That's why I crack up over the weight loss commercial where the model says
she went from a size 10 to a size 6... well, let's be honest there, lady,
you actually lost one size, not two!
I hate when bigger people want to feel little, and the manufacturers
accommodate them by resizing so a size ten can now say, oh I wear an 8.
Or a junior size 7 or 9 can now say, oh I wear a 5 or a 3, and those who
were actually a 5 or 3 now have to hunt for the elusive 0's and 1's.
I'm on a roll, i'm on my soapbox.
snipped gently
Noreen

I know about the sizes - bought a supposed Large Junior tshirt for my 13-yr
DD online. Got it in the
mail and it would have fit my 10-yr DD (who wears a small Juniors)!!
Personnally I buy what fits and
is comfortable (that is when I have money to spend on myself! LOL and not on
more stash!!

Donna in S. Indiana (Spring break week here and I get to have a tooth capped
tomorrow!

In article ,
Leah wrote:

snip
I believe that copyright expires after 30 years, so you are probably
safe on sharing the pictures that are 30 or more years older,
definitely should be safe as long as you don't try and make a profit
from showing them.

As I understand it and I may be wrong:
The old copyright law gave you 28 years but it was changed to
"life of copyright owner plus 70 years of estate" for anything
after the change. If something was published in the USA before
1923 it's under the old rules and out of copyright, but I'm not
sure of any "safe" dates after that. But copyright has been
discussed extensively on many newsgroups and you could probably
find them with Google.

=Tamar

Yes Tamar copy rights are being discussed all over and the more i read
i see a lot of confusion + partly Urban legends + some unrealistic
laws that have no value to the layman or woman who don`t have money to
sue anyway ,,,,
mirjam

In article ,
Leah wrote:

snip
I believe that copyright expires after 30 years, so you are probably
safe on sharing the pictures that are 30 or more years older,
definitely should be safe as long as you don't try and make a profit
from showing them.

As I understand it and I may be wrong:
The old copyright law gave you 28 years but it was changed to
"life of copyright owner plus 70 years of estate" for anything
after the change. If something was published in the USA before
1923 it's under the old rules and out of copyright, but I'm not
sure of any "safe" dates after that. But copyright has been
discussed extensively on many newsgroups and you could probably
find them with Google.

=Tamar