outdoor glass

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Moonraker wrote:

"racing John" wrote in message
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Is it not a good idea to make outdoor stainglass out of copper foil?
Just use zinc or lead?

Copper foil is for girly-boys who make toy boats.

Real men use stretched lead.


Stretching lead is like masturbating.
It might feel good while you're doing it, but it serves no useful
purpose (SNUP).


Then, like everything else, you can't even do that right.

Jack

"Mike Firth" wrote in message
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Wow, an actual answer to the question. I have decided to block brady and
moonraker instead of just skipping their posts as I have in the past.

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Mike Firth
Furnace Glassblowing Website
http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/
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racing John wrote:
Is it not a good idea to make outdoor stainglass out of copper foil?
Just use zinc or lead?

Use whatever you want. Keep in mind that weather can play havoc on
copper foiled work, zinc work or lead work. Copper foiled work can
become dull and end up having a crusty buildup on the solder. Pretty
much the same with lead. I've seen some zinc and copper came panels
that appear to hold up pretty well. The copper came work gets a nice
dark patina after a couple of years. If you keep the work clean and
even keep a good coat of wax on it, it should look good for a long
time.




Mike,
I agree; it's great that neoglassic actually responded with useful
information. I may also follow your example and block brady and moonraker.
Kerry

Ya...but ya gotta admit that at times he's (Brady) about as humorous
as what's his name many years back who was selling all that 10 ton
beveling equipment. I remember the rant that went back and forth on
that and it lasted for months.

Mike Firth wrote:
Wow, an actual answer to the question. I have decided to block brady and
moonraker instead of just skipping their posts as I have in the past.

--
Mike Firth
Furnace Glassblowing Website
http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/
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racing John wrote:
Is it not a good idea to make outdoor stainglass out of copper foil?
Just use zinc or lead?

Use whatever you want. Keep in mind that weather can play havoc on
copper foiled work, zinc work or lead work. Copper foiled work can
become dull and end up having a crusty buildup on the solder. Pretty
much the same with lead. I've seen some zinc and copper came panels
that appear to hold up pretty well. The copper came work gets a nice
dark patina after a couple of years. If you keep the work clean and
even keep a good coat of wax on it, it should look good for a long
time.

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Ya...but ya gotta admit that at times he's (Brady) about as humorous
as what's his name many years back who was selling all that 10 ton
beveling equipment. I remember the rant that went back and forth on
that and it lasted for months.


Heard there is a new artificial reef off Gainesville, FL

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Moonraker wrote:
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Why are you so concerned about what I make or don't make?
I have no concern for what you make - or quite apparently don't make.
You've yet to provide any examples of anything you've done.

Let go of your little pee-pee and try to focus on the question at hand.

Are you telling us that the cheesy giftware on your website is your own
production, or not? A simple "I made it" or "I bought it" will be
sufficent.

Dennis strictly adheres to the 10th step of Bull****er's Anonymous. "
When
I am caught in another lie, promptly change the subject or find someone
else
to blame."

Why should I take your request seriously?

I'll take that as "I bought this grotesque crap."





Talk, talk, talk, talk. That's all you can do. If you even get
serious about actually learning how to do glasswork, we do give
classes. Stained glass, kilnforming, torchworking, casting, blowing.
sandblasting, etc.

Can you teach me how to solder a 12" bead in one second flat? I really want
to know how to anneal a 3" thick casting in less than 3 hours, too. Got any
pointers on how to keep the sun from sucking leaded windows right out of the
house? Maybe I could get some business tips on how to sell products I don't
own and sit on people's money for months at a time? Damn, you've got so
much to offer that I wouldn't know where to begin.



I can even teach you how to become a basement
bandit and make a living selling your work.

OK...I'll sign up as soon as you post the verifiable names of some of your
many success stories.

"Chemosabe" wrote in message I've now heard it all.
Dennis is now an expert on sexuality. Perhaps
you don't know it all...masturbating or having sex (either one) is
good for the prostrate and has shown to help reduce the possibility of
prostrate cancer. Of course, if your doing neither than that's
probably why you're so uptight.

Dennis has his head so far up his ass that his prostate and his adam's apple
are siamese twins.

thanks for the good answers, and you other 2 shake hands lol, after you
wash them that is

"racing John" wrote in message
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Is it not a good idea to make outdoor stainglass out of copper foil?
Just use zinc or lead?



I've done all with no problems over 25 years. If you live long enough to
see it, zinc breaks down and pits and corrodes terribly after 50-60 years or
so. Skinny lead line copperfoil with no support or protection may literally
fall apart. Lead with no support may buckle depending on the design. All
will be fine in your lifetime if done properly. The real reason we use
insulated glass as protection today, is that in the olden days oil was .05
cents a gallon, and we used to open our windows if it got too hot. Now that
it's close to $3 a gallon, we don't like heat loss.

--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Lead lasts longer than zink imo, but it needs a good frame, like wood.