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Well, I guess it happens in every creative field. Sooner or later people
want to organixe to patrol everything. I never join in this and have always been independent. Where I might agree with some of the goals of such a thing, I don;t like losing even partial control of my creative efforts, and what I have built. Some of this is because of the entertainment business wars and some of it involved in crafts, such as beading. I have very different ideas about marketing my things than others. If anyone read my other answer, you saw how people seek to control. And possibly, there is nothing to be done about newbies and inferior quality, except to be obviously better than they are and keep ahead. Educate your patrons and customer, and hold your deepest secrets of how you operate close to the vest. I am involved in communities, on the internet for entertainers. I share alot of stuff, but not my central core. I am well known for helping people, answering newbie questions, but I keep sacred that which makes me different and the marketing strategies that have kept me ahead of the pack for 24 years. I go to conventions for entertainers and I do not divulge my most precious secrets. although, she said laffing, right before competitions happen, I have been known to hand out some of my own props and teach a simple routine to people who don't have anything planned. I lovingly do this because I want to see people grow and learn. I never think about the fact that they could win the judges and the popular public votes. And this is because I am a stand out in my field. I has never been my intent to do so, but maybe I am stacking the deck in my own favor ? I love this stuff and desire to teach and want people to love it as much as me. We have stopped going to one local bead store, with any jewelry on. I usually tuck iu my shirt, and take it ou when we leave. My stuff is different and invariably we cause a fuss with other shoppers, and my intent is to buy supplies, not to usurp their sales or sales strategy. I boldly pronounce that their staff is not all that knowledgeable, their classes not the best, and their products ready to sell and wear, are far below whatever else is out there. They are not presented well and are overpriced student work. I am not just comparing them to mine. Morethan once I have felt sold down the river on some beads I bought. I patronize them infrequently now, preferring to shop ebay and other places where things might be better priced and i do shop the yearly bead and gem shows. I will always buy from single sellers or artists I love and trust. The public doesn;t know or care about warring between artists. They don;t. All they care about is what they like. They are never going to care about rules and regs, so your job is to educate and make them understand, at least about you and what you do. And here'a the biggest rule for that. Lovingly teach them about your own quality and NEVER mention that there are people who are lower than you. Don;t complain about or diss other artists. Don't ! You'll distance them so fast, and they will never come back ! The best bead artists I know, never tell me anything about the others. This is a very common mistake creative people make. On this list or any other, it's okay to gripe and complain, but not to clients. As far as they need to be concerned, you're #1, with a bullet. Honesty and humility are the glue that sticks clients to you. Along with a prettty fine product, you'll win. There is no union or org. that I wouls accept to be telling me how to handle my lbusines .... Rainbow |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:10:16 GMT, Tinkster
wrote: This is a really important point. The vast majority of my customers buy my beads to collect and display, not to turn into jewelry. And not to turn into jewelry to resell for a profit. I didn't realize that I was a bead collector until quite recently when I opened my artist bead container and lovingly fondled the beads, only to close it up again while releasing a sigh of bliss and satisfaction. Now I'll have to figure out how best to display all those wonderful pieces of art glass. With that said, I am also a jewelry maker. Creating a piece incorporating an artist bead whether it's yours or another of my favorite artist's is an act of inspiration, introspection and respect. If I choose to sell my creation, it would be a disservice to myself and to the artist to sell it for no profit IMO. Art takes many forms and there's nothing disrespectful about making money from it. -- Margie http://snurl.com/2u8t http://www.handcraftedjewelry.com/st...asp?userid=261 |
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What I meant about the "not to turn into jewelry to resell for a
profit" comment was that a lot of my lampwork ends up in pieces made as gifts. So let me try again. LOL! Most of my beads end up as standalone collectibles, quite a few end up in designs destined to be special gifts and the smallest number are incorporated into jewelry designs that are sold. Sometimes I'm not very good at expressing myself. :-) Tink On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:47:15 -0600, Margie wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:10:16 GMT, Tinkster wrote: This is a really important point. The vast majority of my customers buy my beads to collect and display, not to turn into jewelry. And not to turn into jewelry to resell for a profit. I didn't realize that I was a bead collector until quite recently when I opened my artist bead container and lovingly fondled the beads, only to close it up again while releasing a sigh of bliss and satisfaction. Now I'll have to figure out how best to display all those wonderful pieces of art glass. With that said, I am also a jewelry maker. Creating a piece incorporating an artist bead whether it's yours or another of my favorite artist's is an act of inspiration, introspection and respect. If I choose to sell my creation, it would be a disservice to myself and to the artist to sell it for no profit IMO. Art takes many forms and there's nothing disrespectful about making money from it. |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:00:35 -0800 (PST),
(rainbow) wrote: Having recently sold much of my precious work at greatly rduced prices, I know how it feels to get less than it's worth. The buyer delighted to get my stuff for way less. ( Not you Margie ... you're an honorable person, and a nice lady ! ). Of the two buyers, one of them will not even answer any emails. I don't even know if she lke what she bought. To her it was cheap stuff to stock her store with. The artistic value of it doesn't matter at all. Thank you, Rainbow! It does take one to know one. I'm happy to know you and Sunny (give her a hug for me) two of my favorite talented and generous of soul women. I wear a lot of your creations and I wear them proud! When I finally make my way to your part of the country, lets get some Chinese food. :=) -- Margie http://snurl.com/2u8t http://www.handcraftedjewelry.com/st...asp?userid=261 |
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:57:28 GMT, Tinkster
wrote: What I meant about the "not to turn into jewelry to resell for a profit" comment was that a lot of my lampwork ends up in pieces made as gifts. So let me try again. LOL! Most of my beads end up as standalone collectibles, quite a few end up in designs destined to be special gifts and the smallest number are incorporated into jewelry designs that are sold. Sometimes I'm not very good at expressing myself. :-) I think you are very good at expressing yourself and you should continue to do so without worry of repercussions. Well in a perfect world, ay? g Believe it or not I do understand where you're coming from and appreciate that there's a part of your soul in the beads you create, that is what art is all about, a vision! Think of it this way, once the bead is sold to a designer, it takes on a new owner and sometimes it whispers to that owner it's desire to have an additional soul to have that vision expanded upon. Once it leaves the hands of the designer it whispers to a person to buy it. It's not the end of the vision it's an appreciation of it. Does this make me a visionary? You and me both! :=) -- Margie http://snurl.com/2u8t http://www.handcraftedjewelry.com/st...asp?userid=261 |
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:57:28 +0000, Tinkster wrote:
Sometimes I'm not very good at expressing myself. :-) Tink Heh,heh.... You haven't got that on your own... I do that *all* the time! LOL Mavis |
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I didn't realize that I was a bead collector until quite recently when
I opened my artist bead container and lovingly fondled the beads, only to close it up again while releasing a sigh of bliss and satisfaction. Now I'll have to figure out how best to display all those wonderful pieces of art glass. How would YOU display them? How DO you display them? I was thinking of putting some of my best ones in a small shadowbox type frame. I think I'll mount them on peyote stitch of single-color, matte 11s covering the entire back surface. ~~ Sooz ------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html |
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Kandice, I have just had a
look at your website and your jewellery and beads are absolutely exquisite... I noticed on your auction page that these bracelets initially started at $9.99 and are now well over $70 -- so it goes to show that the $9.99 is an attraction that brings in the bids... and it works! You should realize that Kandice is selling lampwork bead sets, not jewelry. If she sold it as jewelry, I think it would probably go for a lot more. ~~ Sooz ------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html |
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Welcome, Sharon, to our little bead corner!
~~ Sooz ------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html |
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