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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and cooling down again.
Hello,
I am trying to put different materials in to glass in a oven i know that Copper and glass react equal when heetet to about 1200 degrees and cooling down again should have same properties, so the glass dont brake when the copper inside expand after cooling down. Is there other materials and metals that has the same properties.. What is that process called where two materials is heatet up and cooled down again with same properties? How do i mesure this? Is there some cards telling how this works like in the periodic system? Does silver and glass have the same properties expanding and deexpanding when cooling down again.. is there other materials that does the same ex. gold or other? I will try to post this message her because its a more relevant newsgroup. Thanking you in adwance. Søren M |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and cooling down again.
You'd be better to ask this question on a board that specializes in
kilnforming. http://www.warmglass.com |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and coolingdown again.
Søren M wrote:
Hello, I am trying to put different materials in to glass in a oven i know that Copper and glass react equal when heetet to about 1200 degrees and cooling down again should have same properties, so the glass dont brake when the copper inside expand after cooling down. Is there other materials and metals that has the same properties.. What is that process called where two materials is heatet up and cooled down again with same properties? The rate at which a material expands with heat is called the coefficient of expansion. How do i mesure this? With very expensive measuring equipment. Is there some cards telling how this works like in the periodic system? In an engineering handbook or a good reference on metallurgy. Does silver and glass have the same properties expanding and deexpanding when cooling down again.. No is there other materials that does the same ex. gold or other? Don't know. I will try to post this message her because its a more relevant newsgroup. Thanking you in adwance. Søren M Coefficient of expansion is the term you are looking for. Copper goes well with kiln formed glass. Other metals such as gold, silver and platinum are also used in foil or leaf form. You can get away with small amounts of stainless steel wire. -- Jack Plonked by Thomas bobo1148atxmissiondotcom http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/ |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and cooling down again.
nichrome (heater wire) can be fused in glass
generally hard metals crack the glass, soft ones usually work - copper, silver, gold. Silver commonly discolor to a grey when encased in hot glass. some stainless steel (303) can be worked in glass - see my site on door handles and knobs. http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/mfgl.htm#KNOBS -- Mike Firth Furnace Glassblowing Website http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/ "Søren M" wrote in message ... Hello, I am trying to put different materials in to glass in a oven i know that Copper and glass react equal when heetet to about 1200 degrees and cooling down again should have same properties, so the glass dont brake when the copper inside expand after cooling down. Is there other materials and metals that has the same properties.. What is that process called where two materials is heatet up and cooled down again with same properties? How do i mesure this? Is there some cards telling how this works like in the periodic system? Does silver and glass have the same properties expanding and deexpanding when cooling down again.. is there other materials that does the same ex. gold or other? I will try to post this message her because its a more relevant newsgroup. Thanking you in adwance. Søren M |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and cooling down again.
"nJb" skrev i en meddelelse ... Søren M wrote: Hello, I am trying to put different materials in to glass in a oven i know that Copper and glass react equal when heetet to about 1200 degrees and cooling down again should have same properties, so the glass dont brake when the copper inside expand after cooling down. Is there other materials and metals that has the same properties.. What is that process called where two materials is heatet up and cooled down again with same properties? The rate at which a material expands with heat is called the coefficient of expansion. How do i mesure this? With very expensive measuring equipment. Is there some cards telling how this works like in the periodic system? In an engineering handbook or a good reference on metallurgy. Does silver and glass have the same properties expanding and deexpanding when cooling down again.. No is there other materials that does the same ex. gold or other? Don't know. I will try to post this message her because its a more relevant newsgroup. Thanking you in adwance. Søren M Coefficient of expansion is the term you are looking for. Copper goes well with kiln formed glass. Other metals such as gold, silver and platinum are also used in foil or leaf form. You can get away with small amounts of stainless steel wire. -- Jack Plonked by Thomas bobo1148atxmissiondotcom http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/ Dear Jack, Thank you for your ansver. That the copper goes well with glass does it also meen that i can use rods and not only sheets copperleafs? Best regards Søren M |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and coolingdown again.
Søren M wrote:
"nJb" skrev i en meddelelse ... Søren M wrote: Hello, I am trying to put different materials in to glass in a oven i know that Copper and glass react equal when heetet to about 1200 degrees and cooling down again should have same properties, so the glass dont brake when the copper inside expand after cooling down. Is there other materials and metals that has the same properties.. What is that process called where two materials is heatet up and cooled down again with same properties? The rate at which a material expands with heat is called the coefficient of expansion. How do i mesure this? With very expensive measuring equipment. Is there some cards telling how this works like in the periodic system? In an engineering handbook or a good reference on metallurgy. Does silver and glass have the same properties expanding and deexpanding when cooling down again.. No is there other materials that does the same ex. gold or other? Don't know. I will try to post this message her because its a more relevant newsgroup. Thanking you in adwance. Søren M Coefficient of expansion is the term you are looking for. Copper goes well with kiln formed glass. Other metals such as gold, silver and platinum are also used in foil or leaf form. You can get away with small amounts of stainless steel wire. -- Jack Plonked by Thomas bobo1148atxmissiondotcom http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/ Dear Jack, Thank you for your ansver. That the copper goes well with glass does it also meen that i can use rods and not only sheets copperleafs? Best regards Søren M I don't know. Try it and let us know what happens. -- Jack Plonked by Thomas bobo1148atxmissiondotcom http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/ |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and cooling down again.
silver wire can be fused but it must be .999 fine, NOT sterling. Copper wire
works but you need a long anneal in my experience. nichrome will stick but i have found it to cause cracking when used as exterior hooks or loops. In leaf or fine dust/frit form, most metals will adapt when used in small amounts.mica is also a cool effect. m |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and cooling down again.
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"Michele Blank" wrote: silver wire can be fused but it must be .999 fine, NOT sterling. Copper wire works but you need a long anneal in my experience. nichrome will stick but i have found it to cause cracking when used as exterior hooks or loops. In leaf or fine dust/frit form, most metals will adapt when used in small amounts.mica is also a cool effect. m I made some paperweight bottles with steel wool embedded in them. Apparently the small diameter makes it more forgiving because there has been no cracking. However, it wasn't very attractive either.... Mike Beede |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and cooling down again.
"Mike Beede" wrote in message ... In article , "Michele Blank" wrote: silver wire can be fused but it must be .999 fine, NOT sterling. Copper wire works but you need a long anneal in my experience. nichrome will stick but i have found it to cause cracking when used as exterior hooks or loops. In leaf or fine dust/frit form, most metals will adapt when used in small amounts.mica is also a cool effect. m I made some paperweight bottles with steel wool embedded in them. Apparently the small diameter makes it more forgiving because there has been no cracking. However, it wasn't very attractive either.... Mike Beede Ever think of trying it with bronze wool? I have no idea what it would turn, but no doubt it would change color, and it is copper base metal. |
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Glass together with metal, properties when heatet and cooling down again.
In article ,
"Javahut" wrote: I made some paperweight bottles with steel wool embedded in them. Apparently the small diameter makes it more forgiving because there has been no cracking. However, it wasn't very attractive either.... Mike Beede Ever think of trying it with bronze wool? I have no idea what it would turn, but no doubt it would change color, and it is copper base metal. No. I never heard of bronze wool. I'll have to find some and try it. The steel wool burns spectacularly when it goes into the furnace, but some remains on the surface. Not that that has anything to do with the results, but it's Kinda Fun. Thanks for the suggestion. Mike Beede |
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