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A necklace I am proud of :)
I have taken up making jewellery recently and have done a couple of
pieces, but the one I created last night I am very proud of. It took about 5 hours, mainly because I was doing some joins I hadn't done before and it took me a while to get the hang of it. I would appreciate it if any body would give me an opinion on what they think! Please see it at: http://airraid.mancubus.net/flic/pic...y_necklace.jpg Thank you! Flic PS. I know I have to think of better names for the pieces! |
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A necklace I am proud of :)
Flic wrote:
I have taken up making jewellery recently and have done a couple of pieces, but the one I created last night I am very proud of. It took about 5 hours, mainly because I was doing some joins I hadn't done before and it took me a while to get the hang of it. I would appreciate it if any body would give me an opinion on what they think! Please see it at: http://airraid.mancubus.net/flic/pic...y_necklace.jpg Thank you! Flic PS. I know I have to think of better names for the pieces! I think I'm going to hang myself now, or maybe I'll just quietly slit my wrists. Oh no, I can't do that today, I have to make 60 chocolate covered profiteroles for the school potluck tomorrow night. Oh well, I'll kill myself the day after tomorrow over this "pretty necklace" ****. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:59 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Abrasha
wrote: I think I'm going to hang myself now, or maybe I'll just quietly slit my wrists. Oh no, I can't do that today, I have to make 60 chocolate covered profiteroles for the school potluck tomorrow night. Oh well, I'll kill myself the day after tomorrow over this "pretty necklace" ****. Sheesh. Get off your high horse, will ya? It's better than that, not deserving of such scorn and derision and you should know it. 1. She's not representing herself as a trained fine artist, trained jeweler, or much of anything else like that. She's a hobbyist enjoying putting some things together for her own enjoyment. Starting just from scratch, without other training and no actual intention of doing this as some major career path,does this not count as an enjoyable and valid thing to do? I have a sister inlaw who sews. Pretty well. Her quilts are wonderful. But she's also made ordinary stuff, including for me one year, a bathrobe of micro fleece. ****ty as a bath robe, because the micro fleece won't absorb water to dry you off after the shower. But instead, it's a very warm house coat for those chilly evenings. Powder blue may not be my best color, but I like the thing, and it's maker did it with the best of intentions. So I don't kill myself over the lack of a major fashion label in this bathrobe of mine. And you shouldn't kill yourself because some eager beginner produces a reasonably basic but decently enough made wire wrap and bead necklace. yeah, it's not great art. But I'm sure she likes the look when she wears it, and I'm sure her friends agree. I've seen stuffI'd consider a whole heck of a lot worse get actually sold commercially. 2. it's a darn sight better than "paint by numbers" level stuff or a kitbuilt from instructions. It may not be earth shaking, art world turning, revolutionary design, but at least she's not just following some printed instructions found somewhere. or at least I don't think she is, or at least, not totally... or I dunno... Still it's a lot better than some I've seen. 3. it's usable, and though not fine art, as decorative as any of the commercially made similar costume pieces with which many ordinary people are quite happy to decorate themselves. it's a lot more decorative and useful than the kitschy beaded teddy bears someone else posted. Those, arguably, arenot even jewelry. This most certainly is. 4. The posting links to a plain jpeg image on an otherwise plain page, just as I've repeatedly asked posters to do. it does not link to some commercialor semi commercial page on a yahoo group or something. Surely this following of the group rules should be worth at least *Some* brownie points... And remember, nothing in the group's charter or history suggests it's only for seasonedpros. Beginners at any level have always been welcome along with the professionals and anyone in between. And to Flic: Don't pay attention to Abrasha. he often seems to criticize beginners who come along hoping for approval or help but who's skills and training, both technically and aesthetically, don't seem to meet the high standards he sets for himself. Especially when that beginner is working with really basic methods like beads on wire, etc. He's well known on usenet for this attitude, which can be difficult to comprehend for those who actually know him, since in person, he's actually a really nice and generally polite fellow, not to mention atop notch jewelry artist, and one of the finer craftsmen I've ever met. It's kind of a keyboard version of road rage, I think. He'll disagree perhaps, butmy point is, don't let him scare you away or discourage you. Yeah, your necklace won't win great awards as highly original art, but that should surprise nobody, least of all you, given that you're new at this. The bit with double strands or more, or tassels in the middle, etc etc, have all been done by other artists many times, for millennia. But that doesn't mean it doesn't still look nice, because it did millennia ago, and still does now. The color appears good on you, and you've not chosen a combination of colors that clash or something. So I'd overall agree with you that you did a nice job. Now, if I were doing it, I'd probably use actual gemstones, not glass beads. And my loops would be smaller and neater, and soldered shut or something, or I'dcome up with some sort of much less visible joint or unusual mechanism design for the linkages. And of course, when done, there would be a few more zeros in the price. So it goes. There are many such technical and design possibilities, many of which are within your capabilities even with limited tools and equipment. But no matter. You've got time. Keep experimenting, one step at a time. And don't let the bad mouthed folks get you down. Get some good books on jewelry making and metal work. You can get some good ideas for some more complex constructions that won't be so similar to everything other peoplehave done. At the beginning, it's OK to mostly learn how to make your own versions of things others have done. But as quickly as you can, try to work out your own methods, so you're not just copying other peoples ideas you've seen. (I'm not saying you did this here, at least not intentionally. Just saying you should make an effort NOT to just do one yourself when you see something you like from someone else.) Peter Rowe who's indubitably stepping in something squishy with this post. No matter. With the rain we've had here in Seattle since Christmas, soft squishy ground seems the norm. And this time of year is slow enough I'vegot the time for some good entertaining yet silly discussions. And to all. remember, personal attacks and flame wars are not allowed. attacking ideas, or jewelry, is fine. |
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Peter W.. Rowe, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:59 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Abrasha wrote: [[long quote of mostly my post, trimmed for clarity... PWR]] And to all. remember, personal attacks and flame wars are not allowed. attacking ideas, or jewelry, is fine. I give him credit for not pimping his website that time. Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
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A necklace I am proud of :)
Peter W.. Rowe, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:59 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Abrasha wrote: I think I'm going to hang myself now, or maybe I'll just quietly slit my wrists. Oh no, I can't do that today, I have to make 60 chocolate covered profiteroles for the school potluck tomorrow night. Oh well, I'll kill myself the day after tomorrow over this "pretty necklace" ****. Sheesh. Get off your high horse, will ya? You right, my bad! Will just make small incision in earlobe for a little bloodletting. Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:33:52 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Abrasha
wrote: Peter W.. Rowe, wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:59 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Abrasha wrote: I think I'm going to hang myself now, or maybe I'll just quietly slit my wrists. Oh no, I can't do that today, I have to make 60 chocolate covered profiteroles for the school potluck tomorrow night. Oh well, I'll kill myself the day after tomorrow over this "pretty necklace" ****. Sheesh. Get off your high horse, will ya? You right, my bad! Will just make small incision in earlobe for a little bloodletting. Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com No doubt this will inspire a new earring design... :-) Peter |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:33:44 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Carl 1 Lucky Texan
wrote: Peter W.. Rowe, wrote: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:59 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Abrasha wrote: [[long quote of mostly my post, trimmed for clarity... PWR]] And to all. remember, personal attacks and flame wars are not allowed. attacking ideas, or jewelry, is fine. I give him credit for not pimping his website that time. Carl OK, but do remember that what Abrasha does, including his site's URL in avery short sig file at the end of on topic postings, or using his site to hosta picture of something illustrative of a point being made in his posting, has always been totally acceptable in any case. Peter |
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A necklace I am proud of :)
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:35:01 GMT, "Flic" wrote:
I have taken up making jewellery recently and have done a couple of pieces, but the one I created last night I am very proud of. It took about 5 hours, mainly because I was doing some joins I hadn't done before and it took me a while to get the hang of it. I would appreciate it if any body would give me an opinion on what they think! Please see it at: http://airraid.mancubus.net/flic/pic...y_necklace.jpg It's very pretty, but you'd get better response on rec.crafts.beads. -- Marilee J. Layman http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjlayman |
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A necklace I am proud of :)
"Marilee J. Layman" wrote in message ... It's very pretty, but you'd get better response on rec.crafts.beads. -- Marilee J. Layman http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjlayman I thought that it was pretty too, and that Flic was justified in being pleased with it. I hope that she will be even more pleased with her next piece. Would it have been more acceptable to this group if it had been made of precious metal and natural gemstone beads? What determines if an item is jewellery or not? It is very easy to be snobbish about other peoples efforts, but perhaps Marilee J. Layman was commenting on other readers reactions. Regards Ben Smith |
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:16:22 GMT, "Ben Smith"
wrote: "Marilee J. Layman" wrote in message .. . It's very pretty, but you'd get better response on rec.crafts.beads. I thought that it was pretty too, and that Flic was justified in being pleased with it. I hope that she will be even more pleased with her next piece. Would it have been more acceptable to this group if it had been made of precious metal and natural gemstone beads? What determines if an item is jewellery or not? It is very easy to be snobbish about other peoples efforts, but perhaps Marilee J. Layman was commenting on other readers reactions. shrug I'm primarily a beadweaver these days, but I read this newsgroup because I used to be an engineer and I'm interested in techniques, even though the doctor will never let me do that kind of thing again. -- Marilee J. Layman http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjlayman |
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