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Old January 22nd 08, 12:10 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.

Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do
that too!)
Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2

WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
purl, or after the slip?

then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end last
rep p2.

Here comes the tiny cable
Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second?
then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.

Row 10: repeat Row 2.

It's a really pretty pattern called Celtic Tradition by Joyce Englund,
who, OF COURSE doesn't have a website for idiot questions like mine.

Thanks, I hope!!!
Sue

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Old January 22nd 08, 05:44 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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On Jan 22, 1:10*am, (sueimpe)
wrote:
I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.

Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do
that too!)
Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2

WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
purl, or after the slip?

* *then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end last
rep p2.

Here comes the tiny cable
Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second? *
* *then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.

Row 10: repeat Row 2.

It's a really pretty pattern called Celtic Tradition by Joyce Englund,
who, OF COURSE doesn't have a website for idiot questions like mine.

Thanks, I hope!!!
Sue

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My first puzzelement when nreading this pattern is why have a sl[ip]
st on both sides ? rows 6 & 8 as well as 7 ,,
Are the cables on both sides or only as the conventional Purl Back
ground ??? `bringing back = mooving the thread to back or front of
knitting depends on the purl or knit it`s needed for , but doing it
before or after the Slipped st depends on the pattern ? Where is the
Slipped st in row 8 needed ? slip 2 before k2 might be used to throw
the slipped one over the 2 [either as 2 singles or sometines as 2 knit
together to decrease st ,
How do you knit the third st? hold the 1st and 2nd with your fingers
and push needle into third knit AND DON~T PULL the former st off the
left needle , leave it there and knit the other 2 as instructed , Not
pulling the former st off the left needle until you knitted all 3
mirjam
ps it might help if you leave your knitting aside for some minutes and
make yourself a little sample with all kinds of cables ,,,, to
practice ,,,,,,a little ,,,
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Old January 22nd 08, 06:00 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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On Jan 22, 6:44*am, wrote:
On Jan 22, 1:10*am, (sueimpe)
wrote:





I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.


Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do
that too!)
Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2


WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
purl, or after the slip?


* *then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end last
rep p2.


Here comes the tiny cable
Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second? *
* *then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.


Row 10: repeat Row 2.


It's a really pretty pattern called Celtic Tradition by Joyce Englund,
who, OF COURSE doesn't have a website for idiot questions like mine.


Thanks, I hope!!!
Sue


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My first puzzelement when nreading this pattern is why have a sl[ip]
st on *both sides ? rows *6 & 8 as well as 7 ,,
Are the cables on both sides or only as the conventional Purl Back
ground ??? *`bringing back = mooving the thread to back or front of
knitting depends on the purl or knit it`s needed for , but doing it
before or after the Slipped st depends on the pattern ? Where is the
Slipped st in row 8 needed ? *slip 2 before k2 might be used to throw
the slipped one over the 2 [either as 2 singles or sometines as 2 knit
together to decrease st ,
How do you knit the third st? hold the 1st and 2nd with your fingers
and push needle into third knit AND DON~T PULL the former st off the
left needle , leave it there and knit the other 2 as instructed , Not
pulling the former st off the left needle until you knitted all 3
mirjam
ps it might help if you leave your knitting aside for some minutes and
make yourself a little sample with all kinds of cables ,,,, to
practice ,,,,,,a little ,,,- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


PS interwave Knits of Fall 2007 has a whole chapter about Exp[loring
Cables ,,,
mirjam
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Old January 22nd 08, 06:26 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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In article ,
wrote:
On Jan 22, 6:44*am, wrote:
(sueimpe) wrote:

I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.


Not so simple, with the tiny cable.

Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do
that too!)
Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2


WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
purl, or after the slip?


What mirjam said: swatch and decide what you like the looks of.
Personally, I'd bring the yarn back for the knit before the slip.

**then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end last
rep p2.


Here comes the tiny cable
Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second? *
* *then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.


Mirjam told you how.
Here's why:
What you're doing is taking a group of four stitches to make a two-stitch cable
that is stretched across two ordinary stitches.

You're crossing stitch 1 and stitch 4, with
stitches 2 and 3 done normally in the middle.

Think of it as using two cable needles:
Use a cable needle to take stitch 1 off and hold it in front.
Then use a cable needle to take stitches 2 and 3 (in their ordinary order)
off and hold it to the back.
Then knit stitch 4.
Then knit stitches 2 and 3 off the cable needle in back.
Then knit stitch 1 off the cable needle in front.

Knitting stitch 4 with the other two still on the needle is a little fiddly
but probably easier and faster than handling two cable needles at once.

=Tamar

Row 10: repeat Row 2.


My first puzzelement when reading this pattern is why have a sl[ip]
st on *both sides ? rows *6 & 8 as well as 7
Are the cables on both sides or only as the conventional Purl Back
ground ??? *`bringing back = moving the thread to back or front of
knitting depends on the purl or knit it`s needed for , but doing it
before or after the Slipped st depends on the pattern ? Where is the
Slipped st in row 8 needed ? *slip 2 before k2 might be used to throw
the slipped one over the 2 [either as 2 singles or sometines as 2 knit
together to decrease st ,


How do you knit the third st? hold the 1st and 2nd with your fingers
and push needle into third knit AND DON~T PULL the former st off the
left needle , leave it there and knit the other 2 as instructed , Not
pulling the former st off the left needle until you knitted all 3


mirjam
ps it might help if you leave your knitting aside for some minutes and
make yourself a little sample with all kinds of cables ,,,, to
practice ,,,,,,a little ,,,


PS interwave Knits of Fall 2007 has a whole chapter about Exp[loring
Cables ,,,
mirjam



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Old January 22nd 08, 07:47 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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On Jan 22, 7:26*am, (Richard Eney) wrote:
In article ,

wrote:
On Jan 22, 6:44*am, wrote:
(sueimpe) wrote:


I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.


Not so simple, with the tiny cable.

Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do
that too!)
Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2


WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
purl, or after the slip?


What mirjam said: swatch and decide what you like the looks of.
Personally, I'd bring the yarn back for the knit before the slip.

**then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end last
rep p2.


Here comes the tiny cable
Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second? *
* *then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.


Mirjam told you how.
Here's why:
What you're doing is taking a group of four stitches to make a two-stitch cable
that is stretched across two ordinary stitches.

You're crossing stitch 1 and stitch 4, with
stitches 2 and 3 done normally in the middle.

Think of it as using two cable needles:
Use a cable needle to take stitch 1 off and hold it in front.
Then use a cable needle to take stitches 2 and 3 (in their ordinary order)
off and hold it to the back.
Then knit stitch 4.
Then knit stitches 2 and 3 off the cable needle in back.
Then knit stitch 1 off the cable needle in front.

Knitting stitch 4 with the other two still on the needle is a little fiddly
but probably easier and faster than handling two cable needles at once.

=Tamar



Row 10: repeat Row 2.
My first puzzelement when reading this pattern is why have a sl[ip]
st on *both sides ? rows *6 & 8 as well as 7
Are the cables on both sides or only as the conventional Purl Back
ground ??? *`bringing back = moving the thread to back or front of
knitting depends on the purl or knit it`s needed for , but doing it
before or after the Slipped st depends on the pattern ? Where is the
Slipped st in row 8 needed ? *slip 2 before k2 might be used to throw
the slipped one over the 2 [either as 2 singles or sometines as 2 knit
together to decrease st ,
How do you knit the third st? hold the 1st and 2nd with your fingers
and push needle into third knit AND DON~T PULL the former st off the
left needle , leave it there and knit the other 2 as instructed , Not
pulling the former st off the left needle until you knitted all 3
mirjam
ps it might help if you leave your knitting aside for some minutes and
make yourself a little sample with all kinds of cables ,,,, to
practice ,,,,,,a little ,,,


PS interwave Knits of *Fall 2007 has a whole chapter about *Exp[loring
Cables ,,,
mirjam- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Professor Knitcus Tamar gave you Loads of Expert , Gold worthy
advice ,,,
Pleae take some time off and swatch , it will save you hours of
Sorrow .
EVen we experts [ see Argh posts] do make mistakes ,,,,
Starts a swatch from this wool , and than with each new knitted items
make a swatch ,,, keep them !!!!! after some times you will have a
wonderful collection of swatches which you could make into a very
personal `memory` afghan or vest ,, of your own knitted
articles ,,,,,
mirjajm
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Old January 23rd 08, 06:43 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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On Jan 22, 12:53*pm, Leah wrote:
On 21 Jan 2008 23:10:19 GMT,

(sueimpe) wrote:
WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
purl, or after the slip?


Most instructions will tell you to slip knitwise or purlwise. *I found
it's often hidden in the basic description and not repeated in the
actual shorthand of the pattern as "special instructions" or "notes".
If you are slipping purlwise, the yarn comes to the front before you
slip and goes back immediately after if the next st is a K. *

HTH. *

Leah *


With Three Biblical Ladies helping you ,, i hope you will be happilly
and easily find the courage to finnish it !!!
mirjam
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Old January 26th 08, 06:40 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer)
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On 21 Jan 2008 23:10:19 GMT,
(sueimpe) wrote:

I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.

Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do
that too!)
Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2

WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
purl, or after the slip?


It depends on which is the right side. You want the yarn on the wrong
side, behind the slipped stitch on the right side. If row 7 is a
right-side row, take it to the back after the purl and before the
slip. If it's a wrong-side row, take it to the back after the slip
and before the knit.

Or do it however you think it looks best, if it's a reversible afghan
and both sides are sort of the right side. Just do it the way every
time. Consistancy makes things look right.

Mary "Although no one but you may ever notice"
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Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
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