OFF TOPIC - the ladybug "lost" her mittens

Our high school neighbor boy walked down the middle of the street
yesterday afternoon in a long-sleeved t-shirt with a short-sleeved
t-shirt on top of that, and jeans. Wind chill was -22 and actual temp
was 0. How smart is that?

In our area of NE Indiana, when schools close due to weather-related
situations, it doesn't seem to hamper them getting to the closest mall.

Jayne

On 2/6/07 8:48 PM, in article
, "
wrote:

Our high school neighbor boy walked down the middle of the street
yesterday afternoon in a long-sleeved t-shirt with a short-sleeved
t-shirt on top of that, and jeans. Wind chill was -22 and actual temp
was 0. How smart is that?

In our area of NE Indiana, when schools close due to weather-related
situations, it doesn't seem to hamper them getting to the closest mall.

Jayne


Hey - I saw teens (males) with shorts, a t shirt and NO COAT when I picked
up DS....

C

On 2/6/07 9:05 PM, "Cheryl Isaak" wrote:

On 2/6/07 8:48 PM, in article
, "
wrote:

Our high school neighbor boy walked down the middle of the street
yesterday afternoon in a long-sleeved t-shirt with a short-sleeved
t-shirt on top of that, and jeans. Wind chill was -22 and actual temp
was 0. How smart is that?

In our area of NE Indiana, when schools close due to weather-related
situations, it doesn't seem to hamper them getting to the closest mall.

Jayne


Hey - I saw teens (males) with shorts, a t shirt and NO COAT when I picked
up DS....

C

This would be because they and their parents are idiots, and don't have the
strength to actually point out the kids stupidity is not cool. But, a
little frostbite, etc and maybe they'll learn. Or not.

ellice

lucretia borgia ) writes:
(snip)
Now if they are reincarnated in a few hundred years time
this scene will have us going on about how they wear too much clothing
in these hot winters lol

Careful!!!!! If you are implying what I think you are implying
(anthropogenic global warming), them's fighting words!!!! LOL.

On 2/6/07 9:29 PM, in article , "ellice"
wrote:

On 2/6/07 9:05 PM, "Cheryl Isaak" wrote:

On 2/6/07 8:48 PM, in article
, "
wrote:

Our high school neighbor boy walked down the middle of the street
yesterday afternoon in a long-sleeved t-shirt with a short-sleeved
t-shirt on top of that, and jeans. Wind chill was -22 and actual temp
was 0. How smart is that?

In our area of NE Indiana, when schools close due to weather-related
situations, it doesn't seem to hamper them getting to the closest mall.

Jayne


Hey - I saw teens (males) with shorts, a t shirt and NO COAT when I picked
up DS....

C

This would be because they and their parents are idiots, and don't have the
strength to actually point out the kids stupidity is not cool. But, a
little frostbite, etc and maybe they'll learn. Or not.

ellice

Actually, I don't put any blame on the parents. Any more that is! It is
blasted cold and the teen age idiots don't seem to feel it. I have a daily
war to put on a coat, close it up and put on a hat. Add, I think he zips up
just before I can see him walking home. And I know I'm not the only one
waging the war. Some kid last week, after practice and shower, ran out to
his cold car in t-shirt and shorts, jacket and jeans over his shoulder,
still dripping. He had gym first period and didn't want have to change at
the field house.

C

C

On Feb 6, 9:29 pm, ellice wrote:
On 2/6/07 9:05 PM, "Cheryl Isaak" wrote:



On 2/6/07 8:48 PM, in article
, "
wrote:

Our high school neighbor boy walked down the middle of the street
yesterday afternoon in a long-sleeved t-shirt with a short-sleeved
t-shirt on top of that, and jeans. Wind chill was -22 and actual temp
was 0. How smart is that?

In our area of NE Indiana, when schools close due to weather-related
situations, it doesn't seem to hamper them getting to the closest mall.

Jayne

Hey - I saw teens (males) with shorts, a t shirt and NO COAT when I picked
up DS....

C

This would be because they and their parents are idiots, and don't have the
strength to actually point out the kids stupidity is not cool. But, a
little frostbite, etc and maybe they'll learn. Or not.

ellice


As a parent of one of those idiots I can talk about dressing for the
weather until I'm blue in the face. Not going to change his behavior.
A case of frostbite might. LOL Hasn't happened yet.

Meanwhile on Sunday he hung around the house in his winter coat
claiming he was cold. Oh the contrariness of it all...

Donna in Virginia

"lucretia borgia" wrote in message
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ellice ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote:
and entertained us with
On 2/6/07 9:05 PM, "Cheryl Isaak" wrote:

On 2/6/07 8:48 PM, in article
, "
wrote:

Our high school neighbor boy walked down the middle of the street
yesterday afternoon in a long-sleeved t-shirt with a short-sleeved
t-shirt on top of that, and jeans. Wind chill was -22 and actual temp
was 0. How smart is that?

In our area of NE Indiana, when schools close due to weather-related
situations, it doesn't seem to hamper them getting to the closest mall.

Jayne


Hey - I saw teens (males) with shorts, a t shirt and NO COAT when I
picked
up DS....

C

This would be because they and their parents are idiots, and don't have
the
strength to actually point out the kids stupidity is not cool. But, a
little frostbite, etc and maybe they'll learn. Or not.

ellice

Do you have kids Ellice ? Were you a teen yourself ? This is a
battle that it pays not to bring on, there are other far more
important battles that must be won.


I want to add that I was one of the kids who rarely closed my coat, or wore
a hat or scarf in winter and never seemed to be cold. I can still remember
my mother yelling at the top of her lungs for me to button up or I was going
to catch pneumonia.

I'm past 70 now and my first case of pneumonia was just a couple of years
ago after I moved to Florida so it seems to me that kids just don't react to
the cold the way adults do.

I guess I should add that since I live here, anything below 65 f feels like
frost to me now.

Lucille

On 2/7/07 8:53 AM, "Donna" wrote:

On Feb 6, 9:29 pm, ellice wrote:
On 2/6/07 9:05 PM, "Cheryl Isaak" wrote:



On 2/6/07 8:48 PM, in article
, "
wrote:

Our high school neighbor boy walked down the middle of the street
yesterday afternoon in a long-sleeved t-shirt with a short-sleeved
t-shirt on top of that, and jeans. Wind chill was -22 and actual temp
was 0. How smart is that?

In our area of NE Indiana, when schools close due to weather-related
situations, it doesn't seem to hamper them getting to the closest mall.

Jayne

Hey - I saw teens (males) with shorts, a t shirt and NO COAT when I picked
up DS....

C

This would be because they and their parents are idiots, and don't have the
strength to actually point out the kids stupidity is not cool. But, a
little frostbite, etc and maybe they'll learn. Or not.

ellice


As a parent of one of those idiots I can talk about dressing for the
weather until I'm blue in the face. Not going to change his behavior.
A case of frostbite might. LOL Hasn't happened yet.

I understand - and with teenagers, indeed either some body malfunction or
frostbite would help. I'm sure that we all know part of this is some weird
"being cool" kind of thing. OTOH, where I have issues with the parents is
with young kids. Because presumably you still have some control of a 6-10
year old. And I see plenty of them in shorts and shower shoes - in a rink
that is 50 degrees, and going out into the 30 degree weather. So, it seems
to me - maybe I'm being harsh - that if some young kid that doesn't drive
themselves to hockey, soccer, band, whatever - can't be bothered to at least
put on some kind of appropriate shoe, and a jacket - not necessarily zipped
- then the parent ought to be able to do something about that - as in not
take them to said even until, or something.
Even on Monday I was at the Sheriff's office for some work thing, and while
waiting in the reception area watched a young mother - say late 20s, 30ish
come in - dressed in jeans, boots, sweater, scarf, jacket (open) - and with
her a daughter - about age 10 . Skinny kid, cute, in thin cotton knit
capris, a tee-shirt, an open light weight shirt over the tee, little short
thing footie socks (like don't show under sneakers) and my favorite - a pair
of wedgie, slide-on mule sandals at least 5 sizes too big (I think mom's).
Oh, this is the day that was the coldest day in the whole winter - temps in
the teens, and windchill down to 0 and below. The kid almost fell on her
face just in the shoes trying to run thru the 20-30 mph winds. The other
people in the waiting room just stared - then after the mom & daughter left,
another woman started making comments. I'm sorry - that's just not right.
The kid was a skinny thing, and her wrists, calves were sticking out, and
even her lips looked blue. I understand that I don't have kids - and
honestly, there are lots of things that parents do or don't that I certainly
wouldn't comment on. But not being able to insist that a kid at least put
on shoes and throw a jacket on, bring their gloves or whatever is
appropriate with them seems just weak. And around here, in some of these
really affluent areas, the parents are just sooooo busy and important - so
we see all the time - well dressed parents, with 1,2 kids along - in some
little completely inappropriate outfit - and they're not just heading home -
nope - they're going out to dinner. So, I don't buy the "it's not worth
fighting we're just going home they'll only be outside for X minutes"
excuse.

I do actually have this argument with DH a lot - who stays overheated after
hockey, reffin - for some time. I finally won the you're not going in your
boat-shoes with no socks argument. I don't/can't make him zip up, but at
least he'll throw on a jacket, and have a hat, gloves with him (least likely
to use the gloves). OTOH, when I'm scorekeeping - he wants me to wear a hat
'cause it's so cold in some of the rinks.

Meanwhile on Sunday he hung around the house in his winter coat
claiming he was cold. Oh the contrariness of it all...

That is pretty funny. For us, since my body temp is low always - and at
night the heat is on about 60, 61 - I can't sleep if it gets warm . DH -
who is a radiator - wanted me to have it warmer when the temp was so cold -
somehow I couldn't get that rational. So, told him no, and he was fine
anyhow - and he's the one that never wants to wear a real jacket, etc.

ellice

I am always fighting this battle too and it seems, with both kids, to
have reared its head in middle school. The main reason (or so they
say)? They have to share these 12" wide lockers that aren't big
enough for one coat, much less two. I insist on a sweatshirt in the
backpack at the very least.

Linda

On 2/7/07 9:03 AM, "lucretia borgia" wrote:

ellice ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote:
and entertained us with
On 2/6/07 9:05 PM, "Cheryl Isaak" wrote:

On 2/6/07 8:48 PM, in article
, "
wrote:

Our high school neighbor boy walked down the middle of the street
yesterday afternoon in a long-sleeved t-shirt with a short-sleeved
t-shirt on top of that, and jeans. Wind chill was -22 and actual temp
was 0. How smart is that?

In our area of NE Indiana, when schools close due to weather-related
situations, it doesn't seem to hamper them getting to the closest mall.

Jayne


Hey - I saw teens (males) with shorts, a t shirt and NO COAT when I picked
up DS....

C

This would be because they and their parents are idiots, and don't have the
strength to actually point out the kids stupidity is not cool. But, a
little frostbite, etc and maybe they'll learn. Or not.

ellice

Do you have kids Ellice ? Were you a teen yourself ? This is a
battle that it pays not to bring on, there are other far more
important battles that must be won.

No, yup, and I do understand with teens. But, honestly - it's the young
kids that throw me. Teens - heck, we were all idiots. But, my parents had
some sort of control about general welfare issues. And I was a really
independent kid. I understand the battle thing - so, I guess my point
becomes that the kids do whatever because they think it's "cool" and of
course teens are invulnerable - and the parents can't impress upon them any
kind of reasonableness. Heck - at least if the kid takes a coat along it's
something - rather than letting them out of the house with nothing.

One of our best friends has an only child, 15 1/2. Good kid. Pretty
spoiled - but a good kid - very polite to all of us - but you should hear
him calling mom - "when are you comeing home?" - he treats her like she's
the kid. OTOH - the jacket thing - he'll run out refusing to bring a jacket
- and then call her to come get him from a block away at his friends because
it's too cold. And she'll do it. Same as all these goofy kids - so why
not just once let the kid be cold then see what happens? Or if you're
worried say - not going til you....fill in the blank.

ellice